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Bible Thread

j2048b said:
So i have to ask this because someone a long time ago explained jesus 2nd coming as already happened?

So after jesus was crucified and "went to hell" i guess its been explained, and rose again 3 days later,

That , this guy explained, was in fact jesus return....?

Anyone ever heard this?



Also, i still do feel as the the "falling away" is the great group of people who fall away from following christ and he allows them to belive the delusion as they have made thier choice....

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Not unlike the jews, christians see Christ's second coming as the coming of their King. A conquering king. Bible clearly uses words like "every eye shall see, trump of an archangel, things melting away with fervent heat, etc, etc, etc." Pretty certain none of that has happened. Christ talked about when He would come again, and the disciples were amped up about it and hoping it was going to happen in their lifetimes.

I agree that the falling away is probably indeed people leaving the church, belief, etc. There may not be any "luke warm" christians when the time comes.
 
socalmk6gti said:
Thank you for sharing this. What a powerful video to watch over morning coffee.

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I'll have to watch this.

I really need to get back involved in this thread. Im missing alot bc I've been so focused on the Election and other things.
 
Gonna do some old testament reading today.
Just read some on Abraham yesterday.

Eat, pound, sleep...
 
Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 NKJV

1 To everything there is a season, A time for every purpose under heaven: 2 A time to be born, And a time to die; A time to plant, And a time to pluck what is planted; 3 A time to kill, And a time to heal; A time to break down, And a time to build up; 4 A time to weep, And a time to laugh; A time to mourn, And a time to dance; 5 A time to cast away stones, And a time to gather stones; A time to embrace, And a time to refrain from embracing; 6 A time to gain, And a time to lose; A time to keep, And a time to throw away; 7 A time to tear, And a time to sew; A time to keep silence, And a time to speak; 8 A time to love, And a time to hate; A time of war, And a time of peace.
 
Multislacking said:
I agree that the falling away is probably indeed people leaving the church, belief, etc. There may not be any "luke warm" christians when the time comes.
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Decades ago we had a Greek assignment where we had to look for every occurrence of the Greek word apostasia in the NT and read the context. I cant remember the exact verse but in Luke there is a passage where the angel physically departs using the same root word. That was a big step for me in embracing a physical departure in 2 Thessalonians 2. Anyway, I have not proof read this article (just skimmed it) but it lays out the concept without me having to type a novel.

https://prophecyupdate.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-departure-of-2-thessalonians-23.html

World English Bible
Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,
 
Great thread guys. I see a huge topic is the rapture. I'm doing my best to catch up on reading. Sorry if this has been done already, but maybe we could make a list of things to happen before the rapture ?
1- the good news will be spread around the entire world. As far as I know the 10-40 lat
long ( middle east, Southern Asia ) is all that's left ?
 
AMA rider said:
Great thread guys. I see a huge topic is the rapture. I'm doing my best to catch up on reading. Sorry if this has been done already, but maybe we could make a list of things to happen before the rapture ?
1- the good news will be spread around the entire world. As far as I know the 10-40 lat
long ( middle east, Southern Asia ) is all that's left ?
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I don't know. You still have tribes in the amazon chucking spears at planes that fly over, soooooo....

And that could be the real hindrance. Tribes that have had "zero" interaction are being kept that way. They are "protecting" them and trying to leave their habitat "unspoiled" so to speak. Here's some for a starter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples


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heavyiron said:
Decades ago we had a Greek assignment where we had to look for every occurrence of the Greek word apostasia in the NT and read the context. I cant remember the exact verse but in Luke there is a passage where the angel physically departs using the same root word. That was a big step for me in embracing a physical departure in 2 Thessalonians 2. Anyway, I have not proof read this article (just skimmed it) but it lays out the concept without me having to type a novel.

https://prophecyupdate.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-departure-of-2-thessalonians-23.html

World English Bible
Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,
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Thank you for constantly pointing this out. Really. Sometimes I'm a little bit too literate when someone says something and I assume we're both talking about the same thing. I'll clarify a little bit. I think there are two separate apostasia...yes, the falling away of the luke warm believers....AND those believers brought up to the Lord. Like you, I dislike the word rapture, as it is not biblical.

I still don't think we get a pass on all the bad stuff though. Maybe. But I'm not counting on it. Knowing me, I'll go back in the house to grab my coat. :p
 
Multislacking said:
I don't know. You still have tribes in the amazon chucking spears at planes that fly over, soooooo....

And that could be the real hindrance. Tribes that have had "zero" interaction are being kept that way. They are "protecting" them and trying to leave their habitat "unspoiled" so to speak. Here's some for a starter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples


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Excellent point. Not the angels, nor the son knows the time. Only the father knows the appointed hour.
2- the whole world shall see his face. I kinda think the Internet n TV have that covered ?
 
AMA rider said:
Excellent point. Not the angels, nor the son knows the time. Only the father knows the appointed hour.
2- the whole world shall see his face. I kinda think the Internet n TV have that covered ?
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Well, I'm sure twitter would be abuzz when He shows up, but that ain't it. If you think about those verses...every eye shall see....will the blind be made whole and have their vision? Everything points to us having a legit physical experience that will not be questionable. No tv, no radio, no telegraph, etc. Remember, if they say He is in the desert, don't believe it. We'll know when it happens and we won't have to discuss it on the ASF news network. The way things are going, I think I'm ready for it.

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Ephesians 3:14-21
PRAYER FOR SPIRITUAL STRENGTH
14 For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might through His Spirit in the inner man, 17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height - 19 to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

20 Now to Him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us, 21 to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus to all generations, forever and ever. Amen.
 
I’m not an a alarmist type of guy but I feel the need to Pray that the USA doesn’t go to war. It seems like we are prime for occupation, between the vast divide in American society, we have so many cities with “defunded police departments” , "sold out governors and mayors” These are uncharted waters for guys our age, I hope I’m overreacting but I gotta ask, do any of you guys feel this way?
 
HFO3 said:
I’m not an a alarmist type of guy but I feel the need to Pray that the USA doesn’t go to war. It seems like we are prime for occupation, between the vast divide in American society, we have so many cities with “defunded police departments” , "sold out governors and mayors” These are uncharted waters for guys our age, I hope I’m overreacting but I gotta ask, do any of you guys feel this way?
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We all need to pray for America, pray for our president and pray that the corruption is exposed no matter if its on the right or left.

I believe we are already at war.
 
Yes we should and yes I agree we have been infiltrated on many levels, Im talking about an “occupation” in America type of war. It seems like an opportunity knocking for ccp, People think they are ready for a war, I dont think we are ready at all, many american homes would not be able to go one week without a trip to the local supermarket.

heavyiron said:
We all need to pray for America, pray for our president and pray that the corruption is exposed no matter if its on the right or left.

I believe we are already at war.
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HFO3 said:
Yes we should and yes I agree we have been infiltrated on many levels, Im talking about an “occupation” in America type of war. It seems like an opportunity knocking for ccp, People think they are ready for a war, I dont think we are ready at all, many american homes would not be able to go one week without a trip to the local supermarket.
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I have been a prepper since the late 90's. I'm good.

Haha
 
I don't know that I'd call myself a prepper, but the wife buys 6 of everything just so we don't *have* to go to the store again in a week. Biblically, we're suppose to trust the Lord to provide for us. The big fear is it may not be in the manner we've become accustomed to (no wonder we get referred to as the "bride"). I do think it is wise to be prepared..."calculate the cost of the tower before building" mindset. Like most things, it's a balancing act of faith and works.

As far as war, America is continuously at war. I don't think China will outright attack us. If Trump stays in power, I can see a scenario in which the left declares him a dictator and seeks UN/China help in deposing him. That is where it gets sticky.
 
Multislacking said:
I don't know that I'd call myself a prepper, but the wife buys 6 of everything just so we don't *have* to go to the store again in a week. Biblically, we're suppose to trust the Lord to provide for us. The big fear is it may not be in the manner we've become accustomed to (no wonder we get referred to as the "bride"). I do think it is wise to be prepared..."calculate the cost of the tower before building" mindset. Like most things, it's a balancing act of faith and works.

As far as war, America is continuously at war. I don't think China will outright attack us. If Trump stays in power, I can see a scenario in which the left declares him a dictator and seeks UN/China help in deposing him. That is where it gets sticky.
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I agree with you, 6 of everything is a time saver but thats prepping for a temporary delay in the chain supply, lol. Im not a prepper by some preppers standards, but I have enough to last several months and stilll live pretty close to the way I do right now, except for gasoline. I have family that has a diesel tank on their property, but they dont even use it... smh. Id have that thing on full and use it rather than a gas station
 
HFO3 said:
I agree with you, 6 of everything is a time saver but thats prepping for a temporary delay in the chain supply, lol. Im not a prepper by some preppers standards, but I have enough to last several months and stilll live pretty close to the way I do right now, except for gasoline. I have family that has a diesel tank on their property, but they dont even use it... smh. Id have that thing on full and use it rather than a gas station
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Haha...yeah, old people hit the panic button when they're down to their last case of kleenex. (Sorry, that's an inside family joke when it comes to buying stuff for the *really* old timers). We'd have to learn to ration some things, but overall it wouldn't be too bad. As far as gas, the US should *not* have a gas shortage in any scenario. Unless someone just flat out passed a law against it or something completely stupid. It would take years of bad policies and poor decisions to make us energy dependent on other nations again.
 
Ya, with 3 boys and 1 grandson, I pray the Lord passes this war away. It's not the old guys like me that would fight it. Do you really think anyone could occupy us ? I prep a little, but subscribe to " you only need one to pick up a real one " , so why spend the money ? Jesus said " blessed are the traders " and for 75 years the world has traded. Americas are supermarket to the world, Asia is labour to the world, middle east is energy to the world. We have shared knowledge of space flight, super colliders, computers, and medicines. I can't help this sinking feeling that that shit is over...
 
What do you guys think the narrative will be when the departure happens?

Will the media say it was aliens that took us in order to remove God from peoples thinking?
 
Philippians 4:4-9 NKJV
Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice! Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand. Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.
 
heavyiron said:
What do you guys think the narrative will be when the departure happens?

Will the media say it was aliens that took us in order to remove God from peoples thinking?
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Spontaneous combustion..... Lol.....they probably won't say anything right away.
 
heavyiron said:
What do you guys think the narrative will be when the departure happens?

Will the media say it was aliens that took us in order to remove God from peoples thinking?
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Haha...*if* it happens that way, yeah. Totally aliens. Depending on your definition of aliens though, God could be considered an alien to us.

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I'm a little jewish in my beliefs though...I think He comes back as a conquering king, no secret departure (I know, I know...I'll watch that video). Any way about it, I hope we're all "taken" when the time comes.
 
I posted this in the Election thread.

Thought u guys might like it here too.

I have a few Bible meme generators I follow on IG.

So while Im posting business threads, alot of things like this pop up.

I did that on purpose to be sure to remember to include spirituality into my daily life. Otherwise I get busy sometimes and forget.

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Brother start with The Gospels, John first . I suggest the ESV, or NKJV for they are translations recommended over interpretations. For now stay away from Revelation & prophetic books, you will only get confused but wait until you get some foundational teaching under your belt. Merry Christmas
 
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“. . . LORD, it is nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power: help us, O LORD our God; for we rest on thee, & in thy name we go against this multitude. O LORD, thou art our God; let not man prevail against thee”
- 2 Chronicles 14:11
 

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