Proviron and Androgenic effects

[bt1k]

Anyone notice androgenic effects like body hair and beard growth on proviron?

 

[bt1k]

Anyone notice androgenic effects like body hair and beard growth on proviron?

Also, I’ve seen some studies saying Proviron unregulates the 5AR enzyme. This has me wondering, to all the people like Vision who run proviron year round or have run before, do you think it permanently changes your response to testosterone by shifting you towards more 5 alpha reduction instead of more aromatase activity?

Thanks boys

 

[RuBould]

If you have higher SHBG I believe this could definitely be a pronounced effect with proviron. It would raise free test considerably and that would be very androgenic. I have high SHBG and I'm considering adding low dose proviron for this reason.

 

[FearsomeCOR]

Yes, it’s very androgenic. It’s DHT derived with a higher rating than test and essentially purely androgenic iirc.

 

[GonadalGooner88]

Yes, it’s very androgenic. It’s DHT derived with a higher rating than test and essentially purely androgenic iirc.

Correct. Proviron like DHT is "inactivated" or converted into terribly weak androgen in skeletal muscle by the 3aHSD enzyme. Unless your a natty looking for a libido boost or someshit there is 0 reason to run proviron.

 

[liverpool_96]

Correct. Proviron like DHT is "inactivated" or converted into terribly weak androgen in skeletal muscle by the 3aHSD enzyme. Unless your a natty looking for a libido boost or someshit there is 0 reason to run proviron.

please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it help by binding to SHBG which would then free up more test to be utilized? which would be of assistance in a stack.

I was thinking of adding it to my gaining cycle and not read up of many reasons not to - other than it is mild. I don't mind that so much as it's not so harsh side effect wise.

 

[GhostReaper]

Test and Proviron is an underrated cycle..
It seems to be an add-once in most Cycles I've seen..to help libido or a little Estrogen Control..
I've ran it a lonnng time ago..
I had good results at just 25mgs per day..
I don't think I ever ran it over that..but I could have, probably without any negative..
I might add it to my TRT..

Just have to give it a try..got to say it's usually the seasoned user..that adds Proviron..
Young guys want Dbol and Drol..
Proviron is not something that will blow your socks off..but if you're looking for a nice, no sides run..try it with Test and see if it's something that you can tolerate and like..
I have tried a lot of compounds over the years..

Before internet..
A few guys I knew would order a small amount and add it for a few weeks..to a familiar Cycle..
Test and Deca..for example..
That way you can get an idea, without spending a lot on a compound..whether or not to commit to a Cycle..
Just remember everybody is different..that's why I always say..don't always go on others ratings..
Z

 

[GonadalGooner88]

please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it help by binding to SHBG which would then free up more test to be utilized? which would be of assistance in a stack.

I was thinking of adding it to my gaining cycle and not read up of many reasons not to - other than it is mild. I don't mind that so much as it's not so harsh side effect wise.

SHBG is already crushed and irrelevant when blasting superphysiological levels of gear, especially if taking them in bolus shots (not every day microshots, in other words). If you want a mild steroid to just "throw in" u can do primo, mast, var, tbol, or even sarms. Each of those actually build muscle...

 

[FearsomeCOR]

SHBG is already crushed and irrelevant when blasting superphysiological levels of gear, especially if taking them in bolus shots (not every day microshots, in other words). If you want a mild steroid to just "throw in" u can do primo, mast, var, tbol, or even sarms. Each of those actually build muscle...

Agreed wholeheartedly. I wouldn’t recommend proviron honestly unless you’re on trt and just terrified of adding other AAS… and even then I’d do at least 50mg considering that’s the starting medical dose.

 

[GhostReaper]

Agreed wholeheartedly. I wouldn’t recommend proviron honestly unless you’re on trt and just terrified of adding other AAS… and even then I’d do at least 50mg considering that’s the starting medical dose.

I think over the yr..someone mentioned they had a nice bump adding Proviron..
Honestly, only used it alone with Test..
Nice cycle results and not one side..
The sides, sometimes don't manifest and if they did, a shot of Rum fixed it..
But the Clock never stops..so the Luck you had early on..that's Perishes Quickly...
The Compound doesn't change anything..
It's our bodies that's the constant change..
Z

 

[Vision]

Correct. Proviron like DHT is "inactivated" or converted into terribly weak androgen in skeletal muscle by the 3aHSD enzyme. Unless your a natty looking for a libido boost or someshit there is 0 reason to run proviron.

If you don't mind me asking, do you have very little experience with proviron?

 

[GhostReaper]

If you don't mind me asking, do you have very little experience with proviron?

Nice Vis..
I love the way you put that..hear somewhere..or it was something similar to what you're Wife was screaming about the Tren..??
Groin shot..
That shit was hilarious...so good infact..you should repost it word for word..
You know I'm just poking fun..
I usually try to live Wives out of it.

But Seriously..it's like the special of the Day is a real shit sandwich...but No..Vis described how wonderful it tastes when I cover it with melted Chocolate..
I'll take two then..

Perfection my Friend...!!!
Z

 

[Vision]

Nice Vis..
I love the way you put that..hear somewhere..or it was something similar to what you're Wife was screaming about the Tren..??
Groin shot..
That shit was hilarious...so good infact..you should repost it word for word..
You know I'm just poking fun..
I usually try to live Wives out of it.

But Seriously..it's like the special of the Day is a real shit sandwich...but No..Vis described how wonderful it tastes when I cover it with melted Chocolate..
I'll take two then..

Perfection my Friend...!!!
Z

Ha.. you'll never let me live that one down with Tren will you old friend?

 

[GhostReaper]

Dude..
That was Classic..almost like a Christmas Vacation...
So..Great.
It's was the dinner table pic..
You the White cat..your Wife screaming at You..
We all knew then..
You are a huge white pussy, with hearing loss..lol

Hell No..I'll never let that one go..@!!
I'm guessing you fucked up when you told her it was amber color, perhaps you emptied to her more than once..
You gotta keep your wife..clear of the Gear..

Best Part..it's All True..
Love you, Brother..
Z

 

[FearsomeCOR]

The sides, sometimes don't manifest and if they did, a shot of Rum fixed it..

You had sides from 25mg proviron

 

[GhostReaper]

You had sides from 25mg proviron

When I ran it with Test only, no sides..
I think I blamed some sides on Proviron in a bigger mix...I'm thinking...it's was something else..
Those were the Eary years of Learning and sometimes guessing...
I wonder sometimes if there's negative interaction with certain compounds mixed..
I see it with the Meds I'm on Now..on full daily load..maybe taking 15 and 25 pills..per day..

That's a topic I've never seen or heard of...
A Question for Vis..or you guys that really get into the science of it All..
I guess Suspension, Tren and Drol...
There's interactions...
Raging Asshole..lol

But..to answer your Question..no I was wrong on Proviron...
But..it was the New compound..so naturally I blamed it...it was back in my 30's..so I can't remember what I running it with..

But to be clear..the sides weren't not from the Proviron..

Z

 

[Meetketchup]

When people question the effects of Proviron. I tell them take it 4 weeks out from a show and add it in. You will notice more of a hardness/dense look instantly. Assuming you are super lean, which you should be.

 

[GhostReaper]

When people question the effects of Proviron. I tell them take it 4 weeks out from a show and add it in. You will notice more of a hardness/dense look instantly. Assuming you are super lean, which you should be.

A softer Halotestin..??
Now that's a brutal compound..I swear I could feel it drilling holes in my Liver..
Gunpowder is cheaper and safer..Lol
Z

 

[Meetketchup]

A softer Halotestin..??
Now that's a brutal compound..I swear I could feel it drilling holes in my Liver..
Gunpowder is cheaper and safer..Lol
Z

Nothing compares to Halo!

 

[GhostReaper]

Nothing compares to Halo!

For What..
Killing your liver or more Bar fights..
Some compounds don't agree with us..
Halo is mine..

Wise uses it, no problems he said..
Maybe because of Maturity..
Can you imagine a 23 yr old on Halo..??
At least I tried it...
To see..

Z

 

[Glycomann]

Correct. Proviron like DHT is "inactivated" or converted into terribly weak androgen in skeletal muscle by the 3aHSD enzyme. Unless your a natty looking for a libido boost or someshit there is 0 reason to run proviron.

Meh, IDK, it's a decent hardener if you want an additional hardness. Go off for a month and then just take 50 mg/d Proviron. I did that. It's a hardener on its own when you are in a natty/hypo state. I ran a bunch of experiments with it. It's a tool for certain jobs.