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Bible Thread

We must not sit in the seat of scoffers…. Light and darkness have nothing to do with one another.

The presence of light makes darkness retreat. And, the absence of light gives way to darkness.
 
heavyiron said:
Since the Bible is specific that there will be future fulfilled Jewish prophecies in Jerusalem and on the temple mount we should be aware that Jerusalem was not controlled fully by Israel until 1967. In other words, theoretically end time prophesy about Jerusalem and the temple mount could not be fulfilled from AD 70 to 1967.
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Important to remember, the word "Israel" stopped meaning the land, and started meaning the faithful in Christ. People.
The UN labeling that land mass "Israel" was an intentional deception.
It worked in spades. Look at all the "Christians" supporting GENOCIDE as a result.
The prophesy regarding the Temple still stands. Watch.
The controllers have bought satan's lie that they can escape judgement via technology, while they rush to fullfill prophesy as a sort of "challenge" to scripture.
Like "ok, we fullfilled the events of revelations, now lets see if we bet on the right concept."
They did not.
Uploading "yourself" into the "WWW" (666) ((Hebrew characters)) IS DEATH, not an escape route.
The whole digital landscape is slavery, and death.
"World Wide WEB" ... What is a web? A place where prey gets trapped, drained, and consumed.
The "InterNET"... What is a net? A device used to trap living organisms for the purpose of consumption.
Digital currency... conducted on the "block-chain" ... what are blocks and chains used for? ... to enslave. They created digital coins, and allowed them to develop "organically" so we would be trained to use them... ultimately, there will be ONE block-chain, CBDC, accessed by the Mark.
98% percent of society cannot see this. Nor can they survive on their own, they will choose the comfort of slavery, bc they have lost the ability to survive on their own.
 
Fletcher said:
Important to remember, the word "Israel" stopped meaning the land, and started meaning the faithful in Christ. People.
The UN labeling that land mass "Israel" was an intentional deception.
It worked in spades. Look at all the "Christians" supporting GENOCIDE as a result.
The prophesy regarding the Temple still stands. Watch.
The controllers have bought satan's lie that they can escape judgement via technology, while they rush to fullfill prophesy as a sort of "challenge" to scripture.
Like "ok, we fullfilled the events of revelations, now lets see if we bet on the right concept."
They did not.
Uploading "yourself" into the "WWW" (666) ((Hebrew characters)) IS DEATH, not an escape route.
The whole digital landscape is slavery, and death.
"World Wide WEB" ... What is a web? A place where prey gets trapped, drained, and consumed.
The "InterNET"... What is a net? A device used to trap living organisms for the purpose of consumption.
Digital currency... conducted on the "block-chain" ... what are blocks and chains used for? ... to enslave. They created digital coins, and allowed them to develop "organically" so we would be trained to use them... ultimately, there will be ONE block-chain, CBDC, accessed by the Mark.
98% percent of society cannot see this. Nor can they survive on their own, they will choose the comfort of slavery, bc they have lost the ability to survive on their own.
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I like this.

But I thought the word Israel was Jacob … the trickster?
 
Vinnie Paz - End of Days
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{Intro: David Icke}
The greatest form of control is where you think you're free, when you're being fundamentally manipulated and dictated to. One form of dictatorship is being in a prison cell and you can see the bars and touch them. The other one is sitting in a prison cell but you can't see the bars but you think you're free.

What the human race is suffering from is mass hypnosis. We are being hypnotized by people like this: newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on, and what is really going on, is absolutely enormous.

{Hook: Block McCloud}
It's like we all know what's goin' down
But no one's sayin' shit, what happened to the home of the brave?
These motherfuckers, they're controllin' us now
But no one's talkin' about it, made us modern day slaves
And everybody's just walkin' around
Head in the clouds, we won't awake until we're dead in the grave
By then it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up
Welcome to the end of days

{Verse 1: Vinnie Paz}
Everybody a slave, only some are aware
That the government releasin' poison in the air
That's the reason I collect so many guns in my lair
I ain't never caught slippin', never underprepared
Yeah, the Shaitan army, they display it proudly
George Bush the grandson of Aleister Crowley
They want you to believe the lie that the enemy Saudi
The enemy ain't Saudi, the enemy around me
There's fluoride in the water, but nobody know that
It's also a prominent ingredient in Prozac
How could any government bestow that?
A proud people who believe in political throwback
That's not all that I'm here to present you
I know about the black pope in Solomon's Temple
Yeah, about the Vatican assassins and how they will get you
And how they cloned Barack Hussein Obama in a test tube

{Hook: Block McCloud}
It's like we all know what's goin' down
But no one's sayin' shit, what happened to the home of the brave?
These motherfuckers, they're controllin' us now
But no one's talkin' about it, made us modern day slaves
And everybody's just walkin' around
Head in the clouds, we won't awake until we're dead in the grave
By then it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up
Welcome to the end of days

{Verse 2: Vinnie Paz}
Whoever built the pyramids had knowledge of electrical power
And you know that that's the information
That they suppress and devour
Who you think the motherfuckers that crashed in the tower?
Who you think that made it turn into ash in an hour?
The same ones that invaded Jerome
The ones that never told you about the skeletons on the Moon
Yeah, the ones that poison all the food you consume
The ones that never told you about Mount Vesuvius Tomb
The Bird Flu is a lie, the Swine Flu is a lie
Why would that even come as a surprise?
Yeah, the Polio vaccine made you die
It caused cancer and it cost a lot of people their lives
Do y'all know about Bohemian Grove?
How the world leaders sacrificin' children in robes?
Lucifer is God in the public school system
I suggest you open up your ears and you listen

{Hook: Block McCloud}
It's like we all know what's goin' down
But no one's sayin' shit, what happened to the home of the brave?
These motherfuckers, they're controllin' us now
But no one's talkin' about it, made us modern day slaves
And everybody's just walkin' around
Head in the clouds, we won't awake until we're dead in the grave
By then it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up
Welcome to the end of days

{Outro: David Icke}
The greatest hypnotist on the planet Earth is an oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, you've got them. Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening… and they have.
 
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Prodigy of Mobb Deep - Real Power Is People
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(Sample)
"They are a secret network of international pirates
Who identify with no nation, no national flag
And no established religion
Their flag is the skull and cross bones
And their God, G.O.D. spells Gold, Oil, and Drugs."
(Prodigy talking)
One, two, aiight
Yeah, that's right, uh-huh
Uh, uh

{Prodigy}
Live from the belly, they got me behind the fence
I run shit from the inside of the fucking President
Of the Infamous Gang - get whiff from my stank
I got that iky-iky cotton picky shit that have you dazed
I'm a quadruple O.G., a O so call me
The reincarnation of the Pharaoh with an Olde E
The barrel full of hot lead; shoot a pot head
Talking that shit about Hip-Hop dead
Nah it's alive behind the gate; permanent smiley face
Any nigga stunting on the God; nah you outta place
I beat a lot of cases had to take an L
I see you in a hot sec', yep hold it down

(Chorus)
Money's worthless, real power is people
Real strength is in the streets where everybody's equal
Fuck jewelry, fuck rims; let's spend on our protection
Get armor, get cameras, get wit' it lil nigga this man's shit
Real power is people
Real strength is in the streets where everybody's equal

{Prodigy}
This is live from behind the wall
Sitting, starring at the wall
I'm fit to pop out this bitch like a newborn
I'm fit to cut out all the smoking and the drinking
The wine and the spirits is evil where you take it baby
So I'm telling the truth, you live it then you see it
You breathe it then you be it
I'll tell you a lil secret
It's a secret government that worship an owl
They practice witchcraft to harness their power
Pedophile rape lil kids for energy
The Satanic rituals; W.T.C. (R.I.P.)
They let the Pentagon on fire
That's lighting the pentagram on fire
All these bodies for what?
So you could scare everybody into one world huh?
All my grime's is on deck
So if you ain't come for war then run
 
Fletcher said:
Important to remember, the word "Israel" stopped meaning the land, and started meaning the faithful in Christ. People.
The UN labeling that land mass "Israel" was an intentional deception.
It worked in spades. Look at all the "Christians" supporting GENOCIDE as a result.
The prophesy regarding the Temple still stands. Watch.
The controllers have bought satan's lie that they can escape judgement via technology, while they rush to fullfill prophesy as a sort of "challenge" to scripture.
Like "ok, we fullfilled the events of revelations, now lets see if we bet on the right concept."
They did not.
Uploading "yourself" into the "WWW" (666) ((Hebrew characters)) IS DEATH, not an escape route.
The whole digital landscape is slavery, and death.
"World Wide WEB" ... What is a web? A place where prey gets trapped, drained, and consumed.
The "InterNET"... What is a net? A device used to trap living organisms for the purpose of consumption.
Digital currency... conducted on the "block-chain" ... what are blocks and chains used for? ... to enslave. They created digital coins, and allowed them to develop "organically" so we would be trained to use them... ultimately, there will be ONE block-chain, CBDC, accessed by the Mark.
98% percent of society cannot see this. Nor can they survive on their own, they will choose the comfort of slavery, bc they have lost the ability to survive on their own.
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I personally see Israel or the Jews as a separate entity from believers today. I call believers today The body of Christ which is the phrase Paul uses to describe us. What you are describing is replacement theology. About 25+ years ago I went to a seminary where we studied the various views. I completely reject replacement theology. We are not spiritual Israel and they are not us. I also take the Bible literally when possible. Obviously some parts are metaphor or symbolic but for the most part I read it literally. I believe the Body of Christ will be removed by Christ and God will resume a literal program with Israel in physical Israel with the Jews. This will begin the 7 year Tribulation which the Bible calls Jacobs trouble. BTW, the original Israel was quite a bit larger than it is today. The vast majority of end time prophecy revolves around physical Jerusalem IMHO.

Replacement theology has gained some traction so there are plenty of people that believe like you do. I just personally reject that doctrine.
 
i have the bible app

i been using the new american standard bible its supposed to be like KJV but more readable
 
heavyiron said:
I personally see Israel or the Jews as a separate entity from believers today. I call believers today The body of Christ which is the phrase Paul uses to describe us. What you are describing is replacement theology. About 25+ years ago I went to a seminary where we studied the various views. I completely reject replacement theology. We are not spiritual Israel and they are not us. I also take the Bible literally when possible. Obviously some parts are metaphor or symbolic but for the most part I read it literally. I believe the Body of Christ will be removed by Christ and God will resume a literal program with Israel in physical Israel with the Jews. This will begin the 7 year Tribulation which the Bible calls Jacobs trouble. BTW, the original Israel was quite a bit larger than it is today. The vast majority of end time prophecy revolves around physical Jerusalem IMHO.

Replacement theology has gained some traction so there are plenty of people that believe like you do. I just personally reject that doctrine.
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I have a lot of studying yet to do. I study on my own just with the word mostly and I avoid the theories of others as much as possible. I think that in the latter books, where "the enemies of Israel" and "those who come against her" can only mean the body of believers bc the modern State of Israel is a creation of evil.
So I didnt get that idea from anyone's teaching, thats just my personal conclusion.
I agree that physical Jerulsalem is def mentioned straight forward for what it is.
 
Fletcher said:
I have a lot of studying yet to do. I study on my own just with the word mostly and I avoid the theories of others as much as possible. I think that in the latter books, where "the enemies of Israel" and "those who come against her" can only mean the body of believers bc the modern State of Israel is a creation of evil.
So I didnt get that idea from anyone's teaching, thats just my personal conclusion.
I agree that physical Jerulsalem is def mentioned straight forward for what it is.
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Keep in mind that Judaism is unlike most concepts of nationality or ethnicity. The Bible in both the New and Old Testaments list genealogies of the Hebrews and these genealogies are important but being Jewish is more complicated than that. If a non-Jewish person (Gentile) wanted to proselytize to Judaism they would follow the moral law (such as the 10 commandments) and the ceremonial laws (circumcision, washings, dietary laws, keeping feast days, etc) of the Jews. Essentially, they would keep the doctrines and precepts of the Jewish religion, and in doing so they are considered a full member of the Jewish people. In other words, they don't have to be descendants of the man Israel to be considered Jewish.

This becomes interesting when you see Christ stated that he ONLY was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He also commanded that the disciples go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Christ went to the Jews first. In Acts 2 we see Peter only preaching to the Jews and proselytes to Judaism. Peter understood who his audience was. Ironically many churches think the Body of Christ started in Acts 2 but it did not. There was no Gentile/Jewish program yet. In fact it wasnt until Acts 10 that God shows Peter he can now go to the Gentiles. So, what happened between Acts 2 and Acts 10?

In Acts 7 Stephen preaches to the Jewish leaders. This was the final offer of the kingdom on earth to the Jews. They rejected the message and murdered Stephen. The Jews are set aside as Gods chosen people and the resurrected Christ confronts Saul/Paul on the road to Damascus. Paul is raised up to go to the Gentiles and preach Christs death burial and resurrection. The ceremonial laws are abrogated, and the dispensation of the Grace of God begins. Both Jew and Gentile can now come to Christ by faith alone.

Once the dispensation of Grace ends (fullness of the Gentiles) God will resume dealing with Israel in their land. Many Jews will die but in the end all of remaining Israel will be saved.

There are multiple future wars against Israel depending on how you view the Bible. In Ezekiel 38 the nations listed that go against Israel are mostly Muslim. Same thing in Psalm 83. These are physical wars or physical enemies. Amazingly we see them aligned against Israel today.

I personally think the dispensation of Grace will end in our lifetime and we will depart and be with the Lord. So, Christians are removed first, Muslims attack Israel and they are all defeated according to Ezekiel 38. The major religion becomes Judaism. God puts severe pressure on Israel for 7 years (The Tribulation or time of Jacobs trouble) and the remaining Jews realize they have murdered their Messiah and they finally put their trust in Him.
 
heavyiron said:
Keep in mind that Judaism is unlike most concepts of nationality or ethnicity. The Bible in both the New and Old Testaments list genealogies of the Hebrews and these genealogies are important but being Jewish is more complicated than that. If a non-Jewish person (Gentile) wanted to proselytize to Judaism they would follow the moral law (such as the 10 commandments) and the ceremonial laws (circumcision, washings, dietary laws, keeping feast days, etc) of the Jews. Essentially, they would keep the doctrines and precepts of the Jewish religion, and in doing so they are considered a full member of the Jewish people. In other words, they don't have to be descendants of the man Israel to be considered Jewish.

This becomes interesting when you see Christ stated that he ONLY was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. He also commanded that the disciples go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Christ went to the Jews first. In Acts 2 we see Peter only preaching to the Jews and proselytes to Judaism. Peter understood who his audience was. Ironically many churches think the Body of Christ started in Acts 2 but it did not. There was no Gentile/Jewish program yet. In fact it wasnt until Acts 10 that God shows Peter he can now go to the Gentiles. So, what happened between Acts 2 and Acts 10?

In Acts 7 Stephen preaches to the Jewish leaders. This was the final offer of the kingdom on earth to the Jews. They rejected the message and murdered Stephen. The Jews are set aside as Gods chosen people and the resurrected Christ confronts Saul/Paul on the road to Damascus. Paul is raised up to go to the Gentiles and preach Christs death burial and resurrection. The ceremonial laws are abrogated, and the dispensation of the Grace of God begins. Both Jew and Gentile can now come to Christ by faith alone.

Once the dispensation of Grace ends (fullness of the Gentiles) God will resume dealing with Israel in their land. Many Jews will die but in the end all of remaining Israel will be saved.

There are multiple future wars against Israel depending on how you view the Bible. In Ezekiel 38 the nations listed that go against Israel are mostly Muslim. Same thing in Psalm 83. These are physical wars or physical enemies. Amazingly we see them aligned against Israel today.

I personally think the dispensation of Grace will end in our lifetime and we will depart and be with the Lord. So, Christians are removed first, Muslims attack Israel and they are all defeated according to Ezekiel 38. The major religion becomes Judaism. God puts severe pressure on Israel for 7 years (The Tribulation or time of Jacobs trouble) and the remaining Jews realize they have murdered their Messiah and they finally put their trust in Him.
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Thank you for going in depth like that. I see that we have reached a point in technology, for the first time ever, to have a "Beast Mark" system that matches what is described in scripture be possible. Its there now, and they will implement it slowly but surely, in small increments.

These other events def add to the conclusion that the events described will happen in our lifetime. Its all lined up.
 
I hear there are grocery carts in super markets in Forest Hills, NY and Long Island, NY that have huge green bags in them, wrapped in saran wrap and are chained to the cart holder, poles and surrounding points of stability. Also I read there are two warships in brighten beach new york visible from the shore.

Who knows if this is true, but we all know the USA has not been run by an American since well before we can Imagine and yeah I mean before Trump too. He is a billionaire elitist den a lifelong Hillary Clinton supporter, he was here as controlled opposition...imagine the accuracy of the databases now hahaha... You better know Jesus today, open the door and ask Him in to eat with you. Which knows if we have tomorrow, not one of us can buy time no matter how successful we are, time isnt for sale, but the devil wants yo to think we have all the time in the world and he has horns and a pitch fork... lol The spirit realm is real and this world will pass but your soul mind and spirit will never pass so figure out today where you wanna spend it, with Jesus or with Satan. Making no choice is a choice. Love you brothers everyone of even you @Vision
 
Fletcher said:
Thank you for going in depth like that. I see that we have reached a point in technology, for the first time ever, to have a "Beast Mark" system that matches what is described in scripture be possible. Its there now, and they will implement it slowly but surely, in small increments.

These other events def add to the conclusion that the events described will happen in our lifetime. Its all lined up.
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I think technology is key. When you carefully read scripture, it appears that the final antichrist may not have supernatural power or limited supernatural powers. His weapons appear to be deception and lying wonders. In order to control all buying and selling I think we will need to see a worldwide CBDC and improvements to AI. Only through advanced AI can the entire world be surveilled. I think global CBDC's are about 1-2 years away and advanced AI maybe 1 year away. However it could be sooner.

II Thessalonians 2:9-12 NKJV​

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
Moreover to the idea that white people don’t naturally exist in the Middle East…. Simon was given super human strength but had a weakness for women. Phililistine women, for their exotic pale skin.

The sea peoples were probably Greek/Crete and mixed with caananites.

Paganism before Islam was created and Petra was Mecca before Mecca. The black stone in the black cube that they walk circles around was there pre Islam back when they were pagans. They did the same thing only the pagan idols were facing the black cube during the pagan ritual.

I don’t know, I could be wrong…. But I would make an educated guess as to satan the deceiver being involved somehow.
 
heavyiron said:
I think technology is key. When you carefully read scripture, it appears that the final antichrist may not have supernatural power or limited supernatural powers. His weapons appear to be deception and lying wonders. In order to control all buying and selling I think we will need to see a worldwide CBDC and improvements to AI. Only through advanced AI can the entire world be surveilled. I think global CBDC's are about 1-2 years away and advanced AI maybe 1 year away. However it could be sooner.

II Thessalonians 2:9-12 NKJV​

The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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I think that the A.C. will be a combination of altered human genetics and A.I. which explains "surviving the headwound".
The whole transhumanism tech sector is purposed with creating the final A.C. that will be presented to the public. Ive overheard some VERY dark conversations regarding this topic in circles of people whom are involved in funding/directing transhumanist type projects.
 
"When you see the abomination of desolation standing in the place that it ought not, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh."

That's the antichrist sitting on the throne in the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and declaring himself to be God. This rebuilding is in the process now.

To be Jewish is not outward but an inward circumcision of the heart. The term "saved" has gotten so much of a stigmatism attached to it that has become cliche to the world. It literally means to have your spirit grafted back into the Spirit of God. THAT is being "saved". My spirit, by the grace of God has been made perfect. The rest of me (mind, will, emotions) is an ongoing lifelong process. We can't even believe in the first place unless God gives it to us to believe. That's what Paul was talking about when he said "Knowing these things, how can we neglect so great a salvation?" No matter what, who, where, when or why, without love we are bankrupt. Completely and utterly bankrupt. Remember in the Bible where Jesus said depart from me I never knew you, even though they claimed to have done this, that and the other. When God the Father looks at those that are genuinely "saved", He doesn't see them, He sees Christ and He is spotless, without blemish, the perfect Lamb of God. There is no remission of sin without the shedding of blood. THAT is what Jesus did on the cross. THAT is why we have hope. In the beginning was God, and the Word was with God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. If a man does not recognize and denies the deity of Jesus, then that man STILL does not know who Christ is. We have been paid for at a price. The highest price. If He knocks at the door of your heart please listen. "If you deny me before men I will deny you before my Father".

I'm a work in progress people. My spirit has been made perfect. The rest has a long way to go. You want an example to follow? Follow Jesus. I'll talk to you about Him all day long. But I'm not Him. Follow me and we'll both wind up in a ditch. The blind leading the blind for without Him I am less than nothing.

Some would say "Well you do this and that!". Yeah. And you do things that are different than what I do. Because your sins are different than mine does that make yours ok? NO! We have all fallen short.

I pray with all I am that I see everyone of you in eternity with Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour.

May God richly bless you all. 🙏
 
Fletcher said:
I think that the A.C. will be a combination of altered human genetics and A.I. which explains "surviving the headwound".
The whole transhumanism tech sector is purposed with creating the final A.C. that will be presented to the public. Ive overheard some VERY dark conversations regarding this topic in circles of people whom are involved in funding/directing transhumanist type projects.
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Don't forget cloning. Instant replacement. The general public is decades in the dark as far as technological advancement. Timing. It won't be successful no matter what. We know that. Unfortunately, and mind boggling to me, is the idea that they know this? But they persist.
 
YHWH is the name given in the OT for God. Some translate this Yahwah or Jahwah or Jehovah or Yehovah. We are uncertain what the vowels are.

Several verses in the OT about YHWH are attributed to Jesus in the NT.

Compare Luke 3:4, Matthew 3:3 and Mark 1:3 with Isaiah 40:3.

Isaiah 40:3 -The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD (YHWH), make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Jesus is YHWH
 
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I haven't read this entire thread so this may already be here somewhere....

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YHWH is alive and well 🙏😃
 

Isaiah Called to Be a Prophet​

6 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord (Adonai) sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple. 2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one cried to another and said:

“Holy, holy, holy is the LORD (YHWH) of hosts;
The whole earth is full of His glory!”
4 And the posts of the door were shaken by the voice of him who cried out, and the house was filled with smoke.

5 So I said:

“Woe is me, for I am [a]undone!
Because I am a man of unclean lips,
And I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips;
For my eyes have seen the King,
The LORD (YHWH) of hosts.”
6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me, having in his hand a live coal which he had taken with the tongs from the altar. 7 And he touched my mouth with it, and said:

“Behold, this has touched your lips;
Your iniquity is taken away,
And your sin [b]purged.”
8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying:

“Whom shall I send,
And who will go for Us?”
Then I said, “Here am I! Send me.”

9 And He said, “Go, and tell this people:

‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand;
Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’
10 “Make the heart of this people dull,
And their ears heavy,
And shut their eyes;
Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart,
And return and be healed.”

Isaiah 6 is probably my favorite OT passage. Isaiah is granted to see the throne room in heaven. In the original it calls the lord in verse one "Adonai" but in verses 3 and 5 the LORD in the original is "YHWH" I have always thought of the one on the throne to be the Father but I was reading an article on John 12 a few days ago and John makes the point that Isaiah was shown the glory of Jesus. Jesus had a preexistent form and that's one of the reasons many Christians see Him as God. Anyway, the new thought for me isn't that Jesus existed in eternity past but the new thought is this account in Isaiah 6 is of preexistent Jesus not the Father. In other words, Jesus is YHWH or Adonai. While on earth Jesus was the emptied God. He emptied Himself of certain attributes and He had limitations. The Infinite became finite. Amazing what He gave up to purchase us back.

Here's the article that made me look at Isaiah 6 differently

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Jesus Is Jehovah, Part 3: “I Have Seen the LORD”

Part 1: Introduction | Part 2: “Prepare Ye the Way” The second example of this phenomenon in the Gospels is a little more complicated; it involves following a bit of a logical path, but the logic i…
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Very good passage. Isaiah realizes he has not known the lord but only superficially. once he understands the Lord sends him to preach to those that will not hear maybe to give them the opportunity to hear and understand. I might have this confused with another passage but that is what I am seeing.
 
Glycomann said:
Very good passage. Isaiah realizes he has not known the lord but only superficially. once he understands the Lord sends him to preach to those that will not hear maybe to give them the opportunity to hear and understand. I might have this confused with another passage but that is what I am seeing.
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I think Isaiah realized how sinful he was in the presence of pure holiness. I relate to him. I think we all do.
 
GYMnTONIC said:
Ok let me ask my first question

Revelations speaks about the Tribulation and the Rapture. It also speaks about many "horsemen"

I see it mention the Eagle, which I get is the USA. The Bear, which I get is Russia.

But what does it all mean. I can't make sense of it. Which comes first? When does it occur?
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What’s your opinion on this, you mentioned the 4 horseman and this video always intrigued me, keep in mind this video 12 years old
 
HFO3 said:
I hear there are grocery carts in super markets in Forest Hills, NY and Long Island, NY that have huge green bags in them, wrapped in saran wrap and are chained to the cart holder, poles and surrounding points of stability. Also I read there are two warships in brighten beach new york visible from the shore.

Who knows if this is true, but we all know the USA has not been run by an American since well before we can Imagine and yeah I mean before Trump too. He is a billionaire elitist den a lifelong Hillary Clinton supporter, he was here as controlled opposition...imagine the accuracy of the databases now hahaha... You better know Jesus today, open the door and ask Him in to eat with you. Which knows if we have tomorrow, not one of us can buy time no matter how successful we are, time isnt for sale, but the devil wants yo to think we have all the time in the world and he has horns and a pitch fork... lol The spirit realm is real and this world will pass but your soul mind and spirit will never pass so figure out today where you wanna spend it, with Jesus or with Satan. Making no choice is a choice. Love you brothers everyone of even you @Vision
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Sharpen your man skills. We are all going to need them.
 

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