Legal stuff

[MonsterMaker]

Is there any kind of legal prohormones or what ever they are called that I could tell my doctor I am taking? Something that would basically mimic what gear does in the body? So that I can have him monitor my health with out telling him I’m breaking the law?

Things that would raise testosterone levels and maybe even some orals that would affect liver values?

 

[Rot-Iron66]

I think the 1-Andro and 4-Andro's that are still around can have similar effects.
He/she wont know any better anyways, so 'legal-prohormones' might be enough to tell them.

 

[FM19]

Honestly, very very few physicians know the difference in all the different AAS compounds ... so for the vast majority, if they even knew you were on tren, superdrol, adrol, DNP, etc. they wouldn't know the effects or interactions to even try and adjust things ... so they typically just manage from a general sense via standard bloodwork, blood pressure, etc.

That said, if you just wanted to say it to let them know your running 'stuff' ... hexadrone, d-drol, m-sten, dmz, etc. as they are grey market items (as far as I know).

Are you on doctor prescribed TRT?

 

[maxmuscle1]

Not advice of any kind but I know someone who told their PCP, they used Sarms or Testofen w Some Nugenix Gh booster . If they ask about liver (tell them you take 600mg ibuprofen daily or 2g Tylenol back and forth for muscle/joint /or back/neck pain.

 

[dnewell2004]

I just straight up told mine I'm taking self prescribed TRT since insurance wouldn't cover it.

 

[Rot-Iron66]

I just straight up told mine I'm taking self prescribed TRT since insurance wouldn't cover it.

I find it best not to tell anyone anything, including Dr's. Nothing is personal/protected anymore. I dont advise admitting to a felony to anyone.
That's just me though... Most are probably safe, I just trust no one with anything involving personal data...

 

[Multislacking]

I find it best not to tell anyone anything, including Dr's. Nothing is personal/protected anymore. I dont advise admitting to a felony to anyone.
That's just me though... Most are probably safe, I just trust no one with anything involving personal data...

^ This. Telling most docs you use aas is like telling them you use cocaine and want to monitor your health markers. They're just gonna tell you to quit, you're gonna die, etc, etc.

 

[Swole_Wes]

I find it best not to tell anyone anything, including Dr's. Nothing is personal/protected anymore. I dont advise admitting to a felony to anyone.
That's just me though... Most are probably safe, I just trust no one with anything involving personal data...

I just recently found out something very interesting. I've been seeing a naturopathic doctor for the past four months. It isn't covered by my insurance provider(Kaiser) so I pay out of pocket for visits, lab work and prescriptions. To make a long story short, my naturopath has access to all my Kaiser medical records via MyChart AND Kaiser now has access to all records my naturopath uploads to MyChart. So had I admitted to being on self administered trt to my naturopath, Kaiser and my doctors would now have this info. So fuck that, I ain't telling anyone anything about my aas usage, ever

 

[AR-15]

Just tell him or her you take andro poppers and whatever other OTC shit out there making big claims about boosting test levels. Your normal PCP won’t know the difference and if you come back with your test levels at 4K he will probably be asking you what brand you been using. Lol

 

[MonsterMaker]

^ This. Telling most docs you use aas is like telling them you use cocaine and want to monitor your health markers. They're just gonna tell you to quit, you're gonna die, etc, etc.

Yeah that’s why I’m looking to bs them saying I’m taking legal supps. Just want to be able to go through my primary for blood work instead of driving 2 hours away to quest labs

 

[Multislacking]

Yeah that’s why I’m looking to bs them saying I’m taking legal supps. Just want to be able to go through my primary for blood work instead of driving 2 hours away to quest labs

Most docs have at least a little intelligence and will suspect/know something is up. Especially if you pop over 1000. It's hard to sell regular PCP's on the whole game. Be willing to bounce when they start causing issues. And if you're small enough not to have a quest, then you're probably small enough to have a limited number of docs too. Especially good ones.

 

[MonsterMaker]

Most docs have at least a little intelligence and will suspect/know something is up. Especially if you pop over 1000. It's hard to sell regular PCP's on the whole game. Be willing to bounce when they start causing issues. And if you're small enough not to have a quest, then you're probably small enough to have a limited number of docs too. Especially good ones.

In the sticks of the Midwest, small is an understatement… maybe I should just stick to doing my own labs…

Hopefully this nerve thing clears up soon though too, otherwise I just might have to come clean with them. Been almost 3 weeks since that bad shot and still hurts like a mother of a fucker

 

[Big Puppy]

why don't you wait 7-9 days after a shot before you let the doc pull bloods. that should be enough time to get the test numbers down

 

[MonsterMaker]

why don't you wait 7-9 days after a shot before you let the doc pull bloods. that should be enough time to get the test numbers down

All this just makes me think it’s not worth the hassle… just gonna pull bloods privately, atleast hormone panels, maybe get cbc through the doc between panels, anything elevated on that could be from a magnitude of things so really it’s just the hormone panels I can’t get through him…

I still think down the road though, what’s going to happen when my insurance requests a physical and he sees my testicular atrophy? I went to the walk in clinic at the end of my first cycle and he checked my nuts, and I could tell he had a “hmm” moment… and while he was checking my nuts he asked me “so you’re sure you’re not taking anything?” … and they’re only getting smaller man.

 

[Lifteatlift]

Thanks for the tip.

 

[Milford King]

All this just makes me think it’s not worth the hassle… just gonna pull bloods privately, atleast hormone panels, maybe get cbc through the doc between panels, anything elevated on that could be from a magnitude of things so really it’s just the hormone panels I can’t get through him…

I still think down the road though, what’s going to happen when my insurance requests a physical and he sees my testicular atrophy? I went to the walk in clinic at the end of my first cycle and he checked my nuts, and I could tell he had a “hmm” moment… and while he was checking my nuts he asked me “so you’re sure you’re not taking anything?” … and they’re only getting smaller man.

HCG will be your best friend. Also get some clomid to keep on hand just in case. You should have your anti - e’s and related ancillaries on hand anyway. Contact skip foursome for a great HCG protocol that will keep your nuts in good shape.

also…. I choose not to tell my doctor (if I had one) anything because I can’t risk losing insurance for the family. I haven’t found a doctor that I could trust. Some guys on here really lucked out in that department but not I.

Keep up with your labs tho. Don’t run a cycle unless you got some funds stored away for blood work.

long haul brother… long haul.