Guys, help me understand this, please:
We’ve all seen the Androgenic and Anabolic Rating tables (I'm including the one below sorted by Anabolic Rating, which I’ve shortlisted based on compounds I’ve used or plan to try).
But how reliable are these numbers, and what’s the correct way to interpret them?
I’m particularly curious about Halo. I’ve never tried it, but from what I’ve read from people who have, even 30 mg/day for 2-3 weeks doesn’t seem to result in visible muscle gains - just strength and aggression, which are influenced more by androgenic properties rather than anabolic ones. So where does the 1,900 anabolic rating come from? That’s 19 times higher than Testosterone! Going by these numbers, 20 mg of Halo per day should theoretically produce the same anabolic effect over a week as 2,660 mg of Test. But in reality, gains from 20 mg/day of Halo seem comparable to just 140 mg of Test per week, which is almost nothing.
Alright, what if we double the dose and our liver survives. I doubt that 40 mg of Halo would bring significant extra muscle growth, but 280 mg of Test per week definitely does.
So how come Halo have an anabolic index of 1,900 if it doesn’t translate into pretty much any noticible muscle gains? To me, it seems like it should be way lower than 100 (Test).
No questions about Halo’s androgenic index of 850 - that one makes perfect sense.
Some other compounds are questionable too. For example, Superdrol, which is famous as a pre-workout for strength and aggression, has an androgenic index of just 20 - lower than anything else on this list.
We know, Superdrol is run at small dosages, but still - 20 mg of Trenbolone Acetate (with Androgenic index of 500) doesn’t give us 25 X the androgenic effect of 20 mg of Superdrol.
Or Anavar… I’d never give it the same high anabolic index as Anadrol. And to me, it’s definitely not 5x higher than testosterone.
Hmmm…
Or maybe I'm totally wrong and we just need a deeper understanding of what’s really behind these numbers - how to read them correctly, compare them, and how much we should actually rely on them.
We’ve all seen the Androgenic and Anabolic Rating tables (I'm including the one below sorted by Anabolic Rating, which I’ve shortlisted based on compounds I’ve used or plan to try).
But how reliable are these numbers, and what’s the correct way to interpret them?
Anabolic-Androgenic Rating Table
| Compound | Androgenic | Anabolic Rating |
|---|---|---|
| Trestolone (MENT) | 650 | 2,300 |
| Halotestin (Fluoxymesterone) | 850 | 1,900 |
| Methyl-1-Testosterone | 100-220 | 910-1,600 |
| Trenbolone | 500 | 500 |
| Anavar (Oxandrolone) | 24 | 322-630 |
| Methasterone (Superdrol) | 20 | 400 |
| Anadrol 50 (Oxymetholone) | 45 | 320 |
| Winstrol (Stanozolol) | 30 | 320 |
| Dihydroboldenone | 100 | 200 |
| Dianabol (Methandrostenolone) | 40-60 | 90-210 |
| Nandrolone | 37 | 125 |
| Proviron (Mesterolone) | 30-40 | 100-150 |
| Equipoise (Boldenone Undecylenate) | 50 | 100 |
| Testosterone | 100 | 100 |
| Masteron (Drostanolone Propionate) | 25-40 | 62-130 |
| Primobolan (Methenolone Enanthate) | 44-57 | 88 |
I’m particularly curious about Halo. I’ve never tried it, but from what I’ve read from people who have, even 30 mg/day for 2-3 weeks doesn’t seem to result in visible muscle gains - just strength and aggression, which are influenced more by androgenic properties rather than anabolic ones. So where does the 1,900 anabolic rating come from? That’s 19 times higher than Testosterone! Going by these numbers, 20 mg of Halo per day should theoretically produce the same anabolic effect over a week as 2,660 mg of Test. But in reality, gains from 20 mg/day of Halo seem comparable to just 140 mg of Test per week, which is almost nothing.
Alright, what if we double the dose and our liver survives. I doubt that 40 mg of Halo would bring significant extra muscle growth, but 280 mg of Test per week definitely does.
So how come Halo have an anabolic index of 1,900 if it doesn’t translate into pretty much any noticible muscle gains? To me, it seems like it should be way lower than 100 (Test).
No questions about Halo’s androgenic index of 850 - that one makes perfect sense.
Some other compounds are questionable too. For example, Superdrol, which is famous as a pre-workout for strength and aggression, has an androgenic index of just 20 - lower than anything else on this list.
We know, Superdrol is run at small dosages, but still - 20 mg of Trenbolone Acetate (with Androgenic index of 500) doesn’t give us 25 X the androgenic effect of 20 mg of Superdrol.
Or Anavar… I’d never give it the same high anabolic index as Anadrol. And to me, it’s definitely not 5x higher than testosterone.
Hmmm…
Or maybe I'm totally wrong and we just need a deeper understanding of what’s really behind these numbers - how to read them correctly, compare them, and how much we should actually rely on them.
