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Wondering if anyone has come off after blasting and cruising? I’ve been blasting and cruising about 2 years and looking to come off for a while. Wondering the best way to do this safely and what to watch out for
 
what's your age? what have you been blasting? prepare a HCG, nolvadex, and clomid. also need to have a few bloodworks
 
SuppsForLife said:
what's your age? what have you been blasting? prepare a HCG, nolvadex, and clomid. also need to have a few bloodworks
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I’m 29 started at 27. 175mg of test cruise up to 500 on the high end but mostly my blast was 1.5 cc a week of test.. nothing too extreme I don’t think. My testicles are still there at least..
 
Agreed, 500mg is a high cruise. It looks like you might mean 175mg on cruise and 500mg test for your blast? What do you weigh? BF%? I cruise with at most 200mg test weekly. I do run a good dose of HGH year round though.
 
Reaper7 said:
Agreed, 500mg is a high cruise. It looks like you might mean 175mg on cruise and 500mg test for your blast? What do you weigh? BF%? I cruise with at most 200mg test weekly. I do run a good dose of HGH year round though.
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He says his blast was 1.5cc
 
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Yes, I think it is important for longevity. I go off for 3 weeks or more and then TRT at 30-50 mg MWF and do that for a good while, usually with hCG. I test bloods at 8 weeks and go from there. Sometimes I add cardio to stay lean. I rarely drop more than 8 lbs, which comes back almost immediately.
 
If you want to come off after blasting and cruising for 2 years (as much as I guess, you used nothing else but testosterone?) you should have bloodwork, stop testosterone and start HCG.
Have Aromasin (Exemestane) handy and use it in case you notice high estrogen symptoms. Don't use Arimidex or Letrozole, for PCT - you need Aromasin because, unlike the other antiestrogens, it permanently binds to aromatase enzymes. Take the required Aromasin dosage based on your estrogen symptoms. Adjust dosage according to your estrogen levels (or at least estrogen side effects such as gyno, as you said you're prone to it, but remember that you're going to use Nolvadex later which prevents gyno too).

Start PCT
Week 1 of PCT: 100 mg/day of Clomid and 40 mg/day of Nolvadex and 250 IU/day of HCG every 3 days (Aromasin in the necessary dosage).
Week 2 of PCT: 50-100 mg/day of Clomid and 40 mg/day of Nolvadex with 250 IU/day of HCG every 3-5 days (Aromasin)
Week 3 of PCT: 50 mg/day of Clomid and 40 mg/day of Nolvadex with 250 IU/day of HCG every 5-7 days (Aromasin)
Week 4 of PCT: 50 mg/day of Clomid and 40 mg/day of Nolvadex (Aromasin)
Week 5 of PCT: 50 mg/day of Clomid and 20 mg/day of Nolvadex (Aromasin)
Week 6 of PCT: 25 mg/day of Clomid and 20 mg/day of Nolvadex (Aromasin)
You can continue two more weeks with similar dosages or drop one of them (clomid or nolvadex).

There's absolutely no guarantee that this plan is going to work and you're very likely to experience side effects/ negative symptoms while attempting to get back to normal after that long use of exogenous test. You can and should change the dosages according to your needs.

PS: Proper dieting and working out is going to help a lot in getting through the PCT. You're also likely going to need natural testosterone boosters, vitamins, minerals and numerous other supplements that can help you recover faster/easier/safer.
 
Ka’a’ikena said:
My bad 500 was blast at the highest end for up to 4 weeks mostly my blast look like 1.5 cc cruise .7-.9cc roughly. If that makes sense
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You have to start reporting the actual dose and not the volume. These things all come in different concentrations so we don't know your dose if you just report the volume like 0.9 cc. For instance if you have test C at 200mg/ml and you inject 1.5 ml then its 200 mg/ml x 1.5 ml = 300 mg. The volume cancels out leaving you with the mg in your dose. This is called the factor label method. If you still don't understand you can Google it.
 
SuppsForLife said:
If you want to come off after blasting and cruising for 2 years (as much as I guess, you used nothing else but testosterone?) you should have bloodwork, stop testosterone and start HCG.
Have Aromasin (Exemestane) handy and use it in case you notice high estrogen symptoms. Don't use Arimidex or Letrozole, for PCT - you need Aromasin because, unlike the other antiestrogens, it permanently binds to aromatase enzymes. Take the required Aromasin dosage based on your estrogen symptoms. Adjust dosage according to your estrogen levels (or at least estrogen side effects such as gyno, as you said you're prone to it, but remember that you're going to use Nolvadex later which prevents gyno too).

Start PCT
Week 1 of PCT: 100 mg/day of Clomid and 40 mg/day of Nolvadex and 250 IU/day of HCG every 3 days (Aromasin in the necessary dosage).
Week 2 of PCT: 50-100 mg/day of Clomid and 40 mg/day of Nolvadex with 250 IU/day of HCG every 3-5 days (Aromasin)
Week 3 of PCT: 50 mg/day of Clomid and 40 mg/day of Nolvadex with 250 IU/day of HCG every 5-7 days (Aromasin)
Week 4 of PCT: 50 mg/day of Clomid and 40 mg/day of Nolvadex (Aromasin)
Week 5 of PCT: 50 mg/day of Clomid and 20 mg/day of Nolvadex (Aromasin)
Week 6 of PCT: 25 mg/day of Clomid and 20 mg/day of Nolvadex (Aromasin)
You can continue two more weeks with similar dosages or drop one of them (clomid or nolvadex).

There's absolutely no guarantee that this plan is going to work and you're very likely to experience side effects/ negative symptoms while attempting to get back to normal after that long use of exogenous test. You can and should change the dosages according to your needs.

PS: Proper dieting and working out is going to help a lot in getting through the PCT. You're also likely going to need natural testosterone boosters, vitamins, minerals and numerous other supplements that can help you recover faster/easier/safer.
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This protocol seems a bit aggressive no?
 
Reaper7 said:
This protocol seems a bit aggressive no?
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yeah. that's a very aggressive protocol to come off a very suppressive cycle (because he's been on steroids for a long time). as said, dosages must be adjusted according to personal feelings.
Deezo said:
Correct and without bloods, it's all just guessing
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exactly. that's why I first mentioned that he should have the bloodwork first
 
SuppsForLife said:
yeah. that's a very aggressive protocol to come off a very suppressive cycle (because he's been on steroids for a long time). as said, dosages must be adjusted according to personal feelings.

exactly. that's why I first mentioned that he should have the bloodwork first
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What’s the best way to go about getting the proper bloodwork done ?
 
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I’m going through something similar at the moment. Was on TRT for about two years, dose ranged from 100mg/week to 200mg/week. After that first year of being on TRT I started to dabble in additional compounds for some TRT+. Nothing crazy, but definitely in the “mini-cycle” range.

Came off cause we’re trying to have another kid. Started working with an endocrinologist on the recommendation of my primary doctor. The endo had me on 50mg of clomid daily. Things were fine for the first few weeks, then I felt like absolute dog shit. Bloodwork showed my test in the low 200’s. All other markers were in the normal range.

Reached out to the endo and he just kind of shrugged his shoulders and said he could prescribe me an AI. Decided to follow advice I got from here and some others. Switched from clomid to enclomiphene at 25mg daily and added HCG at 500iu M/W/F. Started to feel a lot better, still not great, but much better than before. Bloodwork done last week showed test in the mid 500’s. FSH and LH on the high end, E2 normal.

Short story long: With PCT you’re gonna have to find what works for you. Enclo and HCG worked for me. Clomid made me feel like shit.
 
Hot take: I wouldnt do shit, esp at your age. Run a last cruise then cold turkey. Your body will get itself right all by itself faster than with all that other shit that you dont even know how youll respond to in the first place. Maybe have some nolva on hand just in case the nips flare up but coming off from cruise-level I wouldnt expect much risk in that either

Ive ran elaborate pcts and cold turkeyed many times too. Cold turkey always went better for me personally. Pct just seem to prolong the inevitable
 
Coming off a blast I usually dropped down to something like 200/week for 4-5 weeks. This doesnt help natural test levels but it lets the rest of the body, and the mind, get used to not being so juiced up. The proverbial softer landing. Thats why I said do it after a cruise period
 
Joe_256 said:
Coming off a blast I usually dropped down to something like 200/week for 4-5 weeks. This doesnt help natural test levels but it lets the rest of the body, and the mind, get used to not being so juiced up. The proverbial softer landing. Thats why I said do it after a cruise period
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yep. if trying to get back to natural after blasting and cruising, best thing would be to do so after a cruise after 4-6 weeks. maybe even lower dosages than 200 mg/week. the point is to do it all slowly and steadily. that's much safer
 
Just make sure you have hcg and clomid and you should be fine. Pay attention to your body and dose accordingly.

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