Is tamoxifen as effective as Arimidex?

[Battousai]

I use Aromasin.....When needed....
Nolvadex works just fine for me@ 10mg day.... 0 gyno.
Ive used Nolvadex for over 30 years without issues.
My E2 isnt that high on a G of test... I dont convert easily.
Most Aromasin Ive taken was 25mg a week.
NOW Ralox makes me sick AF... Bad gut....shits... you name it... Had to stop after 4 days of use @ 60mg day.

I guess I just don't understand what the point of using nolvadex is if your e2 is in range? My understanding is that nolvadex doesn't actually lower e2, just the receptors in the nipple.

 

[JC33]

I guess I just don't understand what the point of using nolvadex is if your e2 is in range? My understanding is that nolvadex doesn't actually lower e2, just the receptors in the nipple.

Probably more as a prophylactic. Stop gyno before it starts if it jumps out of range. If I had to guess. Correct about Nolva occupying the e2 receptors. Not just in the nipple but also the brain and other areas.

 

[391007]

.25 on inj day and day after... interesting

but what I'm reading in this thread is that maybe Arimidex isn't really needed... unless you're getting puffy nips or blood work shows a need

I get bitch tits to fucken easily.
Some times I think someone is playing a practical joke on me and I’m injecting estrogen.

I was going to keep breaking that tiny pill into 4 but going back to half’s. .5mg 2x week. 24 hours after injection of test cyp so I catch the spike towards the high side.

If any one knows this I be grate full I upped my test cyp to 500 a week with mastron propionate 300mg a week. Which will be replaced buy mastron e Esther.

At the dosages of 500mg a week of test a week if I take two 1mg a week a day after injection in stead of .5 so I don’t have to crush a pill in Half has anyone crashed their estrogen levels and get the added benefit of not growing tits?

 

[391007]

I guess I just don't understand what the point of using nolvadex is if your e2 is in range? My understanding is that nolvadex doesn't actually lower e2, just the receptors in the nipple.

That’s exactly what it does.
Or if you did get gyno it may shrink the gyno and now that you take an anti aromatizing agent it should stay reduced.

I been on Ralo since Wednesday this week taking 120mg for 10-12 days then 60mg 5 days then 60mg EOD until done with it and I know it’s not going to fully remove it but I take a 40percent reduction. I be on anti estrogen agents to prevent it from the test based compounds. I also be on Mastron E which will keep the ratio so the androgens will win the competition to my chest glands just got to figure the dose sing out so it works well
And if it works out well I would like to not take the traditional anti estrogen compounds.

For me as far as estrogen receptor blockers I find Ralo has less side effects the novedex.

But I only been on it 5days at 120mg a week.

 

[JC33]

I get bitch tits to fucken easily.
Some times I think someone is playing a practical joke on me and I’m injecting estrogen.

I was going to keep breaking that tiny pill into 4 but going back to half’s. .5mg 2x week. 24 hours after injection of test cyp so I catch the spike towards the high side.

If any one knows this I be grate full I upped my test cyp to 500 a week with mastron propionate 300mg a week. Which will be replaced buy mastron e Esther.

At the dosages of 500mg a week of test a week if I take two 1mg a week a day after injection in stead of .5 so I don’t have to crush a pill in Half has anyone crashed their estrogen levels and get the added benefit of not growing tits?

2 mgs of adex is more than enough to manage e2 in most men taking 500 test. I aromatize like a motherfucker and need roughly 4.5mg adex a week on a gram of test to stay around 60 e2 and that’s with 300-400 masteron in the equation as well. Hope this helps. But, crashed estrogen feels terrible. Broken dick, broken brain.

 

[391007]

Only use my novladex for drol and pct . I never use armidex at all I like aromasin better

Your. 1000 right. As soon as I’m done with it I’m making the change from Arimidex to Aromasin. Arimidex to fucken easy to make a mistake.

 

[391007]

I use Aromasin.....When needed....
Nolvadex works just fine for me@ 10mg day.... 0 gyno.
Ive used Nolvadex for over 30 years without issues.
My E2 isnt that high on a G of test... I dont convert easily.
Most Aromasin Ive taken was 25mg a week.
NOW Ralox makes me sick AF... Bad gut....shits... you name it... Had to stop after 4 days of use @ 60mg day.

With the Ralo when did you noticed the not feeling well part and how much where you on cause I’m taking it now ?

 

[391007]

2 mgs of adex is more than enough to manage e2 in most men taking 500 test. I aromatize like a motherfucker and need roughly 4.5mg adex a week on a gram of test to stay around 60 e2 and that’s with 300-400 masteron in the equation as well. Hope this helps. But, crashed estrogen feels terrible. Broken dick, broken brain.

Thank you big time for the advice cause it makes life easy just to be able to take the pill.

Such a tiny fucken pill. Yeah I’m prone to growing tits also.

Doing Ralo now and it’s helping.

 

[391007]

They didnt know better in the early 90's to remove the whole gland... Dr. Blau was the one who started removing the entire gland and having success with it.
Most 90's mass monsters used Nolvadex as there wasnt Arimidex or Aromasin back then
95-96ish is when Aromasin @ Arimidex were put to market.... So what did all the 80's and 90's guys do? Nolvadex.

I remember those days. Today the body builders have it better cause we had the Bible of steroids. Exchanging side effects with each other.

That was it. It was trial by error that decade.

 

[391007]

Probably more as a prophylactic. Stop gyno before it starts if it jumps out of range. If I had to guess. Correct about Nolva occupying the e2 receptors. Not just in the nipple but also the brain and other areas.

My guess and it’s probally wrong.

People who started or have gyno want to completely block the breast gland hopefully get a reduction in size and then when they get the most out of it the estrogen levels in the blood are much lower and you don’t get a full blown swelling.

 

[391007]

2 mgs of adex is more than enough to manage e2 in most men taking 500 test. I aromatize like a motherfucker and need roughly 4.5mg adex a week on a gram of test to stay around 60 e2 and that’s with 300-400 masteron in the equation as well. Hope this helps. But, crashed estrogen feels terrible. Broken dick, broken brain.

1000mg of test you got to be growing like a beast. That’s fucken awsome. A great choice of compounds. Easy on kidneys liver.

 

[391007]

.25 on inj day and day after... interesting

but what I'm reading in this thread is that maybe Arimidex isn't really needed... unless you're getting puffy nips or blood work shows a need

I read some comments and they found the right ratio to have the androgens from the DHT derived drugs off set the estrogen in the blood. Which is great, much better way to do it.

I’m going to try what these guys are doing. They say start 1 to 1 from what i recall but double check.

So if your on 500mg test you could try 500 mg of mastron gel your blood work keep the records and see if you can figure it out.

There are some really smart guys I think his name is Seattlesbest who I think does it.

 

[391007]

Nips aren't sore in the least and I've never (in 10+ years of PEDs) had an issue with nips/gyno. Don't know about E2 rn... need to get blood work-up soon for sure.

So no reason for an AI unless blood work shows a need... but what about my HAIR! The bald spot is growing (or ISN'T growing depending on how you look at it)

I went through the same fucken thing. I lost the fight.

The anti dandruff shsmpoo Nizorall 2Percent prescription strength or the 1 percent over the counter.

Use it two times of day. I started too late and wasn’t consistent with it.

Maybe it will help out. I met and have a great girfiend. I’m 47 she’s 24. She’s a psychiatrist intern. Im just an asshole that owned night clubs and consults for them.

May hair loss meant nothing to her.

Look all of us who take any of these compounds your going to most likely loose your hair.

A lot of us will loose are hair with out the compounds.



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[391007]

Duplicate message on my phone my bad.

 

[Bolan]

I guess I just don't understand what the point of using nolvadex is if your e2 is in range? My understanding is that nolvadex doesn't actually lower e2, just the receptors in the nipple.

EXACTLY... I have Gyno... Its old gyno... but its controlled through nolvadex... my estrogen is always in the middle of the range and right now its lower. My e2 isnt out of control.... I have gyno since the 90s and If I dont control it.. it dont look tight.

 

[391007]

EXACTLY... I have Gyno... Its old gyno... but its controlled through nolvadex... my estrogen is always in the middle of the range and right now its lower. My e2 isnt out of control.... I have gyno since the 90s and If I dont control it.. it dont look tight.

Me to your not alone. Every one from the 90s has it and managing like us or had the surgery.

The 90s changed everything and people put size on. But getting gyno was a problem for us all. Maybe a few lucky ones but most part we all got it.

 

[rayschray12]

Had to break out the letro a few years ago for gyno....definitely does the job...but fucking crushed my esto..brutal. Took about a month to come back into range. Been using Aromasin ever since with no issues.

 

[391007]

Had to break out the letro a few years ago for gyno....definitely does the job...but fucking crushed my esto..brutal. Took about a month to come back into range. Been using Aromasin ever since with no issues.

Gyno is the hardest fucken thing to manage from these compounds. Its like our body is fucking with us.