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I started using primo this cycle and seems to work fairly well, not a mass monster but one of the safer ones. We all know about the shortage, any body recommend a fairly close substitute as i need to place a new order soon. Was going to go back to NPP next cycle but decided to keep with pri.o but right now can't get it, well at least in raws my course is out
 
I was reading about mast vs primo and I'm not contest prepping or anything they seem more aesthetic than pitting in muscle?. Think I might just go back to NPP, want to put on some size, not too worried about the water I can manage that and NPP hasnt been too bad to me
 
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I was reading about mast vs primo and I'm not contest prepping or anything they seem more aesthetic than pitting in muscle?. Think I might just go back to NPP, want to put on some size, not too worried about the water I can manage that and NPP hasnt been too bad to me
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NPP is fine, but it's not like Primo. :)

Don't believe everything you read. You switch primo and mast without telling someone they probably wouldn't know the difference and yes, that is coming from experience.
 
Have been on primo abit now and apparently i am that person that it doesn't work for E2, up to 1g per week and still have a little E2 issues, just waiting for the labs to come back with actual number. Did notice shedding but took dutasteride 2 times per week and seemed to stop that. That's why i like to try different things because what I read my body seems to react differently most cases. At the amount of primo needed only want raws or it gets pricey idk maybe I'll try mast unless that has shortage too
 
Pavetim said:
I started using primo this cycle and seems to work fairly well, not a mass monster but one of the safer ones. We all know about the shortage, any body recommend a fairly close substitute as i need to place a new order soon. Was going to go back to NPP next cycle but decided to keep with pri.o but right now can't get it, well at least in raws my course is out
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Masteron is the eassyyy choice here.

Also, its making me nervous when you say you are running a gram of anything and didn't know this answer. Just my 2 cents.
 
Well we all know primo is fairly weak i was honestly trying it to avoid using an AI but still need one it doesn't do the estrogen suppression for me, not as much AI but still need
 
Well we all know primo is fairly weak i was honestly trying it to avoid using an AI but still need one it doesn't do the estrogen suppression for me, not as much AI but still need. I did work my way up btw and it's a good cycle all my labs for the most part are good but since can't get primo raw now just looking at options or just use ugl primo
 
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OMG stop spinning words no I'm not running it to just not run an AI obviously to build quality muscle too. And how would i know "this answer" if I never ran mast before?
 
@Pavetim Yeah Mast E is going into shortage as well. Take a look around at the shops lots of out of stock on both but some still have both, for now. Good ASF sourced shops too.

You may need to bump the Primo and then it may help lower your estrogen. If you are pinning a gram of test it is going to take a good bit of Primo to counter the estrogen rise on that amount of T for some (sounds like you are one).

Couple questions: How much Primo are you pinning with that gram of T? How much of and what type of AI are you using? Are you above 15% body fat?

Mast E can mask and/or reduce estrogen sides, but it will not actually lower estrogen like a quality Primo can. I love Mast E but it definitely puckers up my prostate if I run it too long, where Primo does not. I'd run Mast E all year round if it didn't hit my prostate and make me even hornier than I normally am (sometimes too much). Some say if you are above 15% bodyfat to not even use Mast as you don't really see the visible benefits of it as much having higher body fat but it still sure feels good.
 
Pavetim said:
I started using primo this cycle and seems to work fairly well, not a mass monster but one of the safer ones. We all know about the shortage, any body recommend a fairly close substitute as i need to place a new order soon. Was going to go back to NPP next cycle but decided to keep with pri.o but right now can't get it, well at least in raws my course is out
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Make sure not to crash E2 on masteron. Your joints will hate you while lifting. They get dried out easily.
 
Pavetim said:
I started using primo this cycle and seems to work fairly well, not a mass monster but one of the safer ones. We all know about the shortage, any body recommend a fairly close substitute as i need to place a new order soon. Was going to go back to NPP next cycle but decided to keep with pri.o but right now can't get it, well at least in raws my course is out
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Mast my friend. Dont believe all the BS about it not being anabolic. It is and just as much as Primo in my opinion. More in my case, but in general guys could swap the two and not tell much of a difference.
 

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