Potential on a test/tren/primo cycle?

[Linvial]

Currently running test e, 125/week split twice a week. Just put in an order for tren e and primo e.
I really enjoy the lower test dose, now I’m thinking I would enjoy a lower dose of more aggressive compounds on a slightly longer cycle.
Has anyone ran tren e and primo e together? What did you learn and what was your experience?
I have been mulling over the idea of doing 125/week of tren and primo and 250/week of test e, all 3 split twice a week and running all 3 at those doses for about 12 weeks. Then continue on with test at that dose for another 4-6 weeks and then backing down to 125/week again.

I’m 34, wife and kids with another baby coming in a few weeks, work on the road, eat relatively clean, workout 3/5 times a week depending on work.

Let me know if I’m being a dork or I if could expect some legitimate quality gains from this.

 

[Meetketchup]

Size? Bodyfat? What is your goal? What are you expecting from the tren? Why run it when you have a baby coming?

Give us some information.

 

[Linvial]

Size? Bodyfat? What is your goal? What are you expecting from the tren? Why run it when you have a baby coming?

Give us some information.

I’m 6’1”, 245 at about 17-18% bf, goal is more strength, that’s my main purpose for the tren, second biggest goal is dropping the bf. I thought tren and primo would compliment each other well in that aspect as well as the primo “protecting” my e2 and the anecdotal “good feelings” countering the aggression of the tren. Like I said, I work on the road and only really come home every other weekend so right now the new baby isn’t going to be much of a trigger or hindrance for me. I also won’t be starting the compounds until after the baby is here and home life levels back out and I get back on the road full time.
Keeping everything (mentally) in check is also the reason for keeping the doses lower. I don’t mind milder results if the mental state is easier to maintain.

 

[KrossOut]

I’m 6’1”, 245 at about 17-18% bf, goal is more strength, that’s my main purpose for the tren, second biggest goal is dropping the bf. I thought tren and primo would compliment each other well in that aspect as well as the primo “protecting” my e2 and the anecdotal “good feelings” countering the aggression of the tren. Like I said, I work on the road and only really come home every other weekend so right now the new baby isn’t going to be much of a trigger or hindrance for me. I also won’t be starting the compounds until after the baby is here and home life levels back out and I get back on the road full time.
Keeping everything (mentally) in check is also the reason for keeping the doses lower. I don’t mind milder results if the mental state is easier to maintain.

So you want to lose body fat… but increase strength… all at the same time.

Ok. Sure.

That’s a lot harder to do together at the same time. A better plan would be to lose the bodyfat first. Then when you’re in the 10% to 12% range you can eat enough to really drive the strength and not end up a fat ass at the end of the cycle.

And tren is something that you should use after using up all the other tools. The shit is the worst mentally. You have a new baby on the way. Your wife will be stressed. Regardless of whether you are there or not, that sounds like a volatile mix.

 

[MarineMan]

I lost around 20 pounds while running low dose test-c and some primo. The gear didn't do it..it was my diet and regiment. If you can dial in your macros accordingly and commit to training you can recomp on nothing more than 200mg test.
My strength also continued to consistently go up during the 20 weeks I ran that. Slow and steady is how I would describe it....honestly it wasn't until around week 12-14 when I started really noticing a change in my body composition. My wife and friends in the gym noticed and now about 4/5 weeks post cycle I can say I have maintained 95% of that recomp and strength.
I know maybe .00001% about this shit compared to a guy like @Meetketchup but my recommendation...especially with a new baby...is slow and steady bro.

 

[Linvial]

So you want to lose body fat… but increase strength… all at the same time.

Ok. Sure.

That’s a lot harder to do together at the same time. A better plan would be to lose the bodyfat first. Then when you’re in the 10% to 12% range you can eat enough to really drive the strength and not end up a fat ass at the end of the cycle.

And tren is something that you should use after using up all the other tools. The shit is the worst mentally. You have a new baby on the way. Your wife will be stressed. Regardless of whether you are there or not, that sounds like a volatile mix.

I respect it. 100%.

I know the strength and bf thing is hard. That’s why tren came to mind. I have no qualms with running primo for the long term and getting there later but with higher quality gains. I just came here to see what the consensus was.
Tren will be break-glass-in-case-of-war only then.
Right next to the meth.

 

[Matt88]

I would put the tren away and not run it right now. It sounds like you have never run Primo or Tren before? It`s not a good idea to start two new compounds at once because if you get side effects you won`t know which one is the cause. Now it could be said that primo is so mild side effect wise that it could be ok but you don`t know how the primo is going to effect your estrogen level as it behaves similar to an AI (aromatase inhibitor). It`s also still a drug that can cause side effects. Also, you aren`t going to see a lot of action with primo at 125 per wk. You will get a little bit of a decrease in your SHBG and thus raise your free testosterone but you could do that with Mast or Proviron as well and it be much cheaper.

Once you run Primo + Test together you will know how you respond to it and you can then think about adding a third compound.

Diet is what will decide if you lose fat or not. Not steroids. Steroids aren`t fat burners. The biggest perk with running steroids while dieting is that they help you maintain the muscle you already have so your body will focus more on losing body fat than muscle.

I`d suggest dieting down before you worry about upping your strength. Again, diet. You want to be in a caloric deficit to lose fat and if you want to gain muscle/strength then you want to be in a calorie surplus.

 

[Linvial]

I would put the tren away and not run it right now. It sounds like you have never run Primo or Tren before? It`s not a good idea to start two new compounds at once because if you get side effects you won`t know which one is the cause. Now it could be said that primo is so mild side effect wise that it could be ok but you don`t know how the primo is going to effect your estrogen level as it behaves similar to an AI (aromatase inhibitor). It`s also still a drug that can cause side effects. Also, you aren`t going to see a lot of action with primo at 125 per wk. You will get a little bit of a decrease in your SHBG and thus raise your free testosterone but you could do that with Mast or Proviron as well and it be much cheaper.

Once you run Primo + Test together you will know how you respond to it and you can then think about adding a third compound.

Diet is what will decide if you lose fat or not. Not steroids. Steroids aren`t fat burners. The biggest perk with running steroids while dieting is that they help you maintain the muscle you already have so your body will focus more on losing body fat than muscle.

I`d suggest dieting down before you worry about upping your strength. Again, diet. You want to be in a caloric deficit to lose fat and if you want to gain muscle/strength then you want to be in a calorie surplus.

Very fair. I also tend to be impulsive so I buy before I try. But you are correct, I’ve only done a test and test/dbol cycle so tren and primo are both new compounds for me.

 

[Jbswole40]

Great replies here from everyone,
I say leave the tren out..your fam will thank you

 

[Matt88]

Very fair. I also tend to be impulsive so I buy before I try. But you are correct, I’ve only done a test and test/dbol cycle so tren and primo are both new compounds for me.

Gear has a very long shelf life in a room temperature dark place. It will be just fine for a future run so it`s not like it`s going to waste etc

 

[Linvial]

Gear has a very long shelf life in a room temperature dark place. It will be just fine for a future run so it`s not like it`s going to waste etc

I keep all my bottles in my gun safe with several silica gel bags on the floor of the safe so they are exposed to very little light and very little moisture at a relatively stable temp save for the difference between summer and winter

 

[Matt88]

I keep all my bottles in my gun safe with several silica gel bags on the floor of the safe so they are exposed to very little light and very little moisture at a relatively stable temp save for the difference between summer and winter

Golden rod is super nice for a gun safe if you ever need more dehumidifying. I got a super cheap digit humidity monitor in my safe from amazon that is super handy to monitor the % as well

 

[Linvial]

Also, you aren`t going to see a lot of action with primo at 125 per wk.

I would definitely run the primo at a higher dose without the tren. That was only to keep the total of those two lower than my test.
What do you think 200/250 primo/test a week would do for me? Or 1:1 them

 

[Matt88]

I would definitely run the primo at a higher dose without the tren. That was only to keep the total of those two lower than my test.
What do you think 200/250 primo/test a week would do for me? Or 1:1 them

I`d start at a 1:1 ratio. Some guys can run primo higher than test. Some guys need test higher than primo. Just depends on what type of converter you are. Only way to know for sure is blood work. I need test 200mg higher than mast or primo bc I am a very low converter but I am not normal in the slightest.

 

[Sickxlost]

I agree 1:1 ratio to start.

This is a walk not a race type of lifestyle.

Tren will be the most harsh and side effect causing compound you will ever inject. You need to fully understand this game before you take on the final boss.