SHBG doesn’t really matter.

[JC33]

After my third time watching this video I’m starting to get a much better understanding on the topic. A lot of people are way too worried about nuking their SHBG for “more gains” when this is a pretty dumb approach.

The biggest takeaway is that there’s a big difference between “free testosterone” and “bioavailable testosterone”. Just because testosterone is bound to SHBG it doesn’t mean it’s “useless” in fact a guy with an SHBG of 30 will grow more muscle than the guy with an SHBG of 10. Testosterone can and will become unbound from SHBG in the muscle cell nucleus and will have no issue binding to the AR. I have been confused about this for a long time, and there’s a lot of misconceptions about the true purpose of SHBG, it’s not a bad thing at all. It’s taking the hormones to where they need to go.

 

[JC33]

This is the video I meant to link. Aparantly if I have a video on my tv and on my phone it links the video from the tv even though I shared the link from my phone? Pretty stupid.

 

[Battousai]

I don't really pay attention to it to be honest, I take what I like and if taking a lot of DHT's bombs it so be it.

Also I haven't watched the video you posted yet. But Todd Lee cracks me up sometimes. I asked him about mega dosing proviron and Masteron together one time on his Q and A, and he said you might crash your SHBG. Then I asked what does SHBG do and what are the symptoms of low SHBG, and he literally said, "I don't know, last time I did bloods mine was 2." I just facepalmed cause he literally contradicted what he just told me from the previous question. Sometimes I just think he gets annoyed by tedious questions and so his fail safe is "I don't know, on to the next topic."

 

[JC33]

I don't really pay attention to it to be honest, I take what I like and if taking a lot of DHT's bombs it so be it.

Also I haven't watched the video you posted yet. But Todd Lee cracks me up sometimes. I asked him about mega dosing proviron and Masteron together one time on his Q and A, and he said you might crash your SHBG. Then I asked what does SHBG do and what are the symptoms of low SHBG, and he literally said, "I don't know, last time I did bloods mine was 2." I just facepalmed cause he literally contradicted what he just told me from the previous question. Sometimes I just think he gets annoyed by tedious questions and so his fail safe is "I don't know, on to the next topic."

I love when he goes off on these tangents about dungeons and dragons when he’s referencing something stupid people do with anabolics. He’s like obviously I have to be the dungeon master because normal people are too stupid to make common sense decisions something about a necromancer etc..

The Q and As are pretty fun. I asked Kurt to clarify his statement on Masteron not being anabolic and growing no tissue and he retracted his statement I think @samgraves82 witnessed this in real time haha

 

[Battousai]

I love when he goes off on these tangents about dungeons and dragons when he’s referencing something stupid people do with anabolics. He’s like obviously I have to be the dungeon master because normal people are too stupid to make common sense decisions something about a necromancer etc..

The Q and As are pretty fun. I asked Kurt to clarify his statement on Masteron not being anabolic and growing no tissue and he retracted his statement I think @samgraves82 witnessed this in real time haha

His analogies are epic, on the same level as Alex Jones. I still can't get over when talked about the "cool people" who want to brag about doing primo and serostim, and that you could instead be investing that money into yourself and have a sports car and condo, but instead you have a beat up truck and a trailer, and then your date is like, "ew I'm not going in there" and you'll be like, "babe, you don't understand, I have like, 10k worth of gear pumping through veins" and then she'll be like, "you do steroids, isn't that cheating?"

 

[samgraves82]

I love when he goes off on these tangents about dungeons and dragons when he’s referencing something stupid people do with anabolics. He’s like obviously I have to be the dungeon master because normal people are too stupid to make common sense decisions something about a necromancer etc..

The Q and As are pretty fun. I asked Kurt to clarify his statement on Masteron not being anabolic and growing no tissue and he retracted his statement I think @samgraves82 witnessed this in real time haha

I believe ur right. I used to like him but he just annoys me now. Even when he's right I don't wanna believe him just because I don't like him. Also, when it comes to training etc, I saw him at the Arnold and he's not impressive at all. Guess that rir stuff isn't working as well as he thinks

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[Battousai]

I believe ur right. I used to like him but he just annoys me now. Even when he's right I don't wanna believe him just because I don't like him. Also, when it comes to training etc, I saw him at the Arnold and he's not impressive at all. Guess that rir stuff isn't working as well as he thinks

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Kurt and Tod are on bad terms now

 

[JC33]

His analogies are epic, on the same level as Alex Jones. I still can't get over when talked about the "cool people" who want to brag about doing primo and serostim, and that you could instead be investing that money into yourself and have a sports car and condo, but instead you have a beat up truck and a trailer, and then your date is like, "ew I'm not going in there" and you'll be like, "babe, you don't understand, I have like, 10k worth of gear pumping through veins" and then she'll be like, "you do steroids, isn't that cheating?"

I’m glad we’re on the same page. He’s literally fucking hilarious.

 

[eazy_]

a guy with an SHBG of 30 will grow more muscle than the guy with an SHBG of 10

I have 7. I need to learn how to raise it?

 

[JC33]

Kurt and Tod are on bad terms now

Oh damn infighting? I’m not completely caught up on all of their content. I’m clearly still dissecting shit that’s 9 months old

 

[Battousai]

Oh damn infighting? I’m not completely caught up on all of their content. I’m clearly still dissecting shit that’s 9 months old

Yeah they haven't had a video together in months. Not sure exactly started it

 

[JC33]

I have 7. I need to learn how to raise it?

That’s super low. If you feel good I wouldn’t worry too much, it’s just harder to keep the anabolic hormones in your system long enough to get to where they need to go to stimulate growth. Cardio, low carb diet and SERMS will raise SHBG. Dht compounds, oral steroids and carbohydrates will lower it.

 

[JC33]

Yeah they haven't had a video together in months. Not sure exactly started it

I’m going to take a wild guess it has something to do with Masteron

 

[samgraves82]

Kurt and Tod are on bad terms now

Yea I noticed Kurt been doin podcasts with other people a lot

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[samgraves82]

I’m going to take a wild guess it has something to do with Masteron

No, shbg

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[Battousai]

I’m going to take a wild guess it has something to do with Masteron

That would make sense why Tod is always nearly having a nervous breakdown trying to convince everyone how awesome Masteron is and how shit Primo is. I agree for the most part on his take Masteron though. I think he bashes Primo too much though, it's not a bad drug, you just have to make sure you're not crashing your e2 with it.

 

[JC33]

That would make sense why Tod is always nearly having a nervous breakdown trying to convince everyone how awesome Masteron is and how shit Primo is. I agree for the most part on his take Masteron though. I think he bashes Primo too much though, it's not a bad drug, you just have to make sure you're not crashing your e2 with it.

Who would have guessed a few guys on a ton of hormones that beleive strongly about something would get into a heated disagreement

But true, I do think he’s correct about mast and incorrect about primo.

 

[nightwing]

I listened to Todd Lee's latest podcast that popped on my spotify tonight on the air bike, was an epic rant on trt users vs professionals, some of the shit he pointed out was great, since I'm neither lol. He finally got across to me WHY he thinks Masteron is better than Primo and if I'm correct, it comes down to how he handles his estrogen management, and considers using another anabolic to do AI for you as wasted work. Big Paul hasn't had him on either, I think it came down to something about his tangents screwing with youtube monetization but who knows.

 

[Battousai]

I listened to Todd Lee's latest podcast that popped on my spotify tonight on the air bike, was an epic rant on trt users vs professionals, some of the shit he pointed out was great, since I'm neither lol. He finally got across to me WHY he thinks Masteron is better than Primo and if I'm correct, it comes down to how he handles his estrogen management, and considers using another anabolic to do AI for you as wasted work. Big Paul hasn't had him on either, I think it came down to something about his tangents screwing with youtube monetization but who knows.

His idea is that if you have to something as an AI then you're using too much test to begin with.

 

[Astro95]

Everyone is learning about gear, gh and keep an open mind and change perspectives as new info comes out. Todd is stuck on just enough test to drive e2 as high as it can be handled without Ai to max igf gains, nuke mast, gh dosed 8,8, 6, 7, 8 and if you use an Ai you’re mentally challenged. I find him pretty obnoxious the way he comes across tbh.

Kurt has been pushing points that contradict Todd’s lately such as no point in driving e2 high for more igf1 gains, or using Ai if you need to, cool with using other compounds aside mast/primo/test oh and he doesn’t push the stupid gh dosing Todd does. I figured maybe something happened between them, if yall know exactly what was it, it’d be funny to know

 

[Jbswole40]

Todd can be funny but he is extremely arrogant and annoying, I like kurt..I never really dove into shbg thing,I thought being lower was better?.. as far as masteron and primo,it's user dependent, I have more hair,prostate, and acne issues with masteron, primo suits me better

 

[chadmack]

IMO all these social media gurus are way more about profit from clicks/likes than they r about knowledge/educating.
& feeding their ego...

 

[Jbswole40]

IMO all these social media gurus are way more about profit from clicks/likes than they r about knowledge/educating.

Yea,,need to find that happy medium

 

[Astro95]

IMO all these social media gurus are way more about profit from clicks/likes than they r about knowledge/educating.

I disagree. Kurt is a AAS knowledge gem and if you look up his YouTube channel, nobody watches him. No rants, no gimmicks, no stupid intro, just AAS discussions with vast knowledge and helpful info.

 

[chadmack]

Yea,,need to find that happy medium

Exactly, just like SHBG, to low is not good to high is not good.
Everything in life is a balancing act.

 

[Jbswole40]

I like big paul,Justin Harris, Kurt and d&s show with dusty & big ron..I rarely listen to shows much anymore, I rather watch some of these shows when they having fun with it..the serious debating becomes bias and single persons opinions which usually just get boring

 

[Omoplata]

Yea,,need to find that happy medium

Like using Anabolicsteroidforuns.com

 

[chadmack]

I disagree. Kurt is a AAS knowledge gem and if you look up his YouTube channel, nobody watches him. No rants, no gimmicks, no stupid intro, just AAS discussions with vast knowledge and helpful info.

Some r definitely better than others.
From my experience most think the opinion is golden.
Just like on forums we all acknowledge Every1 response different to things but then If aren't doing what tom Joe or whoever is doing u r doing it All wrong.
Just my opinion from my experience & observation.

 

[chadmack]

I disagree. Kurt is a AAS knowledge gem and if you look up his YouTube channel, nobody watches him. No rants, no gimmicks, no stupid intro, just AAS discussions with vast knowledge and helpful info.

I should have said most of or in general, not all.
Kind of a miss type with all.

 

[JC33]

I disagree. Kurt is a AAS knowledge gem and if you look up his YouTube channel, nobody watches him. No rants, no gimmicks, no stupid intro, just AAS discussions with vast knowledge and helpful info.

I do really like both Kurt and Todd. I think they both have some very solid info but Todd’s definitely wrong about some things specifically like you mentioned the maxing out of estrogen to get the igf-1 conversion but the problem is high estrogen dumps a ton of Igf binding protein-1 rendering the Igf useless a point Kurt was able to explain in depth. It’s like SHBG for Igf but instead of releasing it, it destroys it. In range estrogen will release more Igf binding protein-3 which will take it to all the places we want it.

Todd’s ducking hillarious, Kurt’s more accurate. I think there’s decent take aways from both of them I’ve been leaning more towards Kurt lately.