help with first cycle

[300lbmanlet]

I have started to take my sport serious and wanted to hop on gear since post gear usage isn’t a rule.
I wanted to start testosterone and equipoise for my first cycle, i really needed the equipoise for the stamina benefits for my sport but from my research i found that i can’t dose eq without running a test only cycle for abt 8 weeks (if this is false and there is any way im able to run eq for my first cycle please let me know)
At first i was walking into this blindly already assuming that i can js take 500mg test 600mg eq w no repercussions, now im precautious and wondering if i should use my bloodwork (getting done in next couple days) to figure out my doses and how would i do that. Any help is much appreciated to get my started on my first cycle.

 

[Montego]

First cycle, test only.

 

[300lbmanlet]

First cycle, test only.

you think i can add it in at the 8 week mark when i retest bloodwork

 

[elit3keraed]

I have started to take my sport serious and wanted to hop on gear since post gear usage isn’t a rule.
I wanted to start testosterone and equipoise for my first cycle, i really needed the equipoise for the stamina benefits for my sport but from my research i found that i can’t dose eq without running a test only cycle for abt 8 weeks (if this is false and there is any way im able to run eq for my first cycle please let me know)
At first i was walking into this blindly already assuming that i can js take 500mg test 600mg eq w no repercussions, now im precautious and wondering if i should use my bloodwork (getting done in next couple days) to figure out my doses and how would i do that. Any help is much appreciated to get my started on my first cycle.

Why do you specifically need eq for your sport? For the RBC production? Good chance you’ll get increased RBC from the testosterone.

First cycle should ALWAYS be JUST testosterone. The it have zero idea how it will impact you so running multiple compounds will create too many unknowns.

Get bloods before, get bloods during, then get bloods at the end and again a few weeks after PCT.

On cycle bloods are to see what your dosage is putting you at for total test, free test and estradiol. Then you know whether to adjust by adding an AI etc.

After you got a cycle under your belt with proper pct and time off you can consider adding additional compounds. Or just trying another test only cycle at a higher dosage. Or even the same dosage until you’ve hit the point where it’s not doing much for you.

 

[Montego]

you think i can add it in at the 8 week mark when i retest bloodwork

Absolutely zero reason to. It's a waste of money

 

[300lbmanlet]

Why do you specifically need eq for your sport? For the RBC production? Good chance you’ll get increased RBC from the testosterone.

First cycle should ALWAYS be JUST testosterone. The it have zero idea how it will impact you so running multiple compounds will create too many unknowns.

Get bloods before, get bloods during, then get bloods at the end and again a few weeks after PCT.

On cycle bloods are to see what your dosage is putting you at for total test, free test and estradiol. Then you know whether to adjust by adding an AI etc.

After you got a cycle under your belt with proper pct and time off you can consider adding additional compounds. Or just trying another test only cycle at a higher dosage. Or even the same dosage until you’ve hit the point where it’s not doing much for you.

it is for the rbc production because from my knowledge that’s what increases your stamina and equipoise is great for specifically that otherwise i dont really have a purpose for it, in any case i can dose up on the testosterone for more rbc production after feeling out lower doses assuming that would work somewhat the same

 

[elit3keraed]

it is for the rbc production because from my knowledge that’s what increases your stamina and equipoise is great for specifically that otherwise i dont really have a purpose for it, in any case i can dose up on the testosterone for more rbc production after feeling out lower doses assuming that would work somewhat the same

Yea don’t waste your time taking eq if you’re just looking for extra endurance. You’d need a test base and now you’re having to add 2 different drugs just to get a little more endurance? But manage the sides of 2 different drugs that you have zero experience with.

Run Cardarine if you’re looking for more cardio capacity. If it’s just endurance then I wouldn’t really waste my time with test or eq. Maybe HGH on top of the Cardarine at most as GH can have some benefits to endurance. I’d also do a lot more research on how to cycle overall (there’s a lot of great threads if you take some time to look around) because your initial post doesn’t strike me as having much understanding of how a cycle works.

 

[300lbmanlet]

Yea don’t waste your time taking eq if you’re just looking for extra endurance. You’d need a test base and now you’re having to add 2 different drugs just to get a little more endurance? But manage the sides of 2 different drugs that you have zero experience with.

Run Cardarine if you’re looking for more cardio capacity. If it’s just endurance then I wouldn’t really waste my time with test or eq. Maybe HGH on top of the Cardarine at most as GH can have some benefits to endurance. I’d also do a lot more research on how to cycle overall (there’s a lot of great threads if you take some time to look around) because your initial post doesn’t strike me as having much understanding of how a cycle works.

when i started researching i js searched in the wrong places obviously to the point where im js recently finding out first cycle is test only, i do seek endurance but not strictly endurance, also for the strength. Thank you for your help

 

[elit3keraed]

when i started researching i js searched in the wrong places obviously to the point where im js recently finding out first cycle is test only, i do seek endurance but not strictly endurance, also for the strength. Thank you for your help

Yea take some time browsing these forums. You’ll learn a lot. Dont hesitate to ask questions and when you think you know everything. Ask some more. Test and Cardarine would be more than enough IMO for a first cycle if you’re trying to enhance sport performance. Once you got a good grasp of test THEN consider other things

 

[Hablooblah]

I have started to take my sport serious and wanted to hop on gear since post gear usage isn’t a rule.
I wanted to start testosterone and equipoise for my first cycle, i really needed the equipoise for the stamina benefits for my sport but from my research i found that i can’t dose eq without running a test only cycle for abt 8 weeks (if this is false and there is any way im able to run eq for my first cycle please let me know)
At first i was walking into this blindly already assuming that i can js take 500mg test 600mg eq w no repercussions, now im precautious and wondering if i should use my bloodwork (getting done in next couple days) to figure out my doses and how would i do that. Any help is much appreciated to get my started on my first cycle.

If youre going to do anything just run test and GH. Dont even entertain any other compounds man. Especially EQ, your idea of running 600mg EQ and 500 Test would likely crash your estrogen and your begging for hematocrit issues at those dosages. Keep your test under 400mg, preferably lower, and add nothing else except GH.
Whats your age, height, weight and BF%?

 

[elit3keraed]

If youre going to do anything just run test and GH. Dont even entertain any other compounds man. Especially EQ, your idea of running 600mg EQ and 500 Test would likely crash your estrogen and your begging for hematocrit issues at those dosages. Keep your test under 400mg, preferably lower, and add nothing else except GH.
Whats your age, height, weight and BF%?

I remember a decade ago when EQ was a “need to run it at 600-800 for 16 to 18 weeks” and now it seems a lot of folks are moving away from it entirely or advocating lower dosages

 

[Hablooblah]

I remember a decade ago when EQ was a “need to run it at 600-800 for 16 to 18 weeks” and now it seems a lot of folks are moving away from it entirely or advocating lower dosages

Idk how any of those guys ran EQ that high. Ive never had real hematocrit issues with any compound but this run with EQ at 420mg has fucked my hematocrit
Ive donated twice (week 10 now)and now my ferritin is barely hovering above normal. 2 weeks ago bloods said HCT was back up to 56%. So I had to adjust on the fly. Swapping EQ for primo starting at 140mg primo and upping 75mg a week till I work up to 400mg hopefully coinciding my peak serum levels as the Undecylenate ester of EQ slowly fades trying to avoid crashing E2(while timing iron supplement accurately so as not to aid the EQ in RBC production but enough to keep ferritin from crashing) Its a shitshow and a gamble and I dont normally do things like this but fuck this cycle in particular has yielded great results. so im trying to salvage what I can. EQ results are amazing but im 37 now and I think im just too old to be fucking with the hematocrit issues boldenone causes.

 

[elit3keraed]

Idk how any of those guys ran EQ that high. Ive never had real hematocrit issues with any compound but this run with EQ at 420mg has fucked my hematocrit
Ive donated twice (week 10 now)and now my ferritin is barely hovering above normal. 2 weeks ago bloods said HCT was back up to 56%. So I had to adjust on the fly. Swapping EQ for primo starting at 140mg primo and upping 75mg a week till I work up to 400mg hopefully coinciding my peak serum levels as the Undecylenate ester of EQ slowly fades(while timing iron supplement accuratley so as not to aid the EQ in RBC production but enough to keep ferritin from crashing. Its a shitshow and a gamble and I dont normally do things like this but fuck this cyvle in particular has yielded great results. so im trying to salvage what I can. EQ results are amazing but im 37 now and I think im just too old to be fucking with the hematocrit issues boldenone causes.

Yea I’ll never fuck with it just cuz my HCT sits high alongside HGB despite my RBC being within range. Been working hard on hydrating cuz i always wake up dehydrated as fuck even with 1.5 gallons of water (half during a workout and a gallon the rest of the day)

 

[Hablooblah]

Yea I’ll never fuck with it just cuz my HCT sits high alongside HGB despite my RBC being within range. Been working hard on hydrating cuz i always wake up dehydrated as fuck even with 1.5 gallons of water (half during a workout and a gallon the rest of the day)

Its been a humbling experience NGL, I usually have flawless cycles planned out to a T. But this one has been an animal. Always stayed away from EQ but said fuck it ill give it a shot. I liked DHB and had a slight hematocrit increase, nothing unmanageable. So I felt confident in EQ not being too much of a headache but I was wrong lol. Hopefully my tweaks work and I dont end up fucked. Time will tell.

 

[Montego]

I remember a decade ago when EQ was a “need to run it at 600-800 for 16 to 18 weeks” and now it seems a lot of folks are moving away from it entirely or advocating lower dosages

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