For some people tren can be a fun run, for others it can be absolute hell, you wanna start low with the dose, give it about two weeks to access your tolerance to the drug and then if you feel comfortable up the dose. Start at 50mg eod, ( you may get curious and try ed shots to cut down on sides but its never done anything for me) so that would be 25mg ed. Then go up from there. A perfect first tren run, and really any tren run would be 100mg eod or 50mg ed. i like 100mg of prop eod along with it. Id definitely run prop, especialy on cuts, if you dont like how the test is making you look or feel you can up or lower the dose and it will reflect on your body and strength and shit within a few days, with E or C its gonna be a long time and it will be very subtle. Prop does not aromatize as much as long esters, which means less water retention, there are actual medical studies on it. How many guys in prep do you see running long estered tren and test in prep compared to prop? not many, alot will start a 16-20 week prep with long esters and even some wet drugs like eq and npp but anywhere from 6-10 weeks out they switch to all short esters. Just easier to make adjustments and less water. But i think youd enjoy 100mgs prop eod with 100mg tren a eod, but id def start with 50mg eod for the first 2 week or so to make sure its not hell on earth for you. And watch your t3 levels, tren will crash then in the majority of people leaving you feeling like total shit, hard to even get out of bed. And make sure you have some caber or prami ready, I never really need it on npp or deca but on tren i do or i start having ed problems.