Dutch NPP Labs

[DivingAstronomer]

@DUTCHUSA On the website the latest lab for NPP from Jano dates back to June/July, 2024...

The NPP available for purchase is from that batch? Or has there been a new batch brewed since and a more recent or forthcoming lab for it?

Has anyone sent Dutch NPP out for testing that would be willing to share their results?

Looking to place my order within the next couple of weeks.

Lastly, any ETA on Tbol replenishment?

Thanks!

 

[JG40]

I just ran there npp. First time using any npp. I don't get along with deca but some say npp doesn't give them the same sides so I gave it a go. I lasted 4 weeks before I got all the same sides I get from deca. I will say in those 4 weeks my strength went up and I got really full and round. I was only running 30mg per day so 210 mg per week. Stuff is legit.
Test was at 350.

 

[LiverKing01]

They dont typically buy a shit ton of raws for several batches. So it doesnt matter if you buy the NPP from the last Testing or from the newest batch. They are always on point. Correct me if im wrong.
Anyhow, this is the tessting from there newest batches. Enjoy

 

[GrilledCheddar]

I just ran there npp. First time using any npp. I don't get along with deca but some say npp doesn't give them the same sides so I gave it a go. I lasted 4 weeks before I got all the same sides I get from deca. I will say in those 4 weeks my strength went up and I got really full and round. I was only running 30mg per day so 210 mg per week. Stuff is legit.
Test was at 350.

I’ve tried NPP a few times over the years from multiple sources even as low as 150mg per week up to 300mg per week. I always started getting the same multiple side effects around week 4-5 just like you. I loved the direction my physique and gym training was going every time so it was always sad to abandon it.

 

[JG40]

I’ve tried NPP a few times over the years from multiple sources even as low as 150mg per week up to 300mg per week. I always started getting the same multiple side effects around week 4-5 just like you. I loved the direction my physique and gym training was going every time so it was always sad to abandon it.

Yea. Def didn't wanna drop it but I'd rather not run something that I have to manage a bunch of sides on. I switched to DHB. I get on great with EQ so we will see how it goes.

 

[GrilledCheddar]

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[GrilledCheddar]

Yea. Def didn't wanna drop it but I'd rather not run something that I have to manage a bunch of sides on. I switched to DHB. I get on great with EQ so we will see how it goes.

Totally understand that, I have to watch out with EQ these days due to thick blood. I like mast e, I’ve got that with test on a blast and maybe a little var. Keeping it easy these days lol

 

[JG40]

Totally understand that, I have to watch out with EQ these days due to thick blood. I like mast e, I’ve got that with test on a blast and maybe a little var. Keeping it easy these days lol

Yea. Agree. Im 42 so everything is do now is conservative. Current cycle is 50mg test, 30 dhb , 60 mast e daily.
So weekly it's 350 test 210 dhb 420 mast e weekly. 980 total mg per week.
I'd say that's conservative.

 

[Jack3d_Wabbit28]

Yea. Agree. Im 42 so everything is do now is conservative. Current cycle is 50mg test, 30 dhb , 60 mast e daily.
So weekly it's 350 test 210 dhb 420 mast e weekly. 980 total mg per week.
I'd say that's conservative.

How you like the dhb? Pip?

 

[JG40]

So far so good. It's been a week and a half so too soon to tell as far as results. Pip is not bad. I can tell I pinned the next day but it's not bad at all. For me it's very similar to 200mg primo or 100mg prop pip.

 

[Jack3d_Wabbit28]

So far so good. It's been a week and a half so too soon to tell as far as results. Pip is not bad. I can tell I pinned the next day but it's not bad at all. For me it's very similar to 200mg primo or 100mg prop pip.

Good to know. Never ran it before and have been considering it.

 

[jigsaw]

I just ran there npp. First time using any npp. I don't get along with deca but some say npp doesn't give them the same sides so I gave it a go. I lasted 4 weeks before I got all the same sides I get from deca. I will say in those 4 weeks my strength went up and I got really full and round. I was only running 30mg per day so 210 mg per week. Stuff is legit.
Test was at 350.

I'm the same with nandrolone. I feel and look better using tren with a little MENT, than any nandrolone ester. All are progestogenic and MENT is far more estrogenic, so it's not simply one of those issues. My best guess is nandrolone increases ER⍺ signaling and/or impairs ERβ signaling, so even in-range estradiol can result in high E2 symptoms. That would also explain why adding it to a tweaked testosterone regimen often results in water retention and gyno, even though it barely aromatizes.

If I ever try nandrolone again, I'll probably deliberately crash my E2 then recover it with DHEA and let it rise just enough so my joints aren't aching; or try a nandrolone only (no test) cycle with ~ 2mg/day MENT as a form of ERT.

 

[JG40]

I'm the same with nandrolone. I feel and look better using tren with a little MENT, than any nandrolone ester. All are progestogenic and MENT is far more estrogenic, so it's not simply one of those issues. My best guess is nandrolone increases ER⍺ signaling and/or impairs ERβ signaling, so even in-range estradiol can result in high E2 symptoms. That would also explain why adding it to a tweaked testosterone regimen often results in water retention and gyno, even though it barely aromatizes.

If I ever try nandrolone again, I'll probably deliberately crash my E2 then recover it with DHEA and let it rise just enough so my joints aren't aching; or try a nandrolone only (no test) cycle with ~ 2mg/day MENT as a form of ERT.

Yea. It just gets real complicated for me with deca and npp. Easier to just use something else. I have not had those same issues with low dose tren 150mg per week or less in the past but it's been years since I ran it. Might give it a go again and just start really low and see what happens.