MG vs MG, what’s is best for performance?

[BBruce]

What do you guys think is better for strength/performance:
500mg Test or 250mg Test/250mg of something else?

If training/diet/rest is exactly the same, what would give you the most strength in 10 weeks?

I was thinking that it’s always fun to do cycles with different drugs but does it really matter if the mg is the same? 500mg of Test might be the “healthiest” and if it gives us the same (about) results as 250/250 Deca (for an example, it could be any drug of your liking), why even put our bodies through the extra stress?

I’m not trying to debate anyone, I’m just curious.

 

[ruffus]

I found the size of the dose mattered more then the compound(s).

 

[Cypher]

250 mg of Test with 175–200 mg of NPP?

Or Mast for the CNS effects, and I’ve heard DHB can provide a similar benefit. I’m just not fully sold on it due to concerns about potential liver toxicity.

 

[sepknight]

there is no steroid more useful per mg than trenbolone. 250mg of trenbolone will absolutely yield better physique results than 750mg of testosterone.

 

[Cypher]

there is no steroid more useful per mg than trenbolone. 250mg of trenbolone will absolutely yield better physique results than 750mg of testosterone.

Yep.

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

For strength and performance, I would run 300 Test / 200 Deca combo before I run 500 Test by itself. Strictly Personal opinion, but the two options would yield vastly different results with the 300/200 combo being the superior option. What "strength and performance" benefits you gain with a second compound exceed anything lost in the reduction of Test.

Its basically a question of is 250mg of Test superior than 250mg of another compound. No. Its not.

 

[Wardamn]

For strength, Tren, Anadrol, or Superdrol.

 

[Vision]

This might be a very unpopular opinion, beside adding MORE compounds, while using say 500mg of testosterone.. I personally feel that something that will facilitate in SPEEDY rest and recovery on top of an already structured dialed in nutritional intake and structured rest schedule, this will bring even faster and greater gains with PERFORMANCE...

TB500 is very underrated, while it's not a muscle building agent, which we all know. It will accelerated and facilitate returns by indirect mechanism of action.

I'm strictly speaking growth, recovery, and performance. STRENGTH will obviously come with that, at a rate that MAY not be risk vs reward with something that will add to much strength to fast, where injuries may occur (orals) or harsh oils.

Test,NPP with TB500 for 10 weeks. Performance and recovery city.

Longevity and health..

Just my 0.02

(Sorry, I'm shell shocked when it comes to injuries)

 

[Astro95]

You said strength & performance. I don’t get any performance benefits from any dose of Test, EQ however it’s a whole other ball game. Stamina is greatly improved and fatigue remains low after extensive physical activity. Guess it depends which you value most. I hear DHB is good for strength, Tren is as well, but that hinders your cardiovascular performance, so that’s a no go. NPP is also good can also see its benefits quickly if it ain’t it, pull quickly. Orals are good too for strength, but 10 weeks on the stuff idk about that. I’d personally go with Test and something else if the total load is higher than 500mg, if 500mg is the cap probably all test.

 

[AA Solutions]

You said performance, but then "the most strength in 10 weeks"

So, Tren, Halo, Anadrol imo. Not saying they are necessarily the best options though

 

[Cypher]

Test and Tbol for endurance and performance—what do you think?

 

[Vee]

Test. Test is best

 

[Vision]

Test and Tbol for endurance and performance—what do you think?

Bingo bango!

 

[AR-15]

Test and Tbol for endurance and performance—what do you think?

Bbruce is a real deal fighter. Last pic I saw his cardio will be just fine. Add Tren to the Test and Tbol and you’re gonna be a fucking machine.

That’s been my new favorite cycle for awhile now.

Also I understand what he’s asking and I think there’s a time and a place for a test only cycle and it’s not for gaining strength and performance. Just my opinion though.

 

[Astro95]

Bbruce is a real deal fighter. Last pic I saw his cardio will be just fine. Add Tren to the Test and Tbol and you’re gonna be a fucking machine.

That’s been my new favorite cycle for awhile now.

Also I understand what he’s asking and I think there’s a time and a place for a test only cycle and it’s not for gaining strength and performance. Just my opinion though.

You don’t gas on tren?

 

[AR-15]

You don’t gas on tren?

Yes absolutely but it’s not enough to cause me grief. I can do 30 plus minutes when I’m conditioned with or without Tren. I mean I condition for 30 minutes but in reality only go 15 at the most anymore. There’s definitely room to slide a bit on the gas tank.

Obviously we are all different but like I said I’ve seen pics of Bbruce. He’s not gonna gas out but definitely would try it first just to be safe. Hiccups are what kills me with Tren. Literally 7/8/9 days straight multiple times. Lol

 

[Big_Jimmy434]

Help me out @BBruce because I read those question completely different. I didnt think you were asking what is a good combo, I thought you were asking will a combination of compounds, at equivalent milligrams, provide the same result as a test only at the same milligram. If so, then why even add the second compound. Is that the question?

For example
500mg test vs. 250T / 250 Deca
500mg test vs. 250 T / 250 Tren
500mg Test vs. 250 Test / 250 Whatever
Etc.

 

[Cypher]

Add Tren to the Test and Tbol and you’re gonna be a fucking machine.

 

[Wardamn]

You said strength & performance. I don’t get any performance benefits from any dose of Test, EQ however it’s a whole other ball game. Stamina is greatly improved and fatigue remains low after extensive physical activity. Guess it depends which you value most. I hear DHB is good for strength, Tren is as well, but that hinders your cardiovascular performance, so that’s a no go. NPP is also good can also see its benefits quickly if it ain’t it, pull quickly. Orals are good too for strength, but 10 weeks on the stuff idk about that. I’d personally go with Test and something else if the total load is higher than 500mg, if 500mg is the cap probably all test.

I notice an increase in training endurance while running EQ.

 

[Astro95]

I notice an increase in training endurance while running EQ.

It’s glorious. I don’t get fatigued at all currently during training where as before I’d be huffing and puffing between sets feeling my energy going away. First noticed it at work when starting jobs and we have to get all our equipment set up. Have to hammer maybe 250-300ft of iron that has hammer unions to connect together. Anywhere from 10ft pieces down to 8, 6, 4… etc down to 6” in length so the smaller the pieces the more hammering. With 12lb sledge at least that’s what I use and it’s been a night and day difference before EQ to on. About the same endurance as if I did 30-45 minutes of cardio daily at 130 heart rate or so, while I don’t do any at the moment lol

 

[BBruce]

Help me out @BBruce because I read those question completely different. I didnt think you were asking what is a good combo, I thought you were asking will a combination of compounds, at equivalent milligrams, provide the same result as a test only at the same milligram. If so, then why even add the second compound. Is that the question?

For example
500mg test vs. 250T / 250 Deca
500mg test vs. 250 T / 250 Tren
500mg Test vs. 250 Test / 250 Whatever
Etc.

Yeah, sorry, I was just wondering if 500mg Test would be as good as 250/250 Test/Deca or Test/Mast or whatever as long as the total MG was the same. It seems like most ppl like a second drug rather than just do Test, which was my original thought.

Thank to you and everyone else that commented!

 

[BBruce]

I notice an increase in training endurance while running EQ.

I do too, not much strength unfortunately from EQ but cardio comes pretty quick

 

[Jack3d_Wabbit28]

This might be a very unpopular opinion, beside adding MORE compounds, while using say 500mg of testosterone.. I personally feel that something that will facilitate in SPEEDY rest and recovery on top of an already structured dialed in nutritional intake and structured rest schedule, this will bring even faster and greater gains with PERFORMANCE...

TB500 is very underrated, while it's not a muscle building agent, which we all know. It will accelerated and facilitate returns by indirect mechanism of action.

I'm strictly speaking growth, recovery, and performance. STRENGTH will obviously come with that, at a rate that MAY not be risk vs reward with something that will add to much strength to fast, where injuries may occur (orals) or harsh oils.

Test,NPP with TB500 for 10 weeks. Performance and recovery city.

Longevity and health..

Just my 0.02

(Sorry, I'm shell shocked when it comes to injuries)

Just finishing up this cycle. I’ve got GLOW instead and also 2iu gh. Love it. I feel like I don’t need a day off ever

 

[Jack3d_Wabbit28]

double post

 

[FearsomeCOR]

If training/diet/rest is exactly the same, what would give you the most strength in 10 weeks?

If talking just strength performance, I’d say there’s plenty that would outperform just more test at equal mgs. Adrol, tren, sdrol, mtren, halo, dbol etc

 

[Machforce1]

I’ve said this before and I guess it’s almost heresy these days to say it, but Test just isn’t the panacea for me as it seems to be for everyone else. I’ve ran it as high as a gram by itself and see absolutely zero difference between that and 300 mgs of it. Zero strength gains, weight stays the same and no extra motivation or God mode. And yes, it’s legit. Bloodwork shows it. At a 6,800 ng/dl, I don’t have any gains over and beyond when it’s 2,500 ng/dl. When I run other shit with the test, even at a low dose of it, that’s when I start seeing results.

 

[Ryandenzy]

This might be a very unpopular opinion, beside adding MORE compounds, while using say 500mg of testosterone.. I personally feel that something that will facilitate in SPEEDY rest and recovery on top of an already structured dialed in nutritional intake and structured rest schedule, this will bring even faster and greater gains with PERFORMANCE...

TB500 is very underrated, while it's not a muscle building agent, which we all know. It will accelerated and facilitate returns by indirect mechanism of action.

I'm strictly speaking growth, recovery, and performance. STRENGTH will obviously come with that, at a rate that MAY not be risk vs reward with something that will add to much strength to fast, where injuries may occur (orals) or harsh oils.

Test,NPP with TB500 for 10 weeks. Performance and recovery city.

Longevity and health..

Just my 0.02

(Sorry, I'm shell shocked when it comes to injuries)

Just about to give TB 500 a shot but dosages I hear about are all over the place. What works for you?

 

[BBruce]

If talking just strength performance, I’d say there’s plenty that would outperform just more test at equal mgs. Adrol, tren, sdrol, mtren, halo, dbol etc

Maybe that was a little short, it was just an example, I should have had clarified better. I didn’t take oral in account. I wanted ppl opinion what is actually better and are we wasting time with other drugs when we could just run more Test for pretty much the same results.

 

[BBruce]

I’ve said this before and I guess it’s almost heresy these days to say it, but Test just isn’t the panacea for me as it seems to be for everyone else. I’ve ran it as high as a gram by itself and see absolutely zero difference between that and 300 mgs of it. Zero strength gains, weight stays the same and no extra motivation or God mode. And yes, it’s legit. Bloodwork shows it. At a 6,800 ng/dl, I don’t have any gains over and beyond when it’s 2,500 ng/dl. When I run other shit with the test, even at a low dose of it, that’s when I start seeing results.

I feel the same as you Test + other steroid seems to work better than just Test alone.

 

[BBruce]

This might be a very unpopular opinion, beside adding MORE compounds, while using say 500mg of testosterone.. I personally feel that something that will facilitate in SPEEDY rest and recovery on top of an already structured dialed in nutritional intake and structured rest schedule, this will bring even faster and greater gains with PERFORMANCE...

TB500 is very underrated, while it's not a muscle building agent, which we all know. It will accelerated and facilitate returns by indirect mechanism of action.

I'm strictly speaking growth, recovery, and performance. STRENGTH will obviously come with that, at a rate that MAY not be risk vs reward with something that will add to much strength to fast, where injuries may occur (orals) or harsh oils.

Test,NPP with TB500 for 10 weeks. Performance and recovery city.

Longevity and health..

Just my 0.02

(Sorry, I'm shell shocked when it comes to injuries)

Thanks, your input is always appreciated! What’s your dosing protocol with TB?