Next cycle?

[Wiseguy]

Ok been cruising at 200mgs of test only for 6 months now. Current weight 185. Just did blood work and everything is spot on. Cholesterol 170, BP 108/63, kidney and liver function normal, complete blood count normal, PSA normal range, sugar normal and did a colonoscopy last month which was good and not due for another one in 10 years.

I will be putting the next cycle together shortly. It will 100% include primo and test. Rest I have to figure out. Goal is to stay lean 180-181 range. Some of you might say you are already at 185 that should be easy. Not really since year around I eat extremely clean and my bodyfat is low already. At age 59 trying to preserve as much muscle as possible.
All gear will be MuscleShop.

More to come, standby……

 

[LiverKing01]

You have run their Test and Deca? How about the Tren? Always looking for feedback on different sources. You looking good

 

[mae_geri]

RESPECT buddy! 59 with this shape!! Great! Machine!

You're already damn lean...what's your bf? Why not puting on lean muscle mass? If you level up the test and add some primo I guess you'll add weight...and if your diet is on point (what I'm pretty sure it is) you'll look amazing with 200lbs (for example).

 

[Wiseguy]

You have run their Test and Deca? How about the Tren? Always looking for feedback on different sources. You looking good

Never ran Deca. Tren I did several times for shows last year. Hex, tri tren and Tren A all amazing.

 

[LiverKing01]

Never ran Deca. Tren I did several times for shows last year. Hex, tri tren and Tren A all amazing.

Thank you sir

 

[Wiseguy]

RESPECT buddy! 59 with this shape!! Great! Machine!

You're already damn lean...what's your bf? Why not puting on lean muscle mass? If you level up the test and add some primo I guess you'll add weight...and if your diet is on point (what I'm pretty sure it is) you'll look amazing with 200lbs (for example).

Thanks my brother. I am always below 12% and show time in single digits. My ideal weight is always 180 range. Been athlete all my life and coach college soccer and football. My all time favorite bodybuilder Frank Zaine. He won Olympia three times at 185 pounds. I always do low gear under 300. Never had torn muscles or tendon issues and I contribute that to low dosage, tons of cardio and not lifting heavy. The weight and staying lean is perfect for my life style. Thank you.

 

[Astro95]

Crazy physique at your age or at 20 plus great health.

 

[PlatePusher]

Respect !!!! I am thinking to myself how does it get any better lol.

 

[Wrathchild1245]

Never ran Deca. Tren I did several times for shows last year. Hex, tri tren and Tren A all amazing.

Agree with this. Currently using MuscleShop Tren A and it’s treating me great so far.

 

[Startingover]

to see what you put together??
Physique is crazy already!!
looks bit lower than 12%..
Whatever it is??
Works well for ya wiseguy!!

 

[Meetketchup]

People need to listen to @Wiseguy I don't know why it's so hard to understand that you grow the same amount of muscle in a small caloric surplus as a larger one.

 

[Meetketchup]

to see what you put together??
Physique is crazy already!!
looks bit lower than 12%..

People have no idea what a true 8, 12, 15, 20% bf looks like. That's why they always under estimate it.

 

[Wiseguy]

People have no idea what a true 8, 12, 15, 20% bf looks like. That's why they always under estimate it.

Very true. It is a huge difference when I get on stage at 5% to 6%. You can see every saturations and separation of all muscles. I am guessing 12% might even be higher. Funny thing is I have three college kids and they have never seen me without a six pack LOL.

 

[Startingover]

People have no idea what a true 8, 12, 15, 20% bf looks like. That's why they always under estimate it.

was only a guesstamation..
Just looks pretty lean to me!?!?
Although I'm sure no authority on BF%..
Whats ur take on it?
curious..

 

[Wiseguy]

to see what you put together??
Physique is crazy already!!
looks bit lower than 12%..
Whatever it is??
Works well for ya wiseguy!!

Thank you my brother. You be surprised the difference between single and double digit bodyfat. I see sometimes brothers post pics and say their body fat is like 12% and I am like no more like 20%. It takes a while to figure it out. After 30 years doing this I think I kind of finally got it.

 

[Battousai]

test,, primo, var

 

[Wiseguy]

People need to listen to @Wiseguy I don't know why it's so hard to understand that you grow the same amount of muscle in a small caloric surplus as a larger one.

I never in my life gained more than 5 pounds of solid weight. Cycles are usually between 8 to 12 weeks and under 300mg. Getting off is very easy and hardly any sides. I use dry compounds only. Not fan of Deca, dbol, anadrol or anything that puts on water weight. I rather put on solid 2-5 pounds of muscle and keep it. The trick is longevity and patients. Look at Frank Zaine. In his 70s and still looks great and functioning. Look at all the other guys that abuse the drugs and fall apart by the time they are 50.

Anyway to each his own. I never tell people what to do. Do what works for you. My plan works for me.

 

[Wiseguy]

test,, primo, var

Test and Primo is given. Now if I decide to do a show this summer I have to throw in tren and Halo if I don't its a whole another ball game. Still have time to figure it out . But that is a great combo.

 

[Wiseguy]

Respect !!!! I am thinking to myself how does it get any better lol.

Its an on going process my friend. Have to be patient and let the process work. Biggest mistake I see is guys take more and more gear to get results faster. Yes, you might be getting short term better results but long term health is what you need to worry about.

 

[Wiseguy]

 

[Deezo]

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What is your height? Looking shredded as always sir

 

[Wiseguy]

5”10 now. I was 5’11 few years ago lol. Barefoot show time they measure me at 5”9 and half.

What is your height? Looking shredded as always sir

ey always

 

[[Pinhead]]

Looking great, dude! I'll be watching to see how it's going.

 

[Startingover]

Ripped!!
Can't imagine ya at 6% crazy!!
Give us old guyz hope!

 

[Wiseguy]

It is crazy but impossible to maintain. 10 to 12 is doable but I work hard to get it down to single digits specially for my age.

Ripped!!
Can't imagine ya at 6% crazy!!
Give us old guyz hope!

 

[Startingover]

It is crazy but impossible to maintain. 10 to 12 is doable but I work hard to get it down to single digits specially for my age.

I know you do man!!
Lots of discipline and hard motherfucking work!!
Respect!

 

[HighCotton]

Looking good Brother!!! Keep up the grind

 

[PlatePusher]

I think I remember the last thread about you not eating carbs. What’s a normal day of eating for you?? If you don’t mind. Curious..

 

[Wiseguy]

All protein, fats and green vegetables.

No sugar or carbs. I am just used to it. Not a diet just my life style. Fortunately I don’t have sweet tooth

I think I remember the last thread about you not eating carbs. What’s a normal day of eating for you?? If you don’t mind. Curious..

 

[Meetketchup]

People need to remember that when your nutrition, training and cardio are ON point all year round like wiseguy and others of us...THAT is why you don't need excessive dosages.