Deca vs Trenbolone to build muscle with test?

[MONSTRO]

Both are 19nor and very powerful but trenbolone is much stronger than any other anabolic . We always believe deca is best to bulking but as trenbolone is so much stronger can he build much more muscle than deca? We know deca to work good needs alot of food but trenbolone you can grow on low calories . So witch one will build more real muscle using with testosterone ?

To create a cycle we learn we should chose one steroid from each category ( test, 19nor, dht ) and never combine 2 from the same category. But now you see alot people using deca + trenbolone + anadrol same cycle and all 3 are 19nor .
Is this good idea? is a good stack ? worth the risks?

 

[TravisBickle]

Isn’t anadrol a DHT derivative?

 

[genixcon]

Both are 19nor and very powerful but trenbolone is much stronger than any other anabolic . We always believe deca is best to bulking but as trenbolone is so much stronger can he build much more muscle than deca? We know deca to work good needs alot of food but trenbolone you can grow on low calories . So witch one will build more real muscle using with testosterone ?

To create a cycle we learn we should chose one steroid from each category ( test, 19nor, dht ) and never combine 2 from the same category. But now you see alot people using deca + trenbolone + anadrol same cycle and all 3 are 19nor .
Is this good idea? is a good stack ? worth the risks?

Anadrol is a 17α-alkylated not a 19nor.....

So you’re good.

Thread is moot.

BOOM


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[genixcon]

Jk

But I believe these compounds, same derivatives and all, have enough differences that you can run them together. I just got done running a tren cycle where I tossed some npp in because it was discussed as not a option together.


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[zionoir626]

Even though they may both be 19 nor...the difference is night and day..and anyone that has used both,delt with the sides,health risks or even a night in jail...knows which one won't kill you..

 

[MONSTRO]

SORRY about my mistake ( i need glasses to ) , of course anadrol is not 19nor . The idea here is to know if is benefic to use trenbolone with deca at same cycle ? can one cancel the effects of the other? they are fighting same receptor? Tha´t why people always build is cycle with one compund from each category ( test, 19nor, dht )

 

[TravisBickle]

SORRY about my mistake ( i need glasses to ) , of course anadrol is not 19nor . The idea here is to know if is benefic to use trenbolone with deca at same cycle ? can one cancel the effects of the other? they are fighting same receptor? Tha´t why people always build is cycle with one compund from each category ( test, 19nor, dht )

You would be far more knowledgeable on this subject than I, but I have seen people run this combination successfully. Personally I could never do it. I get prolactin issues just from my TRT dose of deca at 100mg/wk.

 

[MONSTRO]

Travis what did you feel from using trenbolone or deca, prolactin sides ? pain in nipples , lactation?

 

[TravisBickle]

Tren just makes me nauseous. I’ve only tried it from one lab so I’m not yet sure if it was the lab or the compound. Deca, NPP, and Trest I get very aggravated gyno. I am battling it right now just from deca 100mg/wk for joint relief

 

[MONSTRO]

Travis if you are so sensative to , try to focus on test with masteron and oral like turinabol and you will be safe without gyno

 

[TravisBickle]

Travis if you are so sensative to , try to focus on test with masteron and oral like turinabol and you will be safe without gyno

Yes I do like my DHTs. Stenbolone, masteron, etc

 

[TravisBickle]

I actually really enjoy EQ as well. Sorry for the thread derail

 

[MONSTRO]

We all know DHT are not the best compunds to put on mass but when i use it i feel so good , thats why precontest even at low calories i feel better all day , more energetic , more libido, no depression, no lethargy . I love the Masteron

 

[TravisBickle]

We all know DHT are not the best compunds to put on mass but when i use it i feel so good , thats why precontest even at low calories i feel better all day , more energetic , more libido, no depression, no lethargy . I love the Masteron

I agree with you 100%

 

[GarlicChicken]

SORRY about my mistake ( i need glasses to ) , of course anadrol is not 19nor . The idea here is to know if is benefic to use trenbolone with deca at same cycle ? can one cancel the effects of the other? they are fighting same receptor? Tha´t why people always build is cycle with one compund from each category ( test, 19nor, dht )

I'm my experience from years ago, running deca alongside tren is a powerful combo. You all the effects from both, good and bad. It will aggrivate gyno or start it if it's not already there much worse than either by itself. The tren kinda kills the deca dick issues for a while, but after an extended run it ends up making it worse. Creates solid, lean gains, kinda the best of both. But like I said, the sides are worsened compared to one or the other. I don't think they cancel each other's effects at all.

But that's just my anecdotal experience. Also, I don't think there's any difference in the receptors that they use, but it kinda limits you if you wanted to switch compounds instead of coming off between cycles like many pros seem to do. Can't swap one for the other, you'd have to switch to something else kind DHB or primo. But I don't know a lot about the gear use at that level. I'd be curious to see what someone like Patrick Tour had to say about that.

 

[ArgonCoagulator]

I'm pretty sure Tren will build more, jacked, lean mass than Deca mg per mg. Of course a deca or NPP cycle is more sustainable and can be run higher doses so over time you may end up with the same amount of mass gained.

 

[BodybuilderZepp]

After many many years of experimenting with both I will give you my personal experiences.

Deca:
-more weight gain
-bloated look
-less sides
-joint relief
-increased appetite

Tren:
-more strength
-harder look
-more sides
-anger
-decreased appetite

If your looking to get that bulky look and put some weight on go Deca.

If your looking to get a harder look and more strength go Tren.

Right now I am on a combination of Test/Deca/Tren and I’m loving it. Strongest I’ve ever been but also most sides Ive ever experienced. Perfect during this pandemic because im around no one and not working so I cant kill anyone around me.


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[christiantt]

After many many years of experimenting with both I will give you my personal experiences.

Deca:
-more weight gain
-bloated look
-less sides
-joint relief
-increased appetite

Tren:
-more strength
-harder look
-more sides
-anger
-decreased appetite

If your looking to get that bulky look and put some weight on go Deca.

If your looking to get a harder look and more strength go Tren.

Right now I am on a combination of Test/Deca/Tren and I’m loving it. Strongest I’ve ever been but also most sides Ive ever experienced. Perfect during this pandemic because im around no one and not working so I cant kill anyone around me.


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Lol. Is the tren anger/irritation really that bad????
I have never tried tren but hearing the stories of getting pissed off easily make me highly wary.

 

[BodybuilderZepp]

Lol. Is the tren anger/irritation really that bad????
I have never tried tren but hearing the stories of getting pissed off easily make me highly wary.

You can use it to your advantage in the gym and kill the weights. Then when you get home from work and your wife makes your food the wrong way you could kill her too.

Just need to stay relaxed and enjoy it. Tren is my favorite compound there is, nothing compares to the feeling and strength gains but it deff comes with some sides. Start with Tren E, much easier to control the sides of the long ester.


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[RoyKeane]

Lol. Is the tren anger/irritation really that bad????
I have never tried tren but hearing the stories of getting pissed off easily make me highly wary.

tren never got me angry, but it did make me waaaaaay more assertive. I was at a concert and some idiot whipped out a cigarette in a non smoking section. Normally I would just let it go, but on Tren I got in his face and made him put it out. I never touched him, but the intent was there.

 

[MONSTRO]

When i post this to find out witch is better to grow i decide to use both . hehehehe. Now using test + deca + ten + anadrol + dbol . Yes i love trenbolone is amazing and im using TRI TREN from EP and i love it .

 

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[ArgonCoagulator]

tren never got me angry, but it did make me waaaaaay more assertive. I was at a concert and some idiot whipped out a cigarette in a non smoking section. Normally I would just let it go, but on Tren I got in his face and made him put it out. I never touched him, but the intent was there.

You're lucky he was a calm guy.

 

[BigJym]

I mix and match 200mg deca/ 150mg tren, insane results and not sides other than slight agro.

Killer combo, even though BS bro scientist will say you can't mix the two but should run 600g of deca or 400mg tren.

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tren never got me angry, but it did make me waaaaaay more assertive. I was at a concert and some idiot whipped out a cigarette in a non smoking section. Normally I would just let it go, but on Tren I got in his face and made him put it out. I never touched him, but the intent was there.

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[BigDaddy35]

I mix and match 200mg deca/ 150mg tren, insane results and not sides other than slight agro.

Killer combo, even though BS bro scientist will say you can't mix the two but should run 600g of deca or 400mg tren.

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]I do like the 'assertive' aggression on a small dose like 150mg/wk[/FONT]

What test dose were you running with this?


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[Bft84]

I’ve never gotten anything out of deca except some bloat. I’ve tried several labs and even ran it up to 1200mg a week. It doesn’t hold a candle to tren. Everyone responds to tren at even lower doses.
the massive weight gain people get from deca over tren isn’t tissue it’s water and glycogen mainly. I know several competitors who say deca really has no place in bodybuilding and quite a few coaches who never include it

 

[MONSTRO]

I’ve never gotten anything out of deca except some bloat. I’ve tried several labs and even ran it up to 1200mg a week. It doesn’t hold a candle to tren. Everyone responds to tren at even lower doses.
the massive weight gain people get from deca over tren isn’t tissue it’s water and glycogen mainly. I know several competitors who say deca really has no place in bodybuilding and quite a few coaches who never include it

Years ago nobody have courage to try deca and tren together and now is the cycle of choice for all advanced users . I think the trick of this cycle is use low dosage of test to reduce sides

 

[STTM]

One of my favorite cycles ever was Deca and Tren A. Those were in the younger days though.. now Tren hits too hard to run it again, for now anyways.

 

[glock4319]

How about tren being a receptor whore and anything added to it won’t see the greatest benefit? I’m running a sust/tren cycle and it’s going very well.

 

[Sherk]

How about tren being a receptor whore and anything added to it won’t see the greatest benefit? I’m running a sust/tren cycle and it’s going very well.

That’s a myth. There is zero science to back that claim. People started making that claim on forums years ago and it spread like wild fire. But not one person has ever been able to find a study that proves this idea.