Low dose EQ for high Test/ Deca cycle

[gsuprem3]

Has anyone used EQ for just estrogen control? If I run a “higher”dose of test 400-700mg along with Eq at a lower dose 100-300mg for estrogenic side effects. Has anyone used EQ in this way? I’m also thinking of doing a test cycle with Deca and then adding the EQ as estrogen control agent.

Any luck doing this?

Couple cycles I’m thinking
600 test 200 eq (for estrogen).
400 test 400 deca 100-200 EQ (for estrogen)

Open to other cycle suggestions with these compounds. If something worked let me know.

What do you think?

Have you had luck with lower dose EQ for estrogen control?

(I know primo and mast are better but I’m just curious about EQ.
Also EQ, Test and Deca provide 0 hair loss for me. Not the main reason I want to try it but it is a plus. )

 

[Thyak]

Following this thread cz ill be doing the same for my next cycle

 

[Nextup]

My E2 was 21 on Test E 450 and EQ 150. Ended up dialing it up to 700/300 but ended cycle before testing again. Only way to know for sure is to give it a try and test your E2.

 

[LiftandJits]

I do this. I can’t run eq very high because of how potent the estrogen control is for me. I would need to run more test. I generally run 3-400 eq to 1000 test. Right now I’m cutting and taking 500 test and 200 eq. Estro sitting at 62.

It takes a while to saturate though so I have to take some ai while I wait for that to happen.

 

[Camronmiles64]

I do this. I can’t run eq very high because of how potent the estrogen control is for me. I would need to run more test. I generally run 3-400 eq to 1000 test. Right now I’m cutting and taking 500 test and 200 eq. Estro sitting at 62.

It takes a while to saturate though so I have to take some ai while I wait for that to happen.

When should you drop the ai when using eq?

 

[LiftandJits]

I mean I think eq takes 8 weeks to fully saturate. But the ai effect might show up a little before that. You just need to keep an eye on your symptoms and get bloods to check. It really depends on the person. Bloodwork is the only way to know for sure.

 

[FearsomeCOR]

I mean if you want more mg of gear sure. If not, then you can just use ai. Goal dependent really.

If your soul goal is just e2 control then ai seems more logical, and likely going to be much easier to dial in.

 

[URYDadLeft]

I'm currently running a test, EQ, deca cycle, and it's going well. I have to keep test at least at a 2:1 ratio with the EQ to avoid crashing my estrogen.

 

[MrWhisper]

EQ works really well for me to knock down my estrogen but it also hits me hard in the production of RBC. I had a small procedure about a month after running a Test/EQ cycle of 500 Test and 250 EQ and by Hemoglobin was 20 g/dl after a 12hr water/food fast. The doc was a little concerned before the procedure and recommended I lower my trt dose or get another eval but I told him that I am at about 16-17 g/dl when I’m hydrated so he told me after the procedure I need to hydrate.
All in all I think you can use a 2:1 ratio of Test to EQ to manage estrogen effectively. Obviously bloods to confirm and dial in. Although when running Deca I like my Test a bit higher so maybe try the 400/400 and see how it goes or slightly adjust that as you go.

I also think you can use an AI but if that is something you want to omit to try the EQ route it can work but as said by someone before it may be a lil harder to dial in. Prepare yourself for a few rounds of bloodwork tho.

 

[Thyak]

I mean if you want more mg of gear sure. If not, then you can just use ai. Goal dependent really.

If your soul goal is just e2 control then ai seems more logical, and likely going to be much easier to dial in.

whats your approach when it comes to start a eq test cycle? start low and up the dose?

 

[FearsomeCOR]

whats your approach when it comes to start a eq test cycle? start low and up the dose?

Nah I just started at 600/500 test eq respectively then just got labs later to see what’s up kept me around 35 e2 so I keep my test a bit higher than eq and I be chillin usually (750/600 etc)

Everyone’s different though, just gotta try and see

 

[Thyak]

Nah I just started at 600/500 test eq respectively then just got labs later to see what’s up kept me around 35 e2 so I keep my test a bit higher than eq and I be chillin usually (750/600 etc)

Everyone’s different though, just gotta try and see

kk thank you

 

[Oakley6575]

Nah I just started at 600/500 test eq respectively then just got labs later to see what’s up kept me around 35 e2 so I keep my test a bit higher than eq and I be chillin usually (750/600 etc)

Everyone’s different though, just gotta try and see

Dang, you're lucky. I can only run my EQ and primo at like 30%-40% of my test dose or my E2 is tanked.

 

[Thyak]

Dang, you're lucky. I can only run my EQ and primo at like 30%-40% of my test dose or my E2 is tanked.

the more eq you can run instead of test is better?

 

[Oakley6575]

the more eq you can run instead of test is better?

No, test is always best IMO. It just makes running high doses harder for some if they get sides from test above a certain level.

 

[gsuprem3]

EQ works really well for me to knock down my estrogen but it also hits me hard in the production of RBC. I had a small procedure about a month after running a Test/EQ cycle of 500 Test and 250 EQ and by Hemoglobin was 20 g/dl after a 12hr water/food fast. The doc was a little concerned before the procedure and recommended I lower my trt dose or get another eval but I told him that I am at about 16-17 g/dl when I’m hydrated so he told me after the procedure I need to hydrate.
All in all I think you can use a 2:1 ratio of Test to EQ to manage estrogen effectively. Obviously bloods to confirm and dial in. Although when running Deca I like my Test a bit higher so maybe try the 400/400 and see how it goes or slightly adjust that as you go.

I also think you can use an AI but if that is something you want to omit to try the EQ route it can work but as said by someone before it may be a lil harder to dial in. Prepare yourself for a few rounds of bloodwork tho.

Awesome thank you. EQ isn’t my favorite compound. I ran it years ago when people didn’t realize it killed E. I mean you’d see a few people here in there talk about it killing estrogen if you REALLY scoured the Internet looking, but for the most part nobody knew. Back when front loading it was the thing to do. Absolutely destroyed my E and my hemoglobin level went sky high. I posted it on another form years ago and most people told me it doesn’t affect E “your test is too low” (it was at 500mg lol) It’s funny how things change. But anyways I was just curious about it. I run longer cycles. AIs make me nauseous for some reason. Literally no other medication does this. So I thought about giving EQ another shot after 10 years of writing it off. I just know I’ll need to donate blood every couple months. (Or when blood work starts to show high normal). I’m not dead set on trying it I just thought I’d ask around. See what other people have done. Thanks

 

[gsuprem3]

I do this. I can’t run eq very high because of how potent the estrogen control is for me. I would need to run more test. I generally run 3-400 eq to 1000 test. Right now I’m cutting and taking 500 test and 200 eq. Estro sitting at 62.

It takes a while to saturate though so I have to take some ai while I wait for that to happen.

Thanks man! Exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate you

 

[gsuprem3]

I mean if you want more mg of gear sure. If not, then you can just use ai. Goal dependent really.

If your soul goal is just e2 control then ai seems more logical, and likely going to be much easier to dial in.

Only reason to try is because my AI makes me nauseous. Like for the entire day. And if I take it at night I wake up with heartburn. It’s from a doctor also. It’s the only medication that has ever done this. I’m not sensitive to anything regarding my stomach. Spicy food, other medications, alcohol (when not on cycle), nothing ever bothers it but my AI. It’s annoying

 

[FearsomeCOR]

Dang, you're lucky. I can only run my EQ and primo at like 30%-40% of my test dose or my E2 is tanked.

Blessed

 

[MrWhisper]

Awesome thank you. EQ isn’t my favorite compound. I ran it years ago when people didn’t realize it killed E. I mean you’d see a few people here in there talk about it killing estrogen if you REALLY scoured the Internet looking, but for the most part nobody knew. Back when front loading it was the thing to do. Absolutely destroyed my E and my hemoglobin level went sky high. I posted it on another form years ago and most people told me it doesn’t affect E “your test is too low” (it was at 500mg lol) It’s funny how things change. But anyways I was just curious about it. I run longer cycles. AIs make me nauseous for some reason. Literally no other medication does this. So I thought about giving EQ another shot after 10 years of writing it off. I just know I’ll need to donate blood every couple months. (Or when blood work starts to show high normal). I’m not dead set on trying it I just thought I’d ask around. See what other people have done. Thanks

Yeah buddy!!! Nah I think EQ has its place and if AI causes digestive issues then it’s a great option to look at rn. Just make sure you are cautious and do the bloodwork to make sure you’re not crushing your E2 and also turning your blood to syrup. Good luck brother!