Feedback-PSL Glutatione Injections

[ldog]

Bros,

Who has used this PSL product? Looking for reviews and solid feedback.

L

 

[Vision]

I can tell you this much, its pharma grade,so the quality is authentic and pure.. The question is, what purpose would you use it for? Be advised that heavy doses can/will bleach your skin.. But a modest to low will assist with detoxification, and assistance with the liver..Its the mother of all antioxidants!

 

[ldog]

Thanks....I have some quality oral versions but the absorption is questionable.

 

[Vision]

Thanks....I have some quality oral versions but the absorption is questionable.

The absorption ratio is not up to par, and extremely weak..Oral consumption of glutathione is virtually inefficient means of increasing Glutathione levels in the body..It gets broken down in the stomach into ingredients; glycine,glutamine & cysteine, so once this occurs during breakdown, these amino's get snatched away into the amino pool,and does NOT lead to a direct increased gluthathione levels in the blood,failing to reach a decent plasma.. This being said; A more direct route/delivery such s injection administration with the sterile solution of Gluthathione is far superior and will yield a heap of positive effects, including the sense of well being!

 

[aaronjwh250]

I have a question if anyone can answer, do you really have to inject 3-4cc of this stuff IV? That's a lot of liquid to put in a vien and it can be hard to find the proper pins to use (I dont want to stick a 5ml syringe with a 1 inch long 25-27g needle into my vien! I've shot peptides and even oxycotin (iv) but that's with a 30g 1/2 inch

 

[theCaptn']

I have a question if anyone can answer, do you really have to inject 3-4cc of this stuff IV? That's a lot of liquid to put in a vien and it can be hard to find the proper pins to use (I dont want to stick a 5ml syringe with a 1 inch long 25-27g needle into my vien! I've shot peptides and even oxycotin (iv) but that's with a 30g 1/2 inch

Short answer: NO.

You can inj IM recommended dosages are 600iu to 1200iu

 

[jozifp103]

I have a question if anyone can answer, do you really have to inject 3-4cc of this stuff IV? That's a lot of liquid to put in a vien and it can be hard to find the proper pins to use (I dont want to stick a 5ml syringe with a 1 inch long 25-27g needle into my vien! I've shot peptides and even oxycotin (iv) but that's with a 30g 1/2 inch

IV is the most efficient...but not recommended for inexperienced people. IM will work fine also...only slightly less efficient as far as absorption. If you're going to go the oral route...you're better off taking NAC. NAC will make your boy product more glutathione which will be more efficient than taking oral glutathione because orally it's almost useless unless you mega dose it.

 

[ldog]

Good info guys.

 

[Vision]

IV is the most efficient...but not recommended for inexperienced people. IM will work fine also...only slightly less efficient as far as absorption. If you're going to go the oral route...you're better off taking NAC. NAC will make your boy product more glutathione which will be more efficient than taking oral glutathione because orally it's almost useless unless you mega dose it.

I concur, the oral application is absolutely useless IMO

 

[Mountain-Man]

Cybersage did a run of it with great results I'll see if I can get him to post his journal here

 

[ldog]

Thanks Mtn Man...I would love to see the journal.

 

[cybrsage]

Hello! Mountain Man told me about this site. I will be more than happy to post my log, though it ended in despair, burning flames and sadness... The short of it, I got very sick before I could truly finish the logs and the drugs the doctor gave me skewed my results. I plan on doing another full log in another two months and will gladly post it here. I will post the log in chunks so as not to create a huge post - basically recreating it like the original log was created.

My posts have to be approved by a moderator still, so when I see this one appear, I will continue on. To that end, the first entry:



I have recently received a few bottles of TAD600. For those who do not know, TAD600 is 600mg of glutathione. Glutathione is a naturally occurring, very powerful antioxidant. When you take liver supplements such as NAC, it works by increasing your body's output of glutathione, which protects your organs from free radicals and toxins that can damage them. When supplementing with glutathione directly, you are giving your body a much more effective dose.

I was doing some reading on WebMD, to see what the medical community thinks of this stuff. They more or less say it is one of the best things ever!


Glutathione is a substance produced naturally by the liver. It is also found in fruits, vegetables, and meats.

People take glutathione by mouth for treating cataracts and glaucoma, preventing aging, treating or preventing alcoholism, asthma, cancer, heart disease (atherosclerosis and high cholesterol), hepatitis, liver disease, diseases that weaken the body’s defense system (including AIDS and chronic fatigue syndrome), memory loss, Alzheimer’s disease, osteoarthritis, and Parkinson’s disease. Glutathione is also used for maintaining the body’s defense system (immune system) and fighting metal and drug poisoning.

Glutathione is breathed in (inhaled) for treating lung diseases, including idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, cystic fibrosis, and lung disease in people with HIV disease.

Healthcare providers give glutathione as a shot (by injection into the muscle) for preventing poisonous side effects of cancer treatment (chemotherapy) and for treating the inability to father a child (male infertility).

Healthcare providers also give glutathione intravenously (by injection into the vein, by IV) for preventing “tired blood” (anemia) in kidney patients undergoing hemodialysis treatment, preventing kidney problems after heart bypass surgery, treating Parkinson’s disease, improving blood flow and decreasing clotting in individuals with “hardening of the arteries” (atherosclerosis), treating diabetes, and preventing toxic side effects of chemotherapy.


They also list NO known side effects!


I got my baseline blood work done this morning and expect to have results sometime Friday afternoon. I am going to compare the TAD600 to my current regimen of 600mg of NAC and 250mg of TUDCA daily. I will not change anything else about what I take so it stays consistent. I am taking 100mg of Proviron (split into 2 equal doses) daily, 80mg of Tbol (split into 2 equal doses) daily, 500mg of Test-Cyp weekly, 250mg of Deca weekly (for joint support), and 500mg Primo weekly . I know most of those items do no affect the liver at all, but I wanted to lay it all out there. I also take ibuprofen as needed (which is hard on the liver).


More to come, but the main items of interest in the blood work will be AST, ALT, and Bilirubin.

 

[cybrsage]

Onto the first injection. I have a few pictures to share first:

Everything laid out and ready to reconstitute the TAD600.

(See the first attachment, below)

Uh oh, notice a problem? It is 4ml of liquid and I have a 3ml syringe. To overcome this, I decided to see if I could reconstitute using only 2ml of liquid.

(See the second attachment, below)

I used the same method uses for a peptide to reconstitute, putting a little liquid (0.5ml) into the bottle down the side of the bottle (to prevent smashing into the powder) and swirling slowly. Apparently, this is not a useful thing to do, as almost none of the powder was absorbed into the liquid. Undaunted, I added another 1.5ml and swirled a lot. Much of it stayed on the bottom, so I turned it upside down and back to right side up multiple times. Still, the powder was there. Letting it sit, I hit youtube to see if anyone could explain how to reconstitute properly. After 2 minutes of no real luck, I looked at the bottle and all the powder was fully absorbed. Lesson learned, 2ml is enough liquid to fully reconstitute if you let it sit after shaking so it can fully absorb.

I injected into my right deltoid using a 1in 25g needle. The water moved so easily I know I could have used a 27g or even a 29g without any issues. Due to the volume added, I wanted to make sure I went deep enough into the muscle, so I used the 1in (my 27g are all 1/2in). It stung a little going in - either from me pushing it so fast (since I am so used to oil) or because it is Glutatione Sodium. Either way, it was just a little sting, nothing bad.

I nicked a vein going in, though, because a lot of blood started to come out after I removed the needle. I am always ready for that and I used my alcohol pad (by now it is dry) to absorb and stop the blood. It works great, and the blood flow stopped instantly.

I will be doing one injection a week for a few weeks, then do another blood test.

 

[cybrsage]

I got my blood work results in. I need to up my AI - I keep forgetting to take a dose when I use TNE! My ALT and AST are high, so a good test for the TAD600. My Bilirubin level is good, so that will not really be tested, unless it suddenly spikes!

LabCorp    PATIENT INFORMATION    REPORT STATUS:  FINAL
SPECIMEN INFORMATION
AGE: 46
GENDER: Male
FASTING: Yes
     
            
Test Name                 Result    Flag    Reference Range
WBC                          9.2          3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL
RBC                             4.68         4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL
Hemoglobin                  13.5         12.6-17.7 g/dL
Hematocrit                    42.1         37.5-51.0 %
MCV                             90           79-97 fL
MCH                            28.8        26.6-33.0 pg
MCHC                          32.1        31.5-35.7 g/dL
RDW                           14.5        12.3-15.4 %
Platelets                      356        150-379 x10E3/uL
Neutrophils                  68          %
Lymphs                       17          %
Monocytes                   9            %
Eos                             6            %
Basos                         0            %
Neutrophils (Absolute)            6.1        1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL
Lymphs (Absolute)            1.6        0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL
Monocytes(Absolute)            0.9        0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL
Eos (Absolute)                0.6    HIGH    0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL
Baso (Absolute)                0.0        0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL
Immature Granulocytes            0         %
Immature Grans (Abs)            0.0        0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL
Glucose, Serum                91        65-99 mg/dL
BUN                    18        6-24 mg/dL
Creatinine, Serum            1.16        0.76-1.27 mg/dL
eGFR If NonAfricn Am            75        >59 mL/min/1.73
eGFR If Africn Am            87        >59 mL/min/1.73
BUN/Creatinine Ratio            16        9-20
Sodium, Serum                138        134-144 mmol/L
Potassium, Serum            4.8        3.5-5.2 mmol/L
Chloride, Serum                101        97-108 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide, Total            23        18-29 mmol/L
Calcium, Serum                9.1        8.7-10.2 mg/dL
Protein, Total, Serum            7.0        6.0-8.5 g/dL
Albumin, Serum                4.3        3.5-5.5 g/dL
Globulin, Total                2.7        1.5-4.5 g/dL
A/G Ratio                1.6        1.1-2.5 
[COLOR=#0000FF][B]Bilirubin, Total            0.4        0.0-1.2 mg/dL[/B]
[/COLOR]Alkaline Phosphatase, S            88        39-117 IU/L
[COLOR=#ff0000][B]AST (SGOT)                59    HIGH    0-40 IU/L
ALT (SGPT)                69    HIGH    0-44 IU/L[/B][/COLOR]
Testosterone, Serum            >1500    HIGH    348-1197 ng/dL
LH                    0.1    LOW    1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
FSH                    <0.2    LOW    1.5-12.4 mIU/mL
Estradiol                        95      HIGH    7.6-42.6 pg/mL
Roche ECLIA methodology

Sorry or the bad formatting.

 

[cybrsage]

07-18-15
Not sure if it was coincidence or the TAD600, but the two days after the injection my urine was foul smelling - as in very strong smelling. Still smelled like urine, just concentrated. The color was a little darker, but still urine colored. I have noticed nothing else, but then again I just started taking it.


07-19-15
Urine is still darker and strong smelling, but less so than before. I also have been very tired recently, have slept a LOT. Gone to bed early and arose late for the last several days. I feel great this morning, though; full of life and vigor.


07-20-15
Urine is no longer darker, but it still smells strongly. I am hoping this means the liver is cleaning itself out.


07-21-15
My urine is back to both looking and smelling normal. It could be my imagination, but I think the scars on my right foot are getting lighter. I also definitely noticed the psoriasis on my left ankle is clearing up...it is a noticeable change. It no longer itches and is starting to look like a scar. EDIT: I found (many months later, 09-28-15) it is not psoriasis, it is actually rheumatoid arthritis of my ankle, which can create a rash in the area. Go figure.


07-22-15
I took my second shot today. This one stung some, but that could simply be the location of the injection.


07-23-15
My urine was slightly darker today but nothing like that first week!

 

[cybrsage]

08-13-15
I took my blood test yesterday and got the results today. I wish I had researched codeine a bit beore doing the blood test, as codeine is hard on the liver. The doctor gave me cough syrup with codeine and flonaise to combat my sickness. My liver values are quite high due to the codeine - meaning my results are skewed.

My other out of range readings are easily explained. The Test, LH, and FSH levels are out of range due to me being on TRT and blasting right now. EOS Absolute is high due to seasonal allergies. The RDW and Platelet count is high due to me giving blood too often - I gave blood two weeks before GenCon and then gave again while at GenCon (they advertised it as "creating Life Potions" - I could not resist!). The high RDW means I have a lot more immature red blood cells than normal and a high platelet is usually caused by either inflammation or by a low iron level. My throat was inflamed and I am most likely low on iron now that I gave so much blood in such a short amount of time. The treatment is a low dose aspirin a day and monitor it until it returns to normal.

Onto the blood test results:

LabCorp PATIENT INFORMATION REPORT STATUS:  FINAL
 SPECIMEN INFORMATION
 AGE: 46
 GENDER: Male
 FASTING: Yes
   
    
 Test Name    Result Flag Reference Range
 WBC     8.6  3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL
 RBC     4.7  4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL
 Hemoglobin    13.3  12.6-17.7 g/dL
 Hematocrit    40.3  37.5-51.0 %
 MCV     86  79-97 fL
 MCH     23.3  26.6-33.0 pg
 MCHC     33  31.5-35.7 g/dL
[COLOR=#ff0000]RDW     20.4  HIGH   12.3-15.4 %
 Platelets    423  HIGH   150-379 x10E3/uL[/COLOR]
 Neutrophils    59   %
 Lymphs     23   %
 Monocytes    9   %
 Eos     8   %
 Basos     0   %
 Neutrophils (Absolute)   5.1  1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL
 Lymphs (Absolute)   2  0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL
 Monocytes(Absolute)   0.7  0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL
[COLOR=#ff0000]Eos (Absolute)    0.7 HIGH 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL[/COLOR]
 Baso (Absolute)    0.0  0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL
 Immature Granulocytes   1   %
 Immature Grans (Abs)   0.1  0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL
 Glucose, Serum    89  65-99 mg/dL
 BUN     17  6-24 mg/dL
 Creatinine, Serum   1.14  0.76-1.27 mg/dL
 eGFR If NonAfricn Am   77  >59 mL/min/1.73
 eGFR If Africn Am   89  >59 mL/min/1.73
 BUN/Creatinine Ratio   15  9-20
 Sodium, Serum    139  134-144 mmol/L
 Potassium, Serum   4.9  3.5-5.2 mmol/L
 Chloride, Serum    101  97-108 mmol/L
 Carbon Dioxide, Total   22  18-29 mmol/L
 Calcium, Serum    9.2  8.7-10.2 mg/dL
 Protein, Total, Serum   7.1  6.0-8.5 g/dL
 Albumin, Serum    4.3  3.5-5.5 g/dL
 Globulin, Total    2.8  1.5-4.5 g/dL
 A/G Ratio    1.5  1.1-2.5 
 Bilirubin, Total   1.1  0.0-1.2 mg/dL
[COLOR=#ff0000]Alkaline Phosphatase, S   121    HIGH    39-117 IU/L
 AST (SGOT)    71 HIGH 0-40 IU/L
 ALT (SGPT)    113 HIGH 0-44 IU/L
 Testosterone, Serum   >1500 HIGH 348-1197 ng/dL[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#0000ff]LH     0.1 LOW 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL
 FSH     <0.2 LOW 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL[/COLOR]
[COLOR=#ff0000]Estradiol                  38.1    HIGH    7.6-42.6 pg/mL[/COLOR]
 Roche ECLIA methodology

09-27-15
It took until NOW for me to finally return to heath...that sickness kicked my ass!!! I am going to wait until around the end of October and do a new log.

 

[ldog]

Excellent log. Is there any chance you can add GGT to your battery of bloodwork for liver function?

 

[cybrsage]

GGT? I will look, I get my blood work done through PrivateMDLabs.com, so not sure.

I just looked, it is $50 before the discount, I will have to check my finances at the time to see if I can afford to add it, I would like to. For those who do not know what GGT is:

A GGT test may be ordered when someone has an elevated ALP level. An ALP test may be ordered alone or as part of a routine liver panel to screen for liver damage even if no symptoms are present. If results of the ALP test are high but other tests that are part of the liver panel (such as AST and ALT) are not increased, then a GGT test may be ordered to help determine whether the source of the high ALP is a bone disorder rather than liver disease.
GGT may be ordered along with or as a follow up to other liver function tests when a person has signs or symptoms that suggest liver disease.


Even small amounts of alcohol within 24 hours of a GGT test may cause a temporary increase in the GGT.
Smoking can also increase GGT.
Elevated GGT levels may be an indicator of cardiovascular disease and/or hypertension. Some studies have shown that people with increased GGT levels have an elevated risk of dying from heart disease, but the reason for this association is not yet known.
Drugs that may cause an elevated GGT level include phenytoin, carbamazepine, and barbiturates such as phenobarbital. Use of many other prescription and non-prescription drugs, including nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), lipid-lowering drugs, antibiotics, histamine receptor blockers (used to treat excess stomach acid production), antifungal agents, antidepressants, and hormones such as testosterone, can increase GGT levels. Clofibrate and oral contraceptives can decrease GGT levels.

 

[ldog]

Great job bro...good info.