Dropping the tren. Continuing with Test/Mast. How to recover after?

[flapjacktitties]

Been reading some conflicting information, and wanted to get a clear answer. Im debating dropping the tren at the end of next week, which will be half-way through my 12 week cycle (300 test/200mast/20 tren(ed)).

I know theres no pct for it. But im unsure of the protocol afterward.

From what I think i understand, Im just supposed to drop to trt/trt+ dosages, staying below the need for a serm/AI, and just ride it out.

 

[GonadalGooner88]

Youre continuing your cycle still, yes? You just drop the tren bro... what are you confused about?

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[Androgenocide]

Been reading some conflicting information, and wanted to get a clear answer. Im debating dropping the tren at the end of next week, which will be half-way through my 12 week cycle (300 test/200mast/20 tren(ed)).

I know theres no pct for it. But im unsure of the protocol afterward.

From what I think i understand, Im just supposed to drop to trt/trt+ dosages, staying below the need for a serm/AI, and just ride it out.

That’s correct, stay on Trt post cycle. There’s not much else to be done to recover from a Tren run.

 

[flapjacktitties]

what are you confused about?

unsure of the protocol afterward.

^Literally the thing i said I was unsure of ^


The "pct" for tren is a trt dose, but wasnt sure if i needed to include a serm/ai as well.

 

[flapjacktitties]

That’s correct, stay on Trt post cycle. There’s not much else to be done to recover from a Tren run.

Is the trt a bridge to a normal "pct"? Or do you just stay on indefinitely. Given the choice, id probably just stay on.

 

[davidsheart]

I think you’ve answered your own question!


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[cdubw44]

There is no pct for Tren. Pct is when you drop everything even test and mast and then you run a pct protocol.
Or you blast and cruise.

 

[Androgenocide]

Is the trt a bridge to a normal "pct"? Or do you just stay on indefinitely. Given the choice, id probably just stay on.

You could eventually do a normal pct. 19-nor metabolites stay in your system for a long time but they will clear given enough time. I’d recommend just staying on personally.

 

[Glycomann]

Have you done a PCT before? How many cycles have you done over how long. I ask so I can give a relevant answer.

 

[Sector.]

I’m guessing it’s his first cycle.

Talking about running pct at the same time as injecting exogenous hormones that shut him down is wild, especially after running tren.

Inject first, research later I guess, and always start with the harshest compound out there

 

[Wardamn]

^Literally the thing i said I was unsure of ^


The "pct" for tren is a trt dose, but wasnt sure if i needed to include a serm/ai as well.

The PCT for tren is stopping tren.

 

[Glycomann]

The PCT for tren is stopping tren.

PCT for marriage is adding Tren. Symptoms of marriage disappear in 4 weeks.

 

[flapjacktitties]

Have you done a PCT before? How many cycles have you done over how long. I ask so I can give a relevant answer.

4th cycle over past few years. Usually just test/var. This time went with mast, which got rid of the need for an ai, which was nice, and added low dose tren a.

Obviously with a test cycle, you do a normal PCT with Nolva/clomid/whatever. And with tren, you lower to a trt dose. It's the combination of the 2 that's throwing me off.

If I follow the comments above, apparently I just come off of everything and say a fucking prayer, while I watch my tits grow.

 

[Sector.]

4th cycle over past few years. Usually just test/var. This time went with mast, which got rid of the need for an ai, which was nice, and added low dose tren a.

Obviously with a test cycle, you do a normal PCT with Nolva/clomid/whatever. And with tren, you lower to a trt dose. It's the combination of the 2 that's throwing me off.

If I follow the comments above, apparently I just come off of everything and say a fucking prayer, while I watch my tits grow.

They’re saying you don’t need to pct if you’re going to keep running test. Just drop the tren and keep running your test

If you’re running test, why would you take clomid? lol

 

[flapjacktitties]

They’re saying you don’t need to pct if you’re going to keep running test. Just drop the tren and keep running your test

If you’re running test, why would you take clomid? lol

Lol who tf would run a pct in the middle of a cycle? I think people saw "pct" and "tren" in the same sentence, and the knee jerk reaction to criticize overcame them.

I guess I should've said: What is the post-cycle protocol when tren is involved?

Drop to trt levels, and wait for balls to regain function.

 

[Sector.]

Lol who tf would run a pct in the middle of a cycle? I think people saw "pct" and "tren" in the same sentence, and the knee jerk reaction to criticize overcame them.

I guess I should've said: What is the post-cycle protocol when tren is involved?

Drop to trt levels, and wait for balls to regain function.

That’s just called cruising my dude.

“post cycle therapy” implies that the cycle is over, and that you’re no longer injecting exogenous hormone so you rely on nolvadex and clomid to jumpstart your endogenous (natural) test production since you wont have any external testosterone coming in via injection

If you’re still injecting test, there is no post cycle therapy. You’re doing more blast and cruise, where you run your cycles and come back down to a trt-ish, or trt+ dose after to get bloodwork right before blasting again

 

[Sector.]

Lol who tf would run a pct in the middle of a cycle? I think people saw "pct" and "tren" in the same sentence, and the knee jerk reaction to criticize overcame them.

I guess I should've said: What is the post-cycle protocol when tren is involved?

Drop to trt levels, and wait for balls to regain function.

That’s just called cruising my dude.

“post cycle therapy” implies that the cycle is over, and that you’re no longer injecting exogenous hormones of any kind so you rely on nolvadex and clomid to jumpstart your endogenous (natural) test production since you wont have any external testosterone coming in via injection

If you’re still injecting test, there is no post cycle therapy. You’re doing more blast and cruise, where you run your cycles and come back down to a trt-ish, or trt+ dose after to get bloodwork right before blasting again

You’re throwing around words like pct and talking about taking clomid while injecting test. that’s why people are confused

 

[Glycomann]

4th cycle over past few years. Usually just test/var. This time went with mast, which got rid of the need for an ai, which was nice, and added low dose tren a.

Obviously with a test cycle, you do a normal PCT with Nolva/clomid/whatever. And with tren, you lower to a trt dose. It's the combination of the 2 that's throwing me off.

If I follow the comments above, apparently I just come off of everything and say a fucking prayer, while I watch my tits grow.

I've been in this for a long while. I always went off and recovered. In the late 80s and 90s we had no PCT. It sucked but I recovered. Later when I came back to PEDs after hitting the midlife wall I used PCT and always recovered test back into the 500s - 600s ng/dL range in 12 weeks, sometimes 16 weeks. Sometimes from there I would stay off for a long while and just train with my normal status, no AAS. I recovered well right up into my mid 50s. Then I went on TRT but still took breaks pretty much up to now. My PCT was always hCG and Clomid. I have used nolva in addition but nothing was added in the positive.

Protocol:

-2. hCG 500 iu MWF
-1. hCG 500 iu MWF
0. hCG 500 iu MWF
1. hCG 500 iu MWF, Clomid 50 mg/d
2. hCG 500 iu MWF, Clomid 50 mg/d
3. Clomid 50 mg/d
4. Clomid 50 mg/d,
5. Clomid 50 mg/d
6. done

Test your levels at week 12. You will suffer for a few weeks after you stop PCT as your body adjusts.-1 and -2 means the last 2 weeks of your cycle. Week 0 is the first week you are off. The hCG will get your teses back in shape while you are coming off. Clomid will push the LH and FSH signal from your pituitary. It can be a little bumpy but better than coming off cold turkey.

 

[heckler7]

Im debating dropping the tren

 

[Maxwell]

just to confirm for you, if you planned to PCT after cycle continue with your plan. TRT is not something you go on without knowing more about it.

 

[flapjacktitties]

I've been in this for a long while. I always went off and recovered. In the late 80s and 90s we had no PCT. It sucked but I recovered. Later when I came back to PEDs after hitting the midlife wall I used PCT and always recovered test back into the 500s - 600s ng/dL range in 12 weeks, sometimes 16 weeks. Sometimes from there I would stay off for a long while and just train with my normal status, no AAS. I recovered well right up into my mid 50s. Then I went on TRT but still took breaks pretty much up to now. My PCT was always hCG and Clomid. I have used nolva in addition but nothing was added in the positive.

Protocol:

-2. hCG 500 iu MWF
-1. hCG 500 iu MWF
0. hCG 500 iu MWF
1. hCG 500 iu MWF, Clomid 50 mg/d
2. hCG 500 iu MWF, Clomid 50 mg/d
3. Clomid 50 mg/d
4. Clomid 50 mg/d,
5. Clomid 50 mg/d
6. done

Test your levels at week 12. You will suffer for a few weeks after you stop PCT as your body adjusts.-1 and -2 means the last 2 weeks of your cycle. Week 0 is the first week you are off. The hCG will get your teses back in shape while you are coming off. Clomid will push the LH and FSH signal from your pituitary. It can be a little bumpy but better than coming off cold turkey.

Perfect. Thank you. Exactly what I was looking for. Is the other option to cruise on say, 200mg test e per week?

 

[Maxwell]

I tried

 

[flapjacktitties]

I tried

You did, just not very hard.

 

[Wiseguy]

Lol who tf would run a pct in the middle of a cycle? I think people saw "pct" and "tren" in the same sentence, and the knee jerk reaction to criticize overcame them.

I guess I should've said: What is the post-cycle protocol when tren is involved?

Drop to trt levels, and wait for balls to regain function.

To make it simple my friend PCT is the same for end of every cycle regardless of the gear. Once you get off wait for two weeks and start taking Nolva for 4 weeks simple. If you are on TRT there is no PCT. Hope this helps brother.

 

[flapjacktitties]

To make it simple my friend PCT is the same for end of every cycle regardless of the gear. Once you get off wait for two weeks and start taking Nolva for 4 weeks simple. If you are on TRT there is no PCT. Hope this helps brother.

Thank you very much for the reply. The reason I even brought up this question to begin with, is because I hear about tren staying in your system for over a year, and that there is no PCT, you just cruise until a PCT would actually work.