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Hair Loss Prevention Question

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If I'm concerned about hair loss and know I am genetically prone to it, would it be a good idea to use Minoxidil and/or Finastride as soon as I start cycle or is it only recommended to use when balding signs occur? Thanks in advance.
 
If I'm concerned about hair loss and know I am genetically prone to it, would it be a good idea to use Minoxidil and/or Finastride as soon as I start cycle or is it only recommended to use when balding signs occur? Thanks in advance.
What compounds are you running? Do not mix any nandralone with finasteride or youll speedrun a bald head. It blocks nandos conversion to DHN.
 
I know we're on a forum when looks can matter but I've never, not for years anyway, fretted over my hair. Indeed I just shave that bitch and forget. My head hair doesn't define me
 
I know we're on a forum when looks can matter but I've never, not for years anyway, fretted over my hair. Indeed I just shave that bitch and forget. My head hair doesn't define me
To each their own man. Absolutely nothing wrong with someone not wanting AAS to wreck their hair. Your "hair" might not define you but your bald head sure does. To the point you injected yourself into a thread about hair just to tell everyone you dont care about it because you're bald. Dont knock whats important to others. You do you
 
If I'm concerned about hair loss and know I am genetically prone to it, would it be a good idea to use Minoxidil and/or Finastride as soon as I start cycle or is it only recommended to use when balding signs occur? Thanks in advance.
Run minoxodil and RU58841. RU is a total androgen blocker at the scalp/follicle. Just want to stress that finasteride is complete trash and is littered with side effects. Its only effective if youre ONLY running testosterone. It will not block any hairloss from DHT compounds, will make nandralone compounds far worse on the hair and does fuck all for any other 19nors. RU and minoxidil is the stack for keeping your hair on AAS. At least for now, some better stuff will be available soon!
 
I've read that a great combo is minoxodil and ketaconazole (Nizoral.) Not yet on AAS but hair's been thinning towards late 2024. Used/using minoxodil has helped prevent it going further. At first you might get some shedding more than you'd expect but that's just for the thinner hairs to fall out before the stronger ones come in. Just started Nizoral (1% OTC) a few weeks ago. Read that it takes about 3-6 months for the full benefits to appear, although YMMV. Using it MWF and leaving it on about 4-5 minutes before rinsing and then the minox at night.
 
Run minoxodil and RU58841. RU is a total androgen blocker at the scalp/follicle. Just want to stress that finasteride is complete trash and is littered with side effects. Its only effective if youre ONLY running testosterone. It will not block any hairloss from DHT compounds, will make nandralone compounds far worse on the hair and does fuck all for any other 19nors. RU and minoxidil is the stack for keeping your hair on AAS. At least for now, some better stuff will be available soon!

The amount of potential drugs is wild. At least big pharma cares since a drug that cures baldness would probably be the most lucrative discovery in history. I'm interested in the PP405 one out of UCLA
 
Full disclosure, at 59, most of my hair is intact. Even my 95yo dad still has most of his hair. However, I've been doing long runs of Primo, Mast, and Test over the last several years, and noticed my hair starting to thin out on top and my hairline starting to recede. I've been following a hair restoration log posted on another forum, and decided to try out the hair protocol suggested by a poster there. The past couple of months, I've been running Test at 150mg/wk, oral Minoxidil at 2.5mg/day, Dutasteride at .5mg twice per week, and shampooing with Nizoral 1% twice per week leaving it on for 5 min before rinsing it out. This is a very conservative approach meant to minimize sides effects. So far, so good. My hair has thickened up on top, and my hairline seems to creeping back to normal. If you're really serious about preserving your hair or getting some of it back, you have to limit your AAS selection to mainly Test. The only AAS you might be able to get away with adding is EQ since Dutasteride evidently can block DHB. I'm thinking about adding that in to see how my hair responds.
 
Full disclosure, at 59, most of my hair is intact. Even my 95yo dad still has most of his hair. However, I've been doing long runs of Primo, Mast, and Test over the last several years, and noticed my hair starting to thin out on top and my hairline starting to recede. I've been following a hair restoration log posted on another forum, and decided to try out the hair protocol suggested by a poster there. The past couple of months, I've been running Test at 150mg/wk, oral Minoxidil at 2.5mg/day, Dutasteride at .5mg twice per week, and shampooing with Nizoral 1% twice per week leaving it on for 5 min before rinsing it out. This is a very conservative approach meant to minimize sides effects. So far, so good. My hair has thickened up on top, and my hairline seems to creeping back to normal. If you're really serious about preserving your hair or getting some of it back, you have to limit your AAS selection to mainly Test. The only AAS you might be able to get away with adding is EQ since Dutasteride evidently can block DHB. I'm thinking about adding that in to see how my hair responds.
EQ conversion to DHB isnt hard on the hairline at all. And nandralone when not paired with dut or fin is by far the easiest compound on hair. When npp or deca is allowed to convert to DHN unimpeded, in most its almost no tax on the hairline at all, to some there is NO Hairloss at all.
 
I keep seeing that 5ar inhibitors and nandrolone leads to increased hair loss but has anyone seen any research on this? I know it is repeated on forums but just curious if this is theoretical or actually true and proven
 
before ever taking fina or other 5AR blocker, you should test your DHT and progesterone, which is the original 5ar blocker. If progesterone is low, your hair will fall out faster.
Shit my progesterone just got clocked at 0.1 lol can confirm I’m prone to hair loss, and running var and proviron heavily accelerate it
 
I keep seeing that 5ar inhibitors and nandrolone leads to increased hair loss but has anyone seen any research on this? I know it is repeated on forums but just curious if this is theoretical or actually true and proven
Yes its a fact not just a rumor on forums. 5-Ar inhibitors keep the conversion of nandralone to DHN from happening. DHN is far easier on hair than nandralone. You want that conversion to happen. Fin/Dut and nandralone do not mix.
 
My friend this hair thing is an ongoing discussion for the past 35 years of my life in this sport. At 61 I have full head of hair and not one white. My grandfather on my mothers side had full head of hear. I've ran everything you can think of and although I do shed I still kept my hair. I used nizoral 2% shampoo in the past and it helps thicken the hair. Now with that said I have friends that went completely bald by age 30 due to their family genetics and they took every precaution. Yes there is proscar and other gear that slows the process but I think at the end if you are prone its going to be gone. One promising pill in Minoxidil which I hear not only slows down the process but also lowers BP. Anyway, best of luck my friend, not everyone is same and can't really predict what happens but odds are if you are genetically prone its going to happen.
 
Yes its a fact not just a rumor on forums. 5-Ar inhibitors keep the conversion of nandralone to DHN from happening. DHN is far easier on hair than nandralone. You want that conversion to happen. Fin/Dut and nandralone do not mix.
Yeah I am just looking for some studies or research on it specifically, I've read that nandrolone converts to DHN at a low rate anyways like 5-10%
 
My friend this hair thing is an ongoing discussion for the past 35 years of my life in this sport. At 61 I have full head of hair and not one white. My grandfather on my mothers side had full head of hair
This is exactly how genetics work. Your hair is predominantly a result of your mother’s side of the family. I’m close to your age and have all my hair and very few grays. The men on my mom’s side of the family all died with full heads of hair. My dad’s side went bald in their 40’s.

I’m sure some guys will have success with hair supplements or skipping certain compounds, but it really does come down to genetics.
 
Yeah I am just looking for some studies or research on it specifically, I've read that nandrolone converts to DHN at a low rate anyways like 5-10%
The total amount converted isnt what you should be worried about , its that by blocking 5a-reductase youre removing the pathway that normally reduces nandralones androgenic activity at the scalp. If youre wanting first hand experience, fwiw, you can take it from me. Running both will shred your hair. But everybody's different if you dont think it will effect you, run that shit, find out the hard way. The 2 compounds do not mix. Anabolic–androgenic steroids: How do they work and what are the risks? - PMC its a long article but the nandralone info is in there.
 
I’d start fin if you don’t want to lose your hair and kinda be mindful of compounds/amounts you run. I started shedding years ago, sometimes not too bad sometimes really bad and never really did anything about it. Just figured I was doomed, but when I look back to a year ago, my hair was still pretty decent regardless of the amount of loss I had already had. Now my shit fucked up for sure 😂 now it’s transplant or bust which I’ll do maybe, just a drag and inconvenience if you want to be cheap and do the whole turkey thing.
 
I have a pretty thick set of hair. I use nizoral 2% when I blast and 1% when I cruise. Was looking into RU to just completely halt any and all shedding for this next blast since I’m going up to 800mg of Test (high test seems to rape more than anything to me I think). Any of you guys have experience in dosage with RU?
 
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Run minoxodil and RU58841. RU is a total androgen blocker at the scalp/follicle. Just want to stress that finasteride is complete trash and is littered with side effects. Its only effective if youre ONLY running testosterone. It will not block any hairloss from DHT compounds, will make nandralone compounds far worse on the hair and does fuck all for any other 19nors. RU and minoxidil is the stack for keeping your hair on AAS. At least for now, some better stuff will be available soon!
So ru only blocks it at the scalp and not the entire body because obviously if your taking primo or masteron you want the dht effects cosmetic wise if not it would be lowering the potency of your cycle correct
 
What compounds are you running? Do not mix any nandralone with finasteride or youll speedrun a bald head. It blocks nandos conversion to DHN.
Well, nothing currently still doing my due diligence and planning ahead, but I plan on running 300 test stand alone for 12 weeks, get bloods and if everything looks good add 50mgs of Anadrol, but I'm contemplating starting on 25mg just to see how my body and more importantly my liver react to it, but Ive heard many people say 25mgs isn't worth the liver and BP strain for the minimal gain. Really trying to stay away from DHT derivatives early on though, but that's what all the good stuff is lol. I really appreciate your advice by the way will definitely not mix the two.
 
So ru only blocks it at the scalp and not the entire body because obviously if your taking primo or masteron you want the dht effects cosmetic wise if not it would be lowering the potency of your cycle correct
Theres always going to be a small amount of systemic influence from any topical but the amount is negligible.
 
Well, nothing currently still doing my due diligence and planning ahead, but I plan on running 300 test stand alone for 12 weeks, get bloods and if everything looks good add 50mgs of Anadrol, but I'm contemplating starting on 25mg just to see how my body and more importantly my liver react to it, but Ive heard many people say 25mgs isn't worth the liver and BP strain for the minimal gain. Really trying to stay away from DHT derivatives early on though, but that's what all the good stuff is lol. I really appreciate your advice by the way will definitely not mix the two.
Absolutely nothing wrong with seeing how you react at 25mgs, thats the smart way, but if you don't have a bad reaction id up the dose up to 50mg and get the full benefit. And IMHO DHT derivatives are overrated. Ive ran them but there are much better compounds. Not knocking mast or primo but if youre shooting for a hair safe cycle you have options. Run NPP as your main anabolic driver and EQ as your estrogen control. Or run EQ high and test even higher with NPP as your support compound(joints etc)this is my exact cycle right now and im loving it. Ive had better gains on NPP and Test than ive ever had on primo or mast. Everybody is different tho this is just my experience. Good luck brother.
 
Use a DHT shampoo year round. This will prevent hair thinning and loss.

Pura D or is a great year round use shampoo...nizoral 2% is superior in the scalp but the Pura D or also has many ingredients that help hair stay thick and smooth.
I carry both guys. You can also supplement with "wolfs mane" all year round to prevent hair thinning

Stay away from orals and harsh compounds if you are prone
 
Anyone here try KX-826 (pyrilutamide)? Finished first week and am shedding like crazy but I’m not really noticing impacts to the hairline
 
I use topical minoxidil and a ghk-cu peptide spray (in liquid form obviously), as well as the keto 2% shampoo. Haven’t seen many people mention ghk-cu but it’s supposed to have some good hair benefit properties. I just started it recently so too soon to comment

I had tried RU previously and didn’t really notice much from it. I also don’t want to touch finastride or dust because of the potential side effects, so I stick with the above. It does seem to help with thinning
 
Using GnT 2% nizoral and some RU58841 from another source not on this board and ZERO shedding for me 2 weeks in to my blast. Currently using Mast P, NPP and Test P to kickstart. TestP and C are about 1 gram/wk and I believe high test makes me shed more than anything
 
Finasteride is great for blocking DHT if you are running a straight test base, but it won't do anything against DHT derivatives like Masteron or Primo, and it can actually ruin your hair if you're running Nandrolone.

Minoxidil is a lifetime commitment or you'll face a massive shed when you stop. Consider a topical scalp protectant if you're running DHT derivatives.
 
Using GnT 2% nizoral and some RU58841 from another source not on this board and ZERO shedding for me 2 weeks in to my blast. Currently using Mast P, NPP and Test P to kickstart. TestP and C are about 1 gram/wk and I believe high test makes me shed more than anything

Are you using the nizoral daily or two, three days out of the week?
 

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