IGF-1 Levels

[Bathman316]

Any thoughts on these levels? I've been using 4iu at night before bed, fasted 2 hours prior. My fasted morning blood sugar ranges 98-105 so I'm happy with that. I feel damn good and sleeping like a baby at 44. This is @Platinumpharm gh. I hope they do run a sale! @JJB1

 

[JJB1]

Any thoughts on these levels? I've been using 4iu at night before bed, fasted 2 hours prior. My fasted morning blood sugar ranges 98-105 so I'm happy with that. I feel damn good and sleeping like a baby at 44. This is @Platinumpharm gh. I hope they do run a sale! @JJB1

Whoa!!!! It usually take 10ius/day to get an IGF1 score of 600! Your body is really responding great to the HGH!!!
Holy Moly!!!!

 

[Cage99]

Impressive!!!!! My baseline at 40 was below 100 and I was off GH for years. Just recently got back on titrating up. Shooting for 6-8iu, but currently lethargy and sleep issues have me stopped at 4iu. I’m jealous of that score though!

Cage

 

[chadmack282]

WoW !!
Thats the highest # i have seen per IU!

 

[j2048b]

Any thoughts on these levels? I've been using 4iu at night before bed, fasted 2 hours prior. My fasted morning blood sugar ranges 98-105 so I'm happy with that. I feel damn good and sleeping like a baby at 44. This is @Platinumpharm gh. I hope they do run a sale! @JJB1

Yer the devil!! run!!

Awesome igf tho!


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[FearsomeCOR]

What’s a1c? Any post prandial readings? 98-105 fasted consistently wouldn’t be very pleased with

 

[Bathman316]

What’s a1c? Any post prandial readings? 98-105 fasted consistently wouldn’t be very pleased with

A1c was 5.6 most recently. Post prandial readings range 87-92 11/2-2hrs after eating. I'm going to dial back my carbs as I'm sure that will help with my overall glucose levels, only time my numbers are near 105 is when I wake up. Going to add berbine as directed by @Nood.

 

[McPriimate]

That's a great response to GH, for sure

Question for you - what IGF-1 level are you targeting? Just wondering if you're going to target a specific number and change your dosing based on the BW. Also curious what your goals with GH are (bulking, recomp, replacement dose, etc.) and if that matters to the dose you're gonna run

Always interested in hearing how others approach dosing and using BW to adjust it

 

[Glycomann]

A1c was 5.6 most recently. Post prandial readings range 87-92 11/2-2hrs after eating. I'm going to dial back my carbs as I'm sure that will help with my overall glucose levels, only time my numbers are near 105 is when I wake up. Going to add berbine as directed by @Nood.

Adding in Berberine knocked mine down 10-15%. those IGF-1 numbers would push glucose number up some.

 

[Bathman316]

Great numbers! One question: Did you inject the 4 IU and then immediately go for a bloodwork? I mean, that's the best proof for you of how good the quality of your product is. Just out of curiosity. Or does that not play such a role with IGF-1, since it always remains stable in this range when consuming HGH?

Thank you! I test almost all my gear with jano. I only take my gh at bedtime full dosage, I didnt do anything different except fast in the am for blood work because it was also for a cbc and metabolic panel. You're talking about an hgh serum test which I've personally found to be inaccurate, I care and want to see what my igf serum levels are.

 

[Fat Mike01]

Thats crazy. You gonna keep those levels that high long term? From all that i have read, thats not good.

 

[Bathman316]

That's a great response to GH, for sure

Question for you - what IGF-1 level are you targeting? Just wondering if you're going to target a specific number and change your dosing based on the BW. Also curious what your goals with GH are (bulking, recomp, replacement dose, etc.) and if that matters to the dose you're gonna run

Always interested in hearing how others approach dosing and using BW to adjust it

Thank you brother. I really didn't have a target level. I tested my numbers two months ago and it came back at 467. I was only taking 2.5iu at the time. My goals have been recomp, I let myself go like a fat fuck and in the new year, I said fuck it let's go and see what I can do. Got on gh in late July, now I'm 225lbs around 10%bf. Been a hell of a year. I'll stay at my current dose and back off to 2iu in the new year. Want to continue to shred. What about you?

 

[Bathman316]

Thats crazy. You gonna keep those levels that high long term? From all that i have read, thats not good.

I'll drop to 2iu in the new year. I still test every 6 weeks because if the igf go any higher I'd cut back to 3iu.

 

[McPriimate]

Thank you brother. I really didn't have a target level. I tested my numbers two months ago and it came back at 467. I was only taking 2.5iu at the time. My goals have been recomp, I let myself go like a fat fuck and in the new year, I said fuck it let's go and see what I can do. Got on gh in late July, now I'm 225lbs around 10%bf. Been a hell of a year. I'll stay at my current dose and back off to 2iu in the new year. Want to continue to shred. What about you?

Awesome work! 225 and 10% is a pretty sharp rebound from what you called a “fat fuck” phase lol. Congrats

I’m currently in a lean gain run and am running 4iU which keeps my IGF just above top of range, which is fine for me. Trying to aid recovery and help keep my BF below 10% while I slowly gain (real aim is 12% or so by end of cycle, but we’ll see if I can handle losing abs after just rediscovering them lol).

When I go back to TRT or cut, I’ll keep it in but likely just upper quartile/third of normal for TRT. Maybe top of range or just over for a cut. My baseline is high 150’s pretty repeatedly (dieting, maintaining, on TRT or when I was low T before TRT - weirdly stable).

So many things influence IGF levels that I think it’s hard to use it to titrate dose super accurately with PEDs on board, imo (diet and E2 levels and all the other stuff…). But for me, I definitely get a sense of iU to IGF effect in different phases (gain cycle vs cut cycle vs HRT (HRT as it has GH not just test, but aiming for replacement levels)). So, while not super accurate I’ve found it a good rough gauge.

Now, whether IGF levels are a rough gauge of how GH is working is a whole other can of worms lol. But it’s as good a proxy as we have I think

Always curious how other people approach it, as I’m always trying to learn. Appreciate your response!


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[Bathman316]

Awesome work! 225 and 10% is a pretty sharp rebound from what you called a “fat fuck” phase lol. Congrats

I’m currently in a lean gain run and am running 4iU which keeps my IGF just above top of range, which is fine for me. Trying to aid recovery and help keep my BF below 10% while I slowly gain (real aim is 12% or so by end of cycle, but we’ll see if I can handle losing abs after just rediscovering them lol).

When I go back to TRT or cut, I’ll keep it in but likely just upper quartile/third of normal for TRT. Maybe top of range or just over for a cut. My baseline is high 150’s pretty repeatedly (dieting, maintaining, on TRT or when I was low T before TRT - weirdly stable).

So many things influence IGF levels that I think it’s hard to use it to titrate dose super accurately with PEDs on board, imo (diet and E2 levels and all the other stuff…). But for me, I definitely get a sense of iU to IGF effect in different phases (gain cycle vs cut cycle vs HRT (HRT as it has GH not just test, but aiming for replacement levels)). So, while not super accurate I’ve found it a good rough gauge.

Now, whether IGF levels are a rough gauge of how GH is working is a whole other can of worms lol. But it’s as good a proxy as we have I think

Always curious how other people approach it, as I’m always trying to learn. Appreciate your response!


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Absolutely, this is what the forum is for. I agree everyone responds differently, blood work and other hormones play a factor in igf levels and even diet. Keep up the good work @McPriimate

 

[9Major Open]

Holy!!!!! at 4iu's im just around 300-400

 

[eazy_]

nice. that is a great number.

 

[REHH]

Great numbers! One question: Did you inject the 4 IU and then immediately go for a bloodwork? I mean, that's the best proof for you of how good the quality of your product is. Just out of curiosity. Or does that not play such a role with IGF-1, since it always remains stable in this range when consuming HGH?

That’s completely wrong protocol for blood hgh serum levels. And you’re wrong about serum being the best method to test quality. Don’t put bad information on the forum. Deleted

 

[tommygunz]

A1c was 5.6 most recently. Post prandial readings range 87-92 11/2-2hrs after eating. I'm going to dial back my carbs as I'm sure that will help with my overall glucose levels, only time my numbers are near 105 is when I wake up. Going to add berbine as directed by @Nood.

FYI A1C of 5.7 is pre diabetic.

 

[REHH]

That’s completely wrong protocol for blood hgh serum levels. And you’re wrong about serum being the best method to test quality. Don’t put bad information on the forum. Deleted

The protocol for hgh blood serum is
10iu in the shoulder intramuscular not subq
Blood draw 3 hrs after injection in the morning on an empty stomach.
Even when you follow this exactly the results vary person to person
With blood hgh and igf both you need baselines to see how much it raises and previous testing to compare results to.

 

[CardioQueenD]

Those are great results! Sounds like you've found a good source and protocol that works well for you.

 

[LeanMachineAsh]

Those are impressive IGF-1 levels on just 4iu! Definitely a good response. Makes me almost want to give Platinumpharm a try.

 

[REHH]

Those are impressive IGF-1 levels on just 4iu! Definitely a good response. Makes me almost want to give Platinumpharm a try.

Mighty Mouse is the king of igf scores here, I think I’ve seen 700-800 on some his tests.
Mighty Mouse proved to the community how unreliable igf testing is without baseline and previous tests for comparison from the same individual.
There were guys here who would call some source hgh bunk with igf scores in the 200s then they would send it to MM to test and he’d get 600-800 igf off the same shit.

 

[Bathman316]

FYI A1C of 5.7 is pre diabetic.

Yes unfortunately, appreciate the input. Running berberine now and seeing how it helps
or I may lower to 3iu. Also the hand numbness has been rough in the am.

 

[Bathman316]

Mighty Mouse is the king of igf scores here, I think I’ve seen 700-800 on some his tests.
Mighty Mouse proved to the community how unreliable igf testing is without baseline and previous tests for comparison from the same individual.
There were guys here who would call some source hgh bunk with igf scores in the 200s then they would send it to MM to test and he’d get 600-800 igf off the same shit.

Absolutely, my base line was 124. 2-2.5iu I jumped to 478. Now at 4iu it climbed higher to 666. About to be running all IL for the next year .

 

[MufasaTheKing]

A1c was 5.6 most recently. Post prandial readings range 87-92 11/2-2hrs after eating. I'm going to dial back my carbs as I'm sure that will help with my overall glucose levels, only time my numbers are near 105 is when I wake up. Going to add berbine as directed by @Nood.

Try adding berberine with Ceylon cinnamon

 

[REHH]

Absolutely, my base line was 124. 2-2.5iu I jumped to 478. Now at 4iu it climbed higher to 666. About to be running all IL for the next year .

You’re an exceptional responder like MM. Tje highest mine ever get is 300s and my baseline is around 180

 

[FearsomeCOR]

Yes unfortunately, appreciate the input. Running berberine now and seeing how it helps
or I may lower to 3iu. Also the hand numbness has been rough in the am.

Taking any taurine or ala?

And yeah I asked your a1c cause I assumed it was pretty rough given your fasted glucose readings.

 

[Bathman316]

You’re an exceptional responder like MM. Tje highest mine ever get is 300s and my baseline is around

Taking any taurine or ala?

And yeah I asked your a1c cause I assumed it was pretty rough given your fasted glucose readings.

Yes around 3000mg of Taurine daily. Never used or know much about ala.

 

[Bathman316]

You’re an exceptional responder like MM. Tje highest mine ever get is 300s and my baseline is around 180

Ty. I wonder how high is too high with igf. Diet and everything else is on point. I was going to go to 5iu but with the side effects I have... I don't think the return on more would make sense.