Chase Irons

[Deezo]

I like this dude a whole lot, but I think he's NUTS, yes he's reckless AF with his dosages, he does everything he can though to keep things looking GREAT.

PICS below are after his 6g+ cycle (at a stage in his most recent cycle) madness.


And still comes out ontop .

Below is his BP protocol which obviously kept all serious health sides from the abuse at bay. Again dude must have mad tolerance or is just smart as fuck. Or both .

My blood pressure protocol:

Drugs (cause that's all you guys will try anyway):

40 olmesartan (more kidney protective than telmi)

25 hctz

10 cialis

5 Nebivolol (only because I'm on 120 clen and they cancel each other out)

I'm going to tell you now drugs alone when doing none of the following activities only got me to 125-130/80-85. If you want exceptional BP the activities below are the real game changers.

Activities:

10k steps a day.

HIIT cardio 2x's a week (all out sprints). Lift weights, do the hard shit, go to failure.

Sleep with cpap.

Fast 16-18 hours 1-3x a week.

15 minutes shirtless sun exposure daily.

20 mins 200 degree sauna daily.

3 min 40 degree cold plunge daily.

Grounding daily.

Eat in a deficit and lose some damn weight!

Eat low carb (not ideal for bulking but if you are trying to figure shit out and dieting this is huge). Have an amazing wife and baby!

I'll say it again, the drugs weren't enough. They will help, but you've got to get off your ass and get to work

Ps: I understand there are bodybuilders out there and this may be their standard cycles. Just crazy to see. And amazing to see his health still . As with the pros....

 

[Meetketchup]

You're being sarcastic right?

I don't see a blood panel; I see a cover sheet. Did he post the actual bloodwork?

 

[Deezo]

You're being sarcastic right?

I don't see a blood panel; I see a cover sheet. Did he post the actual bloodwork?

Not yet (if ever) . Was searching for that....

 

[Valdosta]

5 Nebivolol (only because I'm on 120 clen and they cancel each other out)

Is that not retarded. Wouldn’t the move be not take them?

 

[Deezo]

Is that not retarded. Wouldn’t the move be not take them?

Extremely selective beta blockers like nebivolol will cancel out the heart wrangling and high blood pressure effects of clen but not the weight loss or other benefits associated with taking Clen.

 

[MuffinTop79]

Extremely selective beta blockers like nebivolol will cancel out the heart wrangling and high blood pressure effects of clen but not the weight loss or other benefits associated with taking Clen.

great point about nebivolol

 

[Valdosta]

Extremely selective beta blockers like nebivolol will cancel out the heart wrangling and high blood pressure effects of clen but not the weight loss or other benefits associated with taking Clen.

good info to know. so it doesnt decrease the metabolic effects of clen at all?

 

[Deezo]

good info to know. so it doesnt decrease the metabolic effects of clen at all?

No, they are "synergistic for fat loss".

 

[Deezo]

@Meetketchup (3 words message)

 

[Bolan]

7571nl/dl on the Test.....Running 6g's of test???????????
Mine would be in the 30-50k range.
Not that I had bloods pulled running that much Testosterone.....................................

 

[Oakley6575]

7571nl/dl on the Test.....Running 6g's of test???????????
Mine would be in the 30-50k range.
Not that I had bloods pulled running that much Testosterone.....................................

He was not running 6g of test with this blood work. He's never run that much test, or total load. The highest he's ran in the past was 3500 test, 1400 mast.

This was either 2g test or 3g test.

 

[Deezo]

7571nl/dl on the Test.....Running 6g's of test???????????
Mine would be in the 30-50k range.
Not that I had bloods pulled running that much Testosterone.....................................

That's what I was thinking too, but to be far he did say when he took these bloods he was on 3000mg test, and, and, and... (5g) total. 18iu's growth.

He's coming out with new bloodwork on Friday, as well as a video on all his procedures listed above. I like the dude, responds when asked, talks well, educated for sure

 

[Deezo]

He was not running 6g of test with this blood work. He's never run that much test, or total load. The highest he's ran in the past was 3500 test, 1400 mast.

This was either 2g test or 3g test.

Precisely, it was not test only. It was a total of all, it was 3. 5grams test at the time.

As you have said

 

[Valdosta]

hes fairly unpleasant to look at. id kinda be mad if i worked that hard to look that repulsive

 

[Battousai]

7571nl/dl on the Test.....Running 6g's of test???????????
Mine would be in the 30-50k range.
Not that I had bloods pulled running that much Testosterone.....................................

Probably on trt and telling everyone he takes 5g's, lol

 

[Deezo]

And the 20+iu's of growth. Just happy the dudes healthy and definitely stays ontop of his health.

 

[Oakley6575]

That's what I was thinking too, but to be far he did say when he took these bloods he was on 3000mg test, and, and, and... (5g) total. 18iu's growth.

He's coming out with new bloodwork on Friday, as well as a video on all his procedures listed above. I like the dude, responds when asked, talks well, educated for sure

Can you point me to where he said this? i think you have your numbers wrong. And he has been off growth for a while. These bloods are definitely less than 5g total load and with no GH. So I'm confused as to where you are getting 6g+ of gear, 18iu growth, etc.

I believe this was 3g test, 1200mg EQ, and 350 tren. No GH. But that is why I'm asking where you are seeing your numbers.

 

[Deezo]

Can you point me to where he said this? i think you have your numbers wrong. And he has been off growth for a while. These bloods are definitely less than 5g total load and with no GH. So I'm confused as to where you are getting 6g+ of gear, 18iu growth, etc.

I believe this was 3g test, 1200mg EQ, and 350 tren. No GH. But that is why I'm asking where you are seeing your numbers.

6g was incorrect(that was an honest typo) , but nothing more.

I'll point to you , where he himself said this to me .
That's where I'm seeing my numbers. They are not "definitely less than 5g total load with no GH". So unless u know him better than himself... By all means sir.

 

[Oakley6575]

6g was incorrect(that was an honest typo) , but nothing more.

I'll point to you , where he himself said this to me .
That's where I'm seeing my numbers. They are not "definitely less than 5g total load with no GH". So unless u know him better than himself... By all means sir.

I don't know him better than himself. But you are posting numbers and bloods that don't even correlate with each other.

That video was back when he was on 3500 test, 1400 mast and 18iu of gh. Since then he has cruised, dropped gh, been in a 12 week fat loss phase, and has just recently started titrating his total load back up. He went from 1000 test, to 2000 test and 700 eq and 350 tren, then 3000 test and 1200 eq and 350 tren. All of that has been on zero GH.

The bloods you posted are recent and four weeks after he started 3000 test, 1200 eq, and 350 tren, no GH. The timeline matters.

 

[Deezo]

That video was back when he was on 3500 test, 1400 mast and 18iu of gh. Since then he has cruised, dropped gh, been in a 12 week fat loss phase, and has just recently started titrating his total load back up. He went from 1000 test, to 2000 test and 700 eq and 350 tren, then 3000 test and 1200 eq and 350 tren. All of that has been on zero GH.

Correct

The bloods you posted are recent and four weeks after he started 3000 test, 1200 eq, and 350 tren, no GH. The timeline matters.

Kinda difficult to understand when he himself is all over the show ..

Anyhow is 4000 test
2000eq and 100 tren not 6g+???

 

[Bolan]

Im sure thats Tren Ace @ 100mg ED

 

[Deezo]

Im sure thats Tren Ace @ 100mg ED

LOL, I'm also thinking, those huge doses of EQ and TEST, then just... (how do ASF bro's say it?!?) "a sprinkle of tren"

 

[dcdogz]

He's just pinning tne before the bloodwork

 

[JC33]

Extremely selective beta blockers like nebivolol will cancel out the heart wrangling and high blood pressure effects of clen but not the weight loss or other benefits associated with taking Clen.

I’m not here to argue I’m just generally curious. Nebivolol blocks the beta-1 receptor slowing down the heart rate pretty significantly but it doesn’t block any of the beta receptors like in the lungs or organs and this is what makes it selective. What’s cool about it is that your resting heart rate will be much lower all day long, but it still allows you to get your heart rate up higher during exercise. To a lesser extent than without it, but unlike the original beta blockers you can still get your heart rate up. I’m prescribed it by my cardiologist. You’re also warned not to take stimulants while taking a beta blocker because sending mixed signals to the heart is definitely not a good thing (think of speed balling) I’m less informed on Clen but I do know a little bit about it.

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist meaning it makes your heart beat faster. My understanding is that this heart rate increase, raises your basal metabolic rate (metabolism) and puts you in a better position to burn fat. More calories burned throughout the day. So when taking them together how exactly does the synergy work? I’m genuinely curious. Wouldn’t you worry about sending mixed signals to your heart? Playing with your beta receptors telling one to slow down and another to speed of sounds dangerous but I do not have any knowledge on that so this is all just conjecture. Nebivolol will absolutely make your heart beat slower while on clen, and if your taking clen to speed up your heart rate to lose fat my serious question is how do they synergize? Sounds like the speedballing version of ped’s

Is there some other mechanism clens acting on to burn fat besides the heart rate increase? I’m actually very curious now.

 

[chadmack]

I’m not here to argue I’m just generally curious. Nebivolol blocks the beta-1 receptor slowing down the heart rate pretty significantly but it doesn’t block any of the beta receptors like in the lungs or organs and this is what makes it selective. What’s cool about it is that your resting heart rate will be much lower all day long, but it still allows you to get your heart rate up higher during exercise. To a lesser extent than without it, but unlike the original beta blockers you can still get your heart rate up. I’m prescribed it by my cardiologist. You’re also warned not to take stimulants while taking a beta blocker because sending mixed signals to the heart is definitely not a good thing (think of speed balling) I’m less informed on Clen but I do know a little bit about it.

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist meaning it makes your heart beat faster. My understanding is that this heart rate increase, raises your basal metabolic rate (metabolism) and puts you in a better position to burn fat. More calories burned throughout the day. So when taking them together how exactly does the synergy work? I’m genuinely curious. Wouldn’t you worry about sending mixed signals to your heart? Playing with your beta receptors telling one to slow down and another to speed of sounds dangerous but I do not have any knowledge on that so this is all just conjecture. Nebivolol will absolutely make your heart beat slower while on clen, and if your taking clen to speed up your heart rate to lose fat my serious question is how do they synergize? Sounds like the speedballing version of ped’s

Is there some other mechanism clens acting on to burn fat besides the heart rate increase? I’m actually very curious now.

I have to many loved depending on me & wanting time with me to take such risk.

 

[Oakley6575]

Correct


Kinda difficult to understand when he himself is all over the show ..

Anyhow is 4000 test
2000eq and 100 tren not 6g+???

Ah so that was when he was on 2000/700/300.

Sorry, I didn't realize the mri results where after he started 6g of gear. My bad.

Yea, I know he is titrating up to 5g of test plus eq so he is going to be pushing well over 6g this go around. And wtf.. He is was running 2000/700 with an E2 of 6 so he ups the EQ to 2000? Why is he trying to have zero E2. That shit makes no sense.

This will be a great show to watch.

 

[JC33]

Ah so that was when he was on 2000/700/300.

Sorry, I didn't realize the mri results where after he started 6g of gear. My bad.

Yea, I know he is titrating up to 5g of test plus eq so he is going to be pushing well over 6g this go around. And wtf.. He is was running 2000/700 with an E2 of 6 so he ups the EQ to 2000? Why is he trying to have zero E2. That shit makes no sense.

This will be a great show to watch.

Chase irons cycle debates and fact checking literally make my head spin

 

[Deezo]

I have to many loved depending on me & wanting time with me to take such risk.

When taking the two in conjunction I'd make sure i'd be fit enough and lean enough to not even need nebivolol.

 

[Meetketchup]

Chase is still a walking turnip.

 

[JC33]

When taking the two in conjunction I'd make sure i'd be fit enough and lean enough to not even need nebivolol.

Taking Nebivolol if you don’t need it Is dangerous, that’s why I asked for clarification on the synergy. Beta-blocker OD = Forever Nap

Edit: very low dose nebiv won’t kill you but it’s definitely not going to make you feel good. Healthy rhr is say somewhere between 60-72. 5mg the lowest dose you can get will have your hr between 45-55 if your rhr is between those numbers I stated.