New organ support supplement

[GrindingGray]

Not sure if any of y’all follow The Guerrilla Chemist but I like the few supplements he’s developed. All of his ingredients are based on studies and not bro science. He’s the first person I’ve seen to say that beta-alanine is worthless. He has a new organ support formula under his brand Chemix. What are y’all’s thoughts?

 

[Fletcher]

There are some "support essentials" in there,... I also see several things missing that could be there.

The nattokinase in there comes from soy, and over 95% of soy is gmo, and polluted with glyphosate (Round-Up) so Ill pass on this and stick to my 5% Nation Liver & Organ Defender.

Im a nerd about this stuff and I havent seen a single other "all-in-one" product that beats the 5% product.

 

[Fullyrebilt]

There are some "support essentials" in there,... I also see several things missing that could be there.

The nattokinase in there comes from soy, and over 95% of soy is gmo, and polluted with glyphosate (Round-Up) so Ill pass on this and stick to my 5% Nation Liver & Organ Defender.

Im a nerd about this stuff and I havent seen a single other "all-in-one" product that beats the 5% product.

I just looked up that organ liver support that you were talking about it looks pretty damn good I might have to get

 

[ruffus]

Not the product i would buy. COQ10 is best taken with some fat/meal for better absorption. And natto is best taken on an empty stomach to get as much to pass through quickly as the longer it is in the stomach more is broken down and becomes useless. And that is what i have read lately. I would think the B vit's are better with a meal as well. But haven't looked that up.

 

[Fullyrebilt]

Not the product i would buy. COQ10 is best taken with some fat/meal for better absorption. And natto is best taken on an empty stomach to get as much to pass through quickly as the longer it is in the stomach more is broken down and becomes useless. And that is what i have read lately. I would think the B vit's are better with a meal as well. But haven't looked that up.

Now is this supplements that you're mentioning something that you would take on an oral cycle or just in general for a good organ support

 

[JS17]

Glyphosate in large doses way more than we would consume from any food is linked to cancer. even water in large enough doses is poisonous. The dose makes the poison.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

Chemix is solid

People make fun of this kid bc they say he looks like a liberal crackhead (im not saying that bc I have no issue with him) but I see why they say that.

But look at Patrick Arnold. Guy doesn't even lift and he created a "clear' anabolic steroid that no chemist or scientist on the Earth could create or detect for a long time. He has never competed and never could.

It's odd to me that people think a person creating or inventing compounds or drugs or anything else have to be jacked out of their mind. Its a bodybuilding mentality and it's stupid at the least. I have seen guys involved in making viagra and cialis and GLP-1s and they are 150lb guys wearing lab coats and they have ugly wives and they make a decent amount of money and end up buying Toyota Priuses and other shitty cars. And we think because they aren't 220lbs and benching 500lbs they are clueless.

Its just the opposite actually.

 

[GrindingGray]

Chemix is solid

People make fun of this kid bc they say he looks like a liberal crackhead (im not saying that bc I have no issue with him) but I see why they say that.

But look at Patrick Arnold. Guy doesn't even lift and he created a "clear' anabolic steroid that no chemist or scientist on the Earth could create or detect for a long time. He has never competed and never could.

It's odd to me that people think a person creating or inventing compounds or drugs or anything else have to be jacked out of their mind. Its a bodybuilding mentality and it's stupid at the least. I have seen guys involved in making viagra and cialis and GLP-1s and they are 150lb guys wearing lab coats and they have ugly wives and they make a decent amount of money and end up buying Toyota Priuses and other shitty cars. And we think because they aren't 220lbs and benching 500lbs they are clueless.

Its just the opposite actually.

I follow him on IG and respect the fact that most of what he says is based on actual studies, in fact he just made a post about why you should take T4 before bed and based it off of actual research. I agree that the rainbow hair and lip ring can be a turn-off but he actually trained at the same gym as me about 6 years ago and at the time he definitely wasn’t small. I think he’s recently decided to get his PhD and focus on building his company.

 

[JS17]

Chemix is solid

People make fun of this kid bc they say he looks like a liberal crackhead (im not saying that bc I have no issue with him) but I see why they say that.

But look at Patrick Arnold. Guy doesn't even lift and he created a "clear' anabolic steroid that no chemist or scientist on the Earth could create or detect for a long time. He has never competed and never could.

It's odd to me that people think a person creating or inventing compounds or drugs or anything else have to be jacked out of their mind. Its a bodybuilding mentality and it's stupid at the least. I have seen guys involved in making viagra and cialis and GLP-1s and they are 150lb guys wearing lab coats and they have ugly wives and they make a decent amount of money and end up buying Toyota Priuses and other shitty cars. And we think because they aren't 220lbs and benching 500lbs they are clueless.

It’s just the opposite actually.

Gurilla Chemist is pretty jacked or atleast he used to be. I like him. I’ve used his gda and have recommended it in the past to people

 

[GYMnTONIC]

A great mind I learned from is Dan Duchaine. He's from the 80s and 90s and half the guys here have no clue who he is, or that he is responsible for a significant amount of current knowledge on anabolics and suppz we know

Now he was prob one of the most influential people in the world on bodybuilding drugs, etc, etc. And you might not even know he worked out

Look at Chris Aceto. Guys a phenomenal coach and I know 18 year olds built better then him.

It's a weird concept in this industry to judge actual nutritionists and scientists and chemists by their physiques.

like Jay fucking cutler is gonna create some new steroid that the feds can't detect.

It shows how as much as I love our Industry it can attract bro science and stupidity.

Just like how Jay can post a picture of muscletech L-leucine and say I took this new product and gained 20lbs of muscle in 30 days. And mother fuckers buy it. LOL

 

[Meetketchup]

Under dosed in some important areas in my opinion. Not a fan of these all in one products for just that reason.

 

[Battousai]

buying Toyota Priuses

 

[Battousai]

Under dosed in some important areas in my opinion. Not a fan of these all in one products for just that reason.

Me either. I like to control my dosages of individual supplements and it usually ends being cheaper too.

 

[ruffus]

Now is this supplements that you're mentioning something that you would take on an oral cycle or just in general for a good organ support

I would not take it at all. I like to take things for as close to optimal absorption as i can. Other wise to get the same effects i would need to take more for the same effect and that is just more wear and tear over the decades to deal with. I look long term at most everything i do. And i get most all those things in either a multi or individual caps/powders.