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Noobie First Cycle - MK 677 vs LGD 4033

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52 yr old male, 5’7”, 150 lbs. Looking for something “modest” to start with and considering LGD 4033 vs MK 677? Concerned about RAD because of the acne it causes. I lift weights 6 days a week and do cardio 6-7 days a week. Have great stamina from years of Ironman and Triathlon training but want to add bulk so don’t think I need Cardarine. Also, between MK 677 and LGD 4033, which is more likely to produce muscle gains I am likely to keep if I continue to work out aggressively? I’ve read MK causes gains through bloating but also does help pack on muscle.

Any recommendations? Any views on Prime Sports Nutrition for supplements?

Thanks.
 
DrDre71 said:
52 yr old male, 5’7”, 150 lbs. Looking for something “modest” to start with and considering LGD 4033 vs MK 677? Concerned about RAD because of the acne it causes. I lift weights 6 days a week and do cardio 6-7 days a week. Have great stamina from years of Ironman and Triathlon training but want to add bulk so don’t think I need Cardarine. Also, between MK 677 and LGD 4033, which is more likely to produce muscle gains I am likely to keep if I continue to work out aggressively? I’ve read MK causes gains through bloating but also does help pack on muscle.

Any recommendations? Any views on Prime Sports Nutrition for supplements?

Thanks.
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You will get 2-3 times the gains for just testosterone over sarms. They have their place but they aren’t a cycle.
 
SARMS are a waste of money. Stay away from them. Some of them shut down your test levals requiring pct afterwards. Just like steriods. At 52 have you checked to see if you have low T? Most men do. If your qualify just bringing your test levals to where they were in your 20s will give you the advantage your looking for. Just a side note running Cardine will help normalize your lipids levals during a cycle. It's not only used for energy and fat mobilization.
 
Powerhousehb said:
SARMS are a waste of money. Stay away from them. Some of them shut down your test levals requiring pct afterwards. Just like steriods. At 52 have you checked to see if you have low T? Most men do. If your qualify just bringing your test levals to where they were in your 20s will give you the advantage your looking for. Just a side note running Cardine will help normalize your lipids levals during a cycle. It's not only used for energy and fat mobilization.
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What’s best way/most cost efficient way to check for low T? Thx
 
DrDre71 said:
What’s best way/most cost efficient way to check for low T? Thx
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Therr are many TRT clinics that will test you for free because they want your business. Just tell you will think about it after you get the results.
 
Does Testosterone require injections? I am quite nervous to go that route? What is the minimal dosage and cycle to see “modest” results?

Sorry for the noob questions.
 
DrDre71 said:
Does Testosterone require injections? I am quite nervous to go that route? What is the minimal dosage and cycle to see “modest” results?

Sorry for the noob questions.
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Injections are the only way to go. Like Biggang said, getting passed the first few injections is a bit of a battle mentally but you will. I gave myself my first one many years ago and I don’t even remember it now. But once you get passed that it’s honestly a breeze. I am going to link a site that gives you some options, but upper glutes is best starting point. Also if your wife is cool have her do the first few for you. My wife gives me mine sometimes when my neck and shoulder issues flare up.

You can do it dude. Just go talk to your PCP (that’s who my TRT doc is) and tell him your sex drive is low, that you are always lethargic, and feel like you may have low testosterone. Make him do bloods. Then give him some bs story how your cousin or someone was dealing with the same thing and his doc put him on TRT. You just have to do it. He’s your doctor, if he says no then tell him you want him to continue to be your doctor but you are going to look at going to a TRT specific doc if he isn’t willing to hear you out.

Spot Injections
 
DrDre71 said:
Does Testosterone require injections? I am quite nervous to go that route? What is the minimal dosage and cycle to see “modest” results?

Sorry for the noob questions.
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Bro I was deathly fucking afraid of shots. I had a panic attack first one of t. Literally shivering under the covers.

I feel.so fucking stupid for reacting like that. It's mad easy.

I inject 3 times a week plus 2 more peptides as well now.

Do it seriously you won't regret it.
 
DrDre71 said:
Does Testosterone require injections? I am quite nervous to go that route? What is the minimal dosage and cycle to see “modest” results?

Sorry for the noob questions.
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Have a friend pin you until you can do it or a gf. I was never afraid of needles. First time was a pice of cake. Anyway you look at it you will have to inject at least 2 times a week. Once you get used to it its not a big deal. Minumum 400mg week 12 weeks should give you good gaines. Pin every 3.5 days 200mg. Make sure you diet is all set up First before you start with the steriods. Pin to win brother!
 
DrDre71 said:
52 yr old male, 5’7”, 150 lbs. Looking for something “modest” to start with and considering LGD 4033 vs MK 677? Concerned about RAD because of the acne it causes. I lift weights 6 days a week and do cardio 6-7 days a week. Have great stamina from years of Ironman and Triathlon training but want to add bulk so don’t think I need Cardarine. Also, between MK 677 and LGD 4033, which is more likely to produce muscle gains I am likely to keep if I continue to work out aggressively? I’ve read MK causes gains through bloating but also does help pack on muscle.

Any recommendations? Any views on Prime Sports Nutrition for supplements?

Thanks.
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Back when I was a trainer I put natural guys on the stack of MK-677 and LGD. They all put nice size on. I would go with testosterone for the best gains unless you want to avoid crossing the imaginary line in the sand. MK-677 puts water on but for me it’s mostly contained inside the muscles so it looks great. If you have a genetic predisposition to high blood pressure it can be an issue. For best gains get on TRT.

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Two more questions for you experts - still nervous about pinning and the acne side effect with TRT. 1) Thoughts / experience on Anavar?

2) For those of you who don’t hate SARMs - thoughts on LGD 4033 (Ligandrol) vs Osterine (MK 2866)?

Thanks for educating this noob.
 
Hey

Maybe I can help u with my experience.

I am 37, martial artist, did competition kickboxing before, allways searching for more stamina and power

I did (still do) Turinabol (oral tbol) in combination with 50mg mk677 (oral tablets) and cardarine (mk2866). Honestly…tbol kicks in as hell for cardio and stamina, for fighting, for heavy bag work, for running, u will gain clean lean muscle (no mass). Together with the mk677 maybe 3kg in 6 weeks. Keep mk677 cycling after tbol ends (for pct stack). But also here my opinion: sarms allone is a waste of money.


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For now I had just experience with mk677 (which is not really a sarm) and mk2866 (ostarine, not cardarine..sorry) I did not felt any kick or gainz more with it. To compare it with roids: i took tbol and after a few days I recognize more stamine, more power, more motivation. Maybe the sarm works as well, but never like roids.


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@DrDre71 Also one point I recognized with mk677: If u take it as a pill/capsule I take the double, so for me 50mg (before sleep) instead of 25mg. I will check it with the liquid one too.
 
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Getting passed the injection is the hardest part. Every other bit is well worth it
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I remember my first pin. 27g 5/8 pin couldn’t get the air bubble out it went from a full cc to .8 😂 then I pinned the lowest part of my glute and could barely walk for 3 days. VGs are the way to go…
 
You'll get over the pinning real fast when you switch from the clinic 18g harpoons to subq insulin needles. 30gauge 1/2 needle. you literally feel nothing. No need to worry about acne unless your very prone. Just stay clean, change sheets often and use skin care products or take the dive and have accutane on hand to nuke the acne from orbit just to be sure. You will get excellent results since it will be your 1st test run and sarms will be a faded memory like the ex that took everything in the divorce. You can always stack a sarm or other compound later down the road for experimental funziez.
 
DrDre71 said:
52 yr old male, 5’7”, 150 lbs. Looking for something “modest” to start with and considering LGD 4033 vs MK 677? Concerned about RAD because of the acne it causes. I lift weights 6 days a week and do cardio 6-7 days a week. Have great stamina from years of Ironman and Triathlon training but want to add bulk so don’t think I need Cardarine. Also, between MK 677 and LGD 4033, which is more likely to produce muscle gains I am likely to keep if I continue to work out aggressively? I’ve read MK causes gains through bloating but also does help pack on muscle.

Any recommendations? Any views on Prime Sports Nutrition for supplements?

Thanks.
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Bloodwork? Those sarms wont do shit if you have low-T, except make things worse.

I can already see you overtraining and screwing yourself up with sarms while ignoring diet and bloodwork. 🤦

Nothing personal, we get a lot of these in here.

Most supplements marketed towards the fitness are either shit, over-priced or both.

Not to piss on your parade but read some of the logs here and see what guys who have the body you want are doing to get it.
 
DrDre71 said:
Two more questions for you experts - still nervous about pinning and the acne side effect with TRT. 1) Thoughts / experience on Anavar?

2) For those of you who don’t hate SARMs - thoughts on LGD 4033 (Ligandrol) vs Osterine (MK 2866)?

Thanks for educating this noob.
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Anavar is great but shuts down your HPTA. You need to take it with test. Oral only is a no no
 
DrDre71 said:
Does Testosterone require injections? I am quite nervous to go that route? What is the minimal dosage and cycle to see “modest” results?

Sorry for the noob questions.
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shoot your rear butt - you won't see what you're doing, just feel it. (half serious reply)..
and let the alcohol DRY after swabbing the intended injection site. Reduces the oucheeee sting.
 
Enclomiphene with var works also for a short time (6weeks) if you want to try for the first time


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