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When on TRT/TRT+ how often (if ever) do you guys take a full week off lifting and just do cardio or nothing at all? I usually lift 4-7 days a week and feel like my joints and mental fatigue may benefit from a week off. Thoughts?
Right now I’m not prepping for anything other than getting laid
 
Couldn’t tell you the last time I did this. Personally maybe a deload week but that’s a rarity and something I feel most people don’t need unless your training balls tk the wall and you start to see other things fall apart
 
When on TRT/TRT+ how often (if ever) do you guys take a full week off lifting and just do cardio or nothing at all? I usually lift 4-7 days a week and feel like my joints and mental fatigue may benefit from a week off. Thoughts?
Over the years I find it very rare people need a FULL week off. A deload of less weights/reps/intensity, a combo of those or just a couple of days off is fine for most people. Even the studies on it show a full off is often negative in terms of the options above for bodybuilding.

The only outlier for this would be for competitive powerlifters, which are few and far between here.

Do what works for you.
 
Even the studies on it show a full off is often negative in terms of the options above for bodybuilding.
How so? Every person that I've ever meet that took a few days off always says the same thing, "I was stronger after a rest period." The studies I've read show strength starts to fade at 2-3 weeks, so I'm genuinely interested how taking a short rest for your body to fully recover can be a negative from a physiological standpoint. I can understand how it can have negative psychology impacts though.
 
How so? Every person that I've ever meet that took a few days off always says the same thing, "I was stronger after a rest period." The studies I've read show strength starts to fade at 2-3 weeks, so I'm genuinely interested how taking a short rest for your body to fully recover can be a negative from a physiological standpoint. I can understand how it can have negative psychology impacts though.
Please re-read what I wrote. I said a couple of days off was an option as well as the other things I mentioned which are in general more beneficial in the long run for hypertrophy and for MOST of us bodybuilders strength (not powerlifting where joints much more of an issue). If you need a full week off from physical training your split/training is probably too much. Make a split to where you don't need to do that.

Think about it. How can sitting on your ass for 7 days with little blood flow be better than a few lighter workouts with less sets/intensity/volume which calm the CNS and muscle fatigue. Muscles take 24-72 hours to recover, not 168 hours.

If you need a mental break from the gym that's fine. Some people do. And continue taking a week off of training, if that works for you. These are my opinions.
 
Please re-read what I wrote. I said a couple of days off was an option as well as the other things I mentioned which are in general more beneficial in the long run for hypertrophy and for MOST of us bodybuilders strength (not powerlifting where joints much more of an issue). If you need a full week off from physical training your split/training is probably too much. Make a split to where you don't need to do that.

Think about it. How can sitting on your ass for 7 days with little blood flow be better than a few lighter workouts with less sets/intensity/volume which calm the CNS and muscle fatigue. Muscles take 24-72 hours to recover, not 168 hours.

If you need a mental break from the gym that's fine. Some people do. And continue taking a week off of training, if that works for you. These are my opinions.
I dont need to reread it, my reading comprehension is quite high, but for both of our sakes, I will quote it so we both can reread it. You stated:

A deload of less weights/reps/intensity, a combo of those or just a couple of days off is fine for most people. Even the studies on it show a full off is often negative in terms of the options above for bodybuilding.

You said that studies showed it was "often negative" and I asked "How so?" I don't need to "think about it." I want to read the studies that you mentioned. I was genuinely curious of the studied effects of having a period of non-training. Were they referring to atrophy, laziness, etc? Hell, I dont know, which is why I asked. I do apologize if my respectful inquiry was portrayed as insulting, but it was a genuine question...it wasnt a personal challenge.
 
In the last few decades i have only taken time off for a vacation. worst case scenario i switch to more isolation movements, higher reps and don't worry about going to failure. I find being active helps things heal better then doing nothing.
 
I dont need to reread it, my reading comprehension is quite high, but for both of our sakes, I will quote it so we both can reread it. You stated:



You said that studies showed it was "often negative" and I asked "How so?" I don't need to "think about it." I want to read the studies that you mentioned. I was genuinely curious of the studied effects of having a period of non-training. Were they referring to atrophy, laziness, etc? Hell, I dont know, which is why I asked. I do apologize if my respectful inquiry was portrayed as insulting, but it was a genuine question...it wasnt a personal challenge.
If you were offended by something I said, I apologize. Wasn't at all trying to imply anything negative about your reading comprehension or anything else.

I read a lot of literature from guys who have done studies or on top of this subject such as Eric Helms. Eric Trexler, Brad Shoenfeld, Layne Norton, many more along with bodybuilders that I believe are super knowledgeable such as John Jewett to name one. It seems as if a reactive approach (which I outlined above) compared to a full week of rest is in most cases more optimal. The main reason could mostly be increased blood flow which would bring down inflammation.

Again, if you or anyone likes taking a week of than great. I'm in no way trying to talk anyone out of anything. Just though I would share my opinion on the topic.
 
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If you were offended by something I said, I apologize. Wasn't at all trying to imply anything negative about your reading comprehension or anything else.

I read a lot of literature from guys who have done studies or on top of this subject such as Eric Helms. Eric Trexler, Brad Shoenfeld, Layne Norton, many more along with bodybuilders that I believe are super knowledgeable such as John Jewett to name one. It seems as if a reactive approach (which I outlined above) compared to a full week of rest is in most cases more optimal. The main reason could mostly be increased blood flow which would bring down inflammation.

Again, if you or anyone likes taking a week of than great. I'm in no way trying to talk anyone out of anything. Just though I would share my opinion on the topic.
No offense taken, and none intended. I'm just always trying to learn more and understand the reasoning behind people's point of views because everyone has differing levels of knowledge, skills, and experience. I always appreciate the conversation and the opportunity to hear a different point of view.
 
Thanks for chiming in guys! I haven’t taken a full week off in years and even then it was only because I was on vacation with a lady friend. I think I’ll wait a bit more so I’m taking a week between cutting and bulking. It’s helpful to know that I only need to do it for my mental health as opposed to physical!
 
When I was in my 20s and 30s it was easy to lift 6 days a week and have great workouts every day, still have energy at work and never get hurt. Ive never missed more than a week since I was prob 16 years old. I tried to keep this pace and it didnt work. In my 40s I lift every other day now. Sometimes I take 2 days off. Some form of cardio 5 days a week. I dont go to failure as often. I log every session including how I felt that day. I do not count calories. Doing this I never feel like I need a week off and Im having a blast doing it again making solid progress.
 
I've done it at the advice of a nutritionist/trainer before and it did help. But, I'm a lot older than most.on here and my circumstances are different. Gotta figure out what's useful to you individually or not.
 
I deload here and there. Only time I took time off was when I had my shoulder replaced. I recently had an eye surgery go wrong which left me blind for a few weeks (until I took BPC 157) so took time off then but I just can't stay out of the gym unless I'm forced too. I'm just stupid like that. But you do you always. Listen to your body. I imagine it speaks some sense every now and again.
 

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