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Glycomann

Glycomann

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I'll be 64 in a couple weeks. Been on androgens for many years. I can't get off anymore without much effort. Vaginally forget it. Oral better if she knows what she's doing. I use hCG on the regular. It helps some. I have put Proviron in and it makes me more horny but doesn't help to get to climax. I've added Dostinex/Caber and it helped years ago. Now nadda. Do you guys know of some product that might help? Before the Don Juan chime in to get fresh pussy... just to let you know, that is not the problem. It's a sensitivity issue. Getting hard is not a problem and if it is I have Viagra so hardness is not the problem. Use to be that I cycles off AAS for 3-4 months and all would come back to normal. Now I just TRT and at points I might take a month off to let things settle down. That might help for a little while after getting back on TRT or a little cycle. Then it's back to pounding away at the vagina with no climax.

So what is it with you studs? The lady involved always feels better when we climax. It's somehow fulfilling as a women I am told by more than one. Some really don't care and actually like a marathon man and the many orgasms they can have with Dr. Numbpenor.
 
Curious if it correlates at all to your E2 levels. Pretty sure you've already thought of/looked at that, but I do find that it's one of the first symptoms of higher E2 for me. Starts with the "geez, this is taking a minute - wonder if it'll happen" and then goes to Dr. Numbpenor (hilarious dude!) or I take some additional asin and it goes back to normal. Correlated with bw, as well (but this is one where the "feelz" are almost 100% accurate and sensitive, confirmed with the trailing indicator of bw). When I drop TRT down to have test levels right about the halfway mark of normal range or a bit below, vs. more high normal where I feel better overall, sensitivity comes (no pun intended) back quickly. I know you said you take time off, but does your hCG drive your E2 up perhaps? Then you might have lower test levels but possibly still high E2? Not saying any of this is the case - just trying to think out loud with you and help a brother out lol. I hate the feeling where I'm horny as a teenager (wife told me that two days ago lol) but can't finish
 
It always goes back to more sensitive at 3 weeks off. That seems to be where everything crosses over into a good point and that's usually with a little hCG in place. Then it goes to shit until I get back on something. E2 is always in a good point when I check it. Some people get obsessed about pinning it to some number. I don't use any AI and haven't had to in many years now since I dialed things in years ago. Given US units the ratio is roughly 20:1 test : E2. I was just on a 20 week TRT only and the problem was there. I'm probably just fucked from 30+ years of androgens. I'm guessing the problem is more common than people want to admit. I will check E2 again with next blood work.
 
Glycomann said:
It always goes back to more sensitive at 3 weeks off. That seems to be where everything crosses over into a good point and that's usually with a little hCG in place. Then it goes to shit until I get back on something. E2 is always in a good point when I check it. Some people get obsessed about pinning it to some number. I don't use any AI and haven't had to in many years now since I dialed things in years ago. Given US units the ratio is roughly 20:1 test : E2. I was just on a 20 week TRT only and the problem was there. I'm probably just fucked from 30+ years of androgens. I'm guessing the problem is more common than people want to admit. I will check E2 again with next blood work.
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Well, I’m five years older than you, I have the same problem, I can finish 60% of the time and I don’t use much and never had, could be just getting older? I don’t know.
 
High E2 seems to make me less sensitive. It’s really one of the only sides I experience when my E2 is high.
 
Glycomann said:
Do you have a sweet spot range? 30 - 50 pg/dL? Test level in that range? Ratio?
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I’ll try to keep this long story as short as possible lol. I’ve been on at least a TRT dose of test since 2009. My body never would recover after running my first “cycle” and I would contribute that to just not having the knowledge that I do now.

I never did bloodwork one time until 5yrs ago when I lost my UGL sources and decided to go to an HRT clinic. They started me on 250 a week which is what I had been running previously and put me on an AI and the AI tanked my E2 so I quit taking it. On 250 a week, my E2 runs in the mid 50’s but I don’t experience any kind of sides so it really isn’t an issue.

HRT was just getting way too expensive so I was able to find a UGL source again before finding this forum. I decided to run a test on “cycle” at 600mg a week and experienced my first real high E2 symptom which was sensitivity or the lack of. I had no problem getting an erection but I would just fuck until I finally lost it because I couldn’t feel anything. I had bloods done and my E2 was 81 so I started taking the AI I had on hand from the HRT clinic and was able to correct the problem.

So I guess to answer your question after all of that lol, I don’t know that I have a “sweet” spot but mid 50’s isn’t a problem for me as far as sides go.
 
@Glycomann, I’ve suffered with this condition my entire life. There is a medical diagnosis for this very thing which is called DE (delayed ejaculation). Like you I’ve ran the gamut from playing with my estrogen levels, prolactin levels to no avail. Taking Caber, Prami, and Bromo too.

Like you said it purely a sensitively issue. Like you just thrusting over and over and feel nothing. Man it blows I know. I’ve lost a few relationships over it personally cause the women would think I wasn’t attracted to em cause I’d hardly bust a nut.

Only positive to this is I was built for fucking 3-4 chicks at the same time. I could get each and every one of em off several times before I’m even remotely ready to finish. Basically made for porn!

Unfortunately, I haven’t found anything that works for me. PDE5 drugs make it worse though, just an fyi.

Cage
 
Just by chance, are you on any antidepressants, SSRIs?

This can sometimes happen to people, You don't necessarily need to be on SSRIs, but your D1 and D2 receptors can be blocked and congested, speak to your doctor about possibly getting on some buspar.. Now this doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be surrendering, and telling them that you have a depression issue, But buspar can also behave much like cabergoline can with restoring and refreshing certain receptors.

Pull some blood work, and see where your prolactin levels are..

Seriously, look into some low dose buspar, this medication can be like a Swiss army knife..

It has off label properties with helping people sustain and maintain a healthy sex drive, with improving delayed ejaculation, or the inability to ejaculate at all..

Just my 2 cents!!
 
When I took pregabalin it would take me 30-60 mins to bust, sometimes no shot at all. I kinda miss those days. Now Im done in 2 mins if I don't stop myself in time. Why can't we all be in happy middle ground?
 
Make sure you stay hydrated. Dehydration can cause the problem. Do you get muscle spasms a lot in general ?
 
Hughmangoes said:
When I took pregabalin it would take me 30-60 mins to bust, sometimes no shot at all. I kinda miss those days. Now Im done in 2 mins if I don't stop myself in time. Why can't we all be in happy middle ground?
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I NEED 45 minutes at the absolute MINIMUM. Longest I went was for two hours, no nut, but my dick was rocking racing strips and my girl at the time couldn’t walk right or wipe her cooch properly for 4 days. Was fun, but we both paid a price for that one!

I sincerely wish I was physically able to have a quickie. My wife would give me more sex if that was the case. However, she knows she in for a beating every time so it hinders our sex life.

Cage
 
Usually when e2 gets funky so does my anxiety then my performance tanks. Add some whiskey in there, get out of here.
 
I know its going to be a good day when I wake up on with morning wood
@ 56 years young. I fuckin love Sustanon.
When I was married. (25 years) the last maybe 10 years I couldnt
Nut at all...My Ex was a looker and could get me rock hard just by
looking at her naked... Or even bra/Panties! But I was under
a ton of stress them last 10 years of marriage. My Dr thinks it was
the stress making it hard or not nut. Once divorced I was dating a lot of
women at 1st and pretty much being a male slut.. I had 0 issues with
busting a nut. :ROFLMAO:
 
DAMMIT! You circumvented my famous line before I got to say it.
My feelings are hurt.😭
 
Vision said:
Just by chance, are you on any antidepressants, SSRIs?

This can sometimes happen to people, You don't necessarily need to be on SSRIs, but your D1 and D2 receptors can be blocked and congested, speak to your doctor about possibly getting on some buspar.. Now this doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be surrendering, and telling them that you have a depression issue, But buspar can also behave much like cabergoline can with restoring and refreshing certain receptors.

Pull some blood work, and see where your prolactin levels are..

Seriously, look into some low dose buspar, this medication can be like a Swiss army knife..

It has off label properties with helping people sustain and maintain a healthy sex drive, with improving delayed ejaculation, or the inability to ejaculate at all..

Just my 2 cents!!
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No, no psych drugs ever in my life.
 
Bolan said:
I know its going to be a good day when I wake up on with morning wood
@ 56 years young. I fuckin love Sustanon.
When I was married. (25 years) the last maybe 10 years I couldnt
Nut at all...My Ex was a looker and could get me rock hard just by
looking at her naked... Or even bra/Panties! But I was under
a ton of stress them last 10 years of marriage. My Dr thinks it was
the stress making it hard or not nut. Once divorced I was dating a lot of
women at 1st and pretty much being a male slut.. I had 0 issues with
busting a nut. :ROFLMAO:
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This makes me want to be single again 😂
 
Have you considered infrequent pinning? Going down to 2 or 3 pins a week can help create natural hormonal rhythm. Flat hormones can create flat neurochemistry for some, if I do ED pinning the same thing happens to me but now I do M-W-F and feel 1000x better
 
PRorER said:
Have you considered infrequent pinning? Going down to 2 or 3 pins a week can help create natural hormonal rhythm. Flat hormones can create flat neurochemistry for some, if I do ED pinning the same thing happens to me but now I do M-W-F and feel 1000x better
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Always wondered about this, and even further using TNE for variability within a day. As in, how would it feel to use TNE every morning (not the injection, tho lol)? Would the rapid peak/valley profile make for better, more natural/physiologic feelz?

Most of what I can find is comparing daily injections of test cyp or enan but not non-esterified test. All the “more stable levels with ED” stuff, when this would be intentionally non-stable but more physiologic replacement. Probably wouldn’t work at supraphysiologic levels, but that’s not the intended range for TRT and this approach

Interesting that going to TIW works better for you. Cool that you found that to be true


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McPriimate said:
Always wondered about this, and even further using TNE for variability within a day. As in, how would it feel to use TNE every morning (not the injection, tho lol)? Would the rapid peak/valley profile make for better, more natural/physiologic feelz?

Most of what I can find is comparing daily injections of test cyp or enan but not non-esterified test. All the “more stable levels with ED” stuff, when this would be intentionally non-stable but more physiologic replacement. Probably wouldn’t work at supraphysiologic levels, but that’s not the intended range for TRT and this approach

Interesting that going to TIW works better for you. Cool that you found that to be true


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When I first started, no problems, then I started pinning more for “stable levels” and the problems started. The thing that made me realize whenever I cruised I’d only pin M->F and on Sundays I’d feel significantly better, I’ve noticed this regardless of ester
 
PRorER said:
When I first started, no problems, then I started pinning more for “stable levels” and the problems started. The thing that made me realize whenever I cruised I’d only pin M->F and on Sundays I’d feel significantly better, I’ve noticed this regardless of ester
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I did best EOD with Test Prop. The body was looking for the fluctuation. Flat levels or those once a week shots can be a problem. But I have been pinning for 30 years. Pinning gets old. and subQ/shallow IM only really good for 0.7 ml a shot. I do like Test P though. But it seems only to work best after a gear abstinence period of 8 weeks. At this point in my life at 64 I would like to avoid off periods of 8 weeks or more. Although the last time I did is a couple years ago I managed to get my levels up to 470 ng/dL with hCG at 750 iu EOD along with a little squirt of GH eplacement dose. Felt and looked like absolute dog shit though.
 
Got some good knowledgable guys in here, I’m following this…

Just turned 40 in October.

Bless you boys, may you have good hard erections and be able to finish.
 
Glycomann said:
I'll be 64 in a couple weeks. Been on androgens for many years. I can't get off anymore without much effort. Vaginally forget it. Oral better if she knows what she's doing. I use hCG on the regular. It helps some. I have put Proviron in and it makes me more horny but doesn't help to get to climax. I've added Dostinex/Caber and it helped years ago. Now nadda. Do you guys know of some product that might help? Before the Don Juan chime in to get fresh pussy... just to let you know, that is not the problem. It's a sensitivity issue. Getting hard is not a problem and if it is I have Viagra so hardness is not the problem. Use to be that I cycles off AAS for 3-4 months and all would come back to normal. Now I just TRT and at points I might take a month off to let things settle down. That might help for a little while after getting back on TRT or a little cycle. Then it's back to pounding away at the vagina with no climax.

So what is it with you studs? The lady involved always feels better when we climax. It's somehow fulfilling as a women I am told by more than one. Some really don't care and actually like a marathon man and the many orgasms they can have with Dr. Numbpenor.
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If you have sex everyday, regardless of what you do, you'll never be able to get off.
It's probably more psychological, than it is your track record with androgens.

Do something kinky, or anything other than the same old sex.

If I'm having sex with the same girl, everyday, for a week or two, I get bored.
I can go for an hour or two, and never get off, but she's came 5-10 times.

I either fuck someone else, or take a break.

Or learn to fake it and say you came inside her then send her to the shower.
Just ramp up the moaning right before you're going to fake it, twitch your body a lil bit and she'll believe it.
 
codem said:
If you have sex everyday, regardless of what you do, you'll never be able to get off.
It's probably more psychological, than it is your track record with androgens.

Do something kinky, or anything other than the same old sex.

If I'm having sex with the same girl, everyday, for a week or two, I get bored.
I can go for an hour or two, and never get off, but she's came 5-10 times.

I either fuck someone else, or take a break.

Or learn to fake it and say you came inside her then send her to the shower.
Just ramp up the moaning right before you're going to fake it, twitch your body a lil bit and she'll believe it.
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You are a degenerate my friend.
 
Glycomann said:
I'll be 64 in a couple weeks. Been on androgens for many years. I can't get off anymore without much effort. Vaginally forget it. Oral better if she knows what she's doing. I use hCG on the regular. It helps some. I have put Proviron in and it makes me more horny but doesn't help to get to climax. I've added Dostinex/Caber and it helped years ago. Now nadda. Do you guys know of some product that might help? Before the Don Juan chime in to get fresh pussy... just to let you know, that is not the problem. It's a sensitivity issue. Getting hard is not a problem and if it is I have Viagra so hardness is not the problem. Use to be that I cycles off AAS for 3-4 months and all would come back to normal. Now I just TRT and at points I might take a month off to let things settle down. That might help for a little while after getting back on TRT or a little cycle. Then it's back to pounding away at the vagina with no climax.

So what is it with you studs? The lady involved always feels better when we climax. It's somehow fulfilling as a women I am told by more than one. Some really don't care and actually like a marathon man and the many orgasms they can have with Dr. Numbpenor.
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You sound primed and ready to be a pornstar, Bruh!!! 😀
Maybe switch up the cabergoline for Pramipexole?

Increased frequency and range of sexual behavior in a patient with Parkinson's disease after use of pramipexole: a case report​

Renato P Munhoz et al. J Sex Med. 2009 Apr.

Abstract​

Introduction: Several recent reports have linked the use of dopamine agonists (DAs) to a variety of compulsive behaviors in patients with Parkinson's disease (PD). These inappropriate behaviors may include pathological gambling, compulsive shopping, and hypersexuality.

Aim: To report the case of a patient with increased range of sexual behavior after use of pramipexole, a DA.

Methods: A 67-year-old man with a 7-year diagnosis of PD treated with levodopa and pramipexole presented with a dramatic change in sexual behavior after an increase in DA dose.

Results: The patient, who historically was a very shy and conservative person, started to present increased frequency of sexual intercourse with his wife, during which he began speaking obscenities with an extreme preference for anal intercourse, preferences never requested before. After pramipexole was withdrawn, complete remission was observed with return to his usual sexual behavior.

Conclusions: Hypersexuality and paraphilias are complications not uncommonly found in patients with PD under dopaminergic treatment. Further studies are needed for the understanding of this complex complication, and particularly the most prevalent relationship between pathological hypersexuality and use of DAs.
 
JJB1 said:
You sound primed and ready to be a pornstar, Bruh!!! 😀
Maybe switch up the cabergoline for Pramipexole?

Increased frequency and range of sexual behavior in a patient with Parkinson's disease after use of pramipexole: a case report​

Renato P Munhoz et al. J Sex Med. 2009 Apr.

Abstract​

Introduction: Several recent reports have linked the use of dopamine agonists (DAs) to a variety of compulsive behaviors in patients with Parkinson's disease (PD). These inappropriate behaviors may include pathological gambling, compulsive shopping, and hypersexuality.

Aim: To report the case of a patient with increased range of sexual behavior after use of pramipexole, a DA.

Methods: A 67-year-old man with a 7-year diagnosis of PD treated with levodopa and pramipexole presented with a dramatic change in sexual behavior after an increase in DA dose.

Results: The patient, who historically was a very shy and conservative person, started to present increased frequency of sexual intercourse with his wife, during which he began speaking obscenities with an extreme preference for anal intercourse, preferences never requested before. After pramipexole was withdrawn, complete remission was observed with return to his usual sexual behavior.

Conclusions: Hypersexuality and paraphilias are complications not uncommonly found in patients with PD under dopaminergic treatment. Further studies are needed for the understanding of this complex complication, and particularly the most prevalent relationship between pathological hypersexuality and use of DAs.
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LOL.. I remember reading that some years back. Bought some Prami around then and that stuff I did not react well to. Maybe I should try again? I haven't done caber in years either. I guess those are boxes I could open again. I wonder if his wife's buthole healed.
 

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