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Help with sexual dysfunction on test and primo.

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Difficulty getting and maintaining an erection and almost impossible to orgasm.

Current protocol is test cyp 400 a week and primo 200 a week split up and injected daily. Also 2.5iu gh daily. Test primo and gh are from Marathon. Also added hcg at 250iu three times a week and 6mg aromasin on days I inject hcg two weeks ago to help with penis sensitivity.

Week 3-4 were pretty good. Dick was basically hard all the time, random throughout the day and waking me up in the middle of the night. Libido through the roof but difficulty reaching orgasm was already starting. This is pretty normal for me on test. Even happens to a mild degree on trt levels.

The super confusing part to me is every time I’ve slightly increased my dose of either test or primo I’ll get maybe 4-5 days of dick being hard all day agin and crazy high libido. Blood test showed e2 in the high 50’s a few weeks ago which I know isn’t really high but my body didn’t really like that much. That much e2 gives me burning nipples which has almost gone away since starting the aromasin.

Getting another blood test on Monday to see what’s going on. I’m definitely curious to see what prolactin is doing. If anyone has any insight or personal experience or what else to add to the blood test to try to figure this out would be greatly appreciated.

I guess the good news in a way is learning that primo doesn’t have much of an ai effect on me so I can run it higher.
 
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Definitely started before aromasin. I always get slight dysfunction on test. I was suprised to see my estrogen about where it’s is without the primo. I’ve had burning nipple sensations since about the end of week one. I only started the 6mg aromasin once I started the hcg. Offer the first few injections it seemed like it was even high which I know hcg can do. Burning nipple sensation got a bit worse. The aromasin has just about got my nipples feeling normal. I feel pretty decent other than the sexual issues.
 
Cypher said:
Bro, I think you plummeted your dick with the Primo and Aromasin.
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Is primo known to do that? This is my first time running primo and at 300 test 100 primo it had no effect on e2 at all. I upped to 400 test and 200 primo and things got better for a while then right back to where I am now. My body hates steroids haha
 
Tattooguy8 said:
Haven’t ran either yet. Recently picked up a bunch of mast from marathon. Was gonna run that next to see how it goes.
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Out of all the compounds besides Test, that’s probably the one I respond to best and enjoy the most in terms of overall effects with minimal sides.

Doesn’t really solve the issue you’re dealing with, but everyone seems to react differently to Primo when it comes to E2 levels. EQ, on the other hand, seems to absolutely crush estrogen for most people.

I’ve always liked Mast mainly because of its MOA.
 
Cypher said:
Out of all the compounds besides Test, that’s probably the one I respond to best and enjoy the most in terms of overall effects with minimal sides.

Doesn’t really solve the issue you’re dealing with, but everyone seems to react differently to Primo when it comes to E2 levels. EQ, on the other hand, seems to absolutely crush estrogen for most people.

I’ve always liked Mast mainly because of its MOA.
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What is moa?

If I understand right mast act more like a serm?

Based on all the info you have do you really think my e2 is gone? I still get burning nipples that kind of come and go. Much better since the aromasin. I would be suprised to find my e2 crashed even with the hcg but who knows.

The hcg has seemed to help with being able to orgasm, just weird with the a half hard dick.
 
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Cypher said:
MOA is mechanism of action.

I have no idea but it sounds like you potentially crashed it.

Sounds like everything is out of whack my dude.
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Yeah I hear ya. Crazy thing is I feel pretty good otherwise and been making decent gains in the gym. Gonna be a tough wait for sensitive e2. Uuhhhh.

Thanks for the help by the way.
 
Tattooguy8 said:
Yeah I hear ya. Crazy thing is I feel pretty good otherwise and been making decent gains in the gym. Gonna be a tough wait for sensitive e2. Uuhhhh.

Thanks for the help by the way.
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I’m not sure I was much help, but if it were me, I’d drop back to a maintenance dose of testosterone and let my body get back on track so I’m feeling right again.
 
If you take a cialis or viagra do you get full mast? Thats the bro science way to test if its psychological versus physiological
 
Cypher said:
Out of all the compounds besides Test, that’s probably the one I respond to best and enjoy the most in terms of overall effects with minimal sides.

Doesn’t really solve the issue you’re dealing with, but everyone seems to react differently to Primo when it comes to E2 levels. EQ, on the other hand, seems to absolutely crush estrogen for most people.

I’ve always liked Mast mainly because of its MOA.
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And although both are DHT derivatives, mg for mg mast makes me way more horny than primo and more random boners, and anecdotally from most people I read that seems to be the case, which could help OP as well.
 
celrin321 said:
And although both are DHT derivatives, mg for mg mast makes me way more horny than primo and more random boners, and anecdotally from most people I read that seems to be the case, which could help OP as well.
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This is interesting
 
celrin321 said:
Okay super good to know if you're on cialis and a light breeze blowing into you doesn't make your dick hard something is most likely wrong with your hormone balance it's not just in your head.
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I can still get hard but it’s a little work. Definitely harder to stay hard for sure. A few weeks ago I was glass cutter status almost annoying. Crazy middle of the night and morning wood. I’m barely getting morning wood. I bet money if I upped my dose of test a bit it would come back for a few days
 
I should have said in the post I have zero sexual issues of any kind when I’m off everything. I usually just have a hard time reaching orgasm. The lifeless dick is fairly new to me.
 
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Personally, not to that extreme, but with primobolan over time sex can definitely become difficult.
Solution? Drop the primo.

You can try finding a better ratio with the test and see if things improve, but if you really want to run the cycle, you’ve gotta be aware that during that period your little buddy down there might only be useful for taking a piss :D
 
Phil's points are spot on. You probably just need to drop the primo and lower your DHT a bit for awhile.


THAT ALL SAID off the beaten path a bit here are a couple things that can and almost always help:

1) Hot wife (partner)
2) Doing drugs that make you horny with hot wife (partner) like MT2, PT 141, Oxytocin, MDMA, good weed
3) If you can't pull of number 1, then just do number 2 with who you have! (If you can't live with the one you love, honey love the one your with) :p

Don't underestimate a bit of lower dosed crushed anavar or proviron and cialis for your lady.. crush it up both of you swallow them down with a cocktail an hour before fun timeworks wonders tadalafil massively increases clitoris stimulation and sensitivity inevitably making your gal moan and whine and scream more inevitably making you harder bigger better it's all so beautiful! Throw in a magic wand too on her and have her use it on you!

Finally most important don't think about not being able to get it up just say fuck that happens to the best of em, move on and find those things that get you rev'd again and get going! 🌞
 
Proviron or Masteron fixed my issues of ED from long term Deca usage. They are the 'go to' for ED when I'm on, which is pretty much most of the time. PT-141 is like a 'break glass in case of' for ED. I've used it a bunch of times and it absolutely works! I love that stuff. As was mentioned in the earlier comments once you begin experirncing ED it can realy get in your head. Since you've ordered the Masteron it shows you are on the right track. Give it a couple of weeks on Mast especially if it's Mast E. Mast P prolly sooner. Good luck.
 
Battousai said:
Primo lowers e2, aromasin lowers e2. Get some bloodwork done
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Got blood work three weeks ago. Getting blood work again on Monday. Three weeks ago bloodwork showed e2 at almost 60 with test at 300 and primo 100 so I upped test to 400 and primo to 200. I wasn’t feeling to good with e2 at 60 but who knows maybe something else was causing it. Feel pretty good now.
 
another thing I’ve noticed is right around the time or at the same time I started having difficulty with erections my nut sac stoped hanging low and is now really tight. Very obvious when it started and I think they are definitely related.
 
Tattooguy8 said:
another thing I’ve noticed is right around the time or at the same time I started having difficulty with erections my nut sac stoped hanging low and is now really tight. Very obvious when it started and I think they are definitely related.
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Sure sounds like high E2. If primo isn’t acting as a great AI for you (different for everyone), going to 400/200 might actually increase your E2 over the 300/100 you were doing.

Good thing you got bloods as that’s the only way to say for sure, though. Hope it’s obvious from the results and easy to remedy - lousy problem to have!


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McPriimate said:
Sure sounds like high E2. If primo isn’t acting as a great AI for you (different for everyone), going to 400/200 might actually increase your E2 over the 300/100 you were doing.

Good thing you got bloods as that’s the only way to say for sure, though. Hope it’s obvious from the results and easy to remedy - lousy problem to have!


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Yeah I think you’re right. My body really doesn’t like higher e2. It’s a bummer. Kind of a good thing in a way primo doesn’t tank my e2. Guess that means I can run more of it. We’ll see in ten ish days or so.
 
I do Test/Primo 1:1 and never have any issues with libido. It sounds to me like you have high E symptoms, especially since your E is in the 80’s. I would raise the Primo or lower the Test
 
BBruce said:
I do Test/Primo 1:1 and never have any issues with libido. It sounds to me like you have high E symptoms, especially since your E is in the 80’s. I would raise the Primo or lower the Test
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Man that’s awesome! Do you actually get an ai effect from 1:1? I would love to eliminate the aromasin.
 
Tattooguy8 said:
Man that’s awesome! Do you actually get an ai effect from 1:1? I would love to eliminate the aromasin.
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I’ll use Adex in the beginning of the cycle, it takes Primo E awhile to “kick in” (6-7 weeks for me) but when it does I’ll stop the AI or only use as needed. My first Primo cycle was 400/400 Test/Primo and used an AI for the first 8 weeks.
 

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