Yup. Started my off-season cycle 13 days ago using same the compounds with no initial calorie increase. Weight up 5lbs and now stabilizing. Considering their both enanthates, that time-table is true to form. 2 weeks in you are mostly saturated with the compounds.weight 189 as well.
like ketchup said seems like i had a slight jump almost immediately. usually my weight comes down a tad end of week well see how goes as things progress and stabalize.
jesus christ. after doing sldls, and reverse lunges, you can imagine how FUCKED my grip was lol.
couldnt grip nothing after awhile lol. forearms should grow with this kinda work I imagine lol.

got it (3 words)Take it easy on the bagels.![]()

Keep killing it! I absolutely love seeing your progress!!weight 189 again, HOLDING PATTERN REACHED.
i think the fact im not adding too much water right now is good and holding personally. have to discuss with coach at checkin. ill be up a lb or 2 for check ins.
I dont think the primo and test could already be working could it? i felt like i looked fckin insane today. im pretty shy bashful person but man I kept looking at myself in the mirrors today, i felt like I just looked ridiculous. for me and my standards anyway. still see my fat self sometimes in the mirror.
enough of my mental illnesses, on to weight discussion...lol
well maybe i hit my shit harder then I thought, my quads are cramping and my hamstrings are sore!
today felt simlar on chest. I hit it hard, now that incline machine press is in rotation and im banging the living hell outta it, my flat db and seated machine flys are suffering a tad.
cable lat raises
22 x 17
27.5 x 14
22 x 16
up a rep
incline chest machine
170 x 20 up 5 and reps
195 x 10 up 5
205 x 10 same but lost a rep
flat db press
75 x 11
75 x 9 lost a reps
70 x 11 went down 5lbs
seated machine fly
140 x 15
140 x 13 down 1 rep
140 x 12 down 2 reps
plate loaded dips
285 x 13
284 x 14
285 x 11
same no changes, but i held a little more on the pushdown
upriight row standing
95 x 12
105 x 10
seated db lat raises
27.5 x 12 up 2.5
27.5 x 12 same
27.5 x 11 same
over head triceps
71.5 x 19 up 5 and reps
77 x 17 up 5 and reps
77x 16 up 2 reps
abwork
ab machine 4 x 20,
285 x 20
285 x 20
285 x 20
285 x 16
leg raises i think irriated an old bjj injury i forgot about on my rib. so skipping them for a min until it settles down.
all in all super good work bjj after was great as well feel good. we had a light today which was very much needed. still good cardio on my rolls just nobody really going for the kill to hard.
sleep
really good, app says only 4.5 but theres no way. its off for sure. based on my guestimates minimum 5.5 but probably 6 -6.25 woke up feeling GREAT!
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back to our roots meal plan in effect
This is exactly why we didn't raise calories the first week. Get the weight to stabilize from the initial water retention while drugs building up in the system. You're about 30-40% saturated with the test and primo as they are both enanthates. It will start to feel very noticeable around days 10-14.weight 189 again, HOLDING PATTERN REACHED.
i think the fact im not adding too much water right now is good and holding personally. have to discuss with coach at checkin. ill be up a lb or 2 for check ins.
I dont think the primo and test could already be working could it? i felt like i looked fckin insane today. im pretty shy bashful person but man I kept looking at myself in the mirrors today, i felt like I just looked ridiculous. for me and my standards anyway. still see my fat self sometimes in the mirror.
back to our roots meal plan in effect
im already pretty vascular naturally, yikes! pretty cool!I know when I used it, it seemed like the primo kicked in pretty fast because veins started popping up all over! That and the extra water bro... ROCK IT!
youre killing it too buddy! some of your strength on the lifts are crazy! and youre natty too! if and when you blast/trt, thats gonna be some crazy shit!Keep killing it! I absolutely love seeing your progress!!
Hey brother... hope I didn't mislead along the line... I've been doing TRT at 150wk. I dropped it from the 200+ when my bicep ruptured. The blast is coming real soon... mb next week. Just did routine blood this morning and am doing Test and Estrogen this afternoon.im already pretty vascular naturally, yikes! pretty cool!
youre killing it too buddy! some of your strength on the lifts are crazy! and youre natty too! if and when you blast/trt, thats gonna be some crazy shit!
that was for bambam! hes natty i believe right now.Hey brother... hope u didn't mislead along the line... I've veen doing TRT at 150wk. I dropped it from the 200+ when my bicep ruptured. The blast is coming real soon... mb next week. Just did routine blood this morning and am doing Test and Estrogen this afternoon.
I did split squats this morning and embarrassed to say how much after that bullshit. lol F me.doing 485lb split squats.
what
the
fuck
hes also doing them like freebar too what the hell not even smith or assisted or anything or a spotter.I did split squats this morning and embarrassed to say how much after that bullshit. lol F me.



. To think you were taking in 200 carbs a day not too long ago.Carbs upped to 575 on training days

To think you were taking in 200 carbs a day not too long ago.![]()
But carbs make you fat. Don't you know that?Crazy! I can't believe it used to train fasted with just water.
Never again!

But carbs make you fat. Don't you know that?![]()


