Astro95 USP - Primo 100 & Masteron 200 BLIND TEST RESULTS

[Bigjape34]

I don’t even want answers from this specific source but you guys sucking him off and saying “it is what it is” is why we’re seeing this shit.

The bare minimum a source can do is test raws then finished oils for EVERY batch they make. Obviously the first isn’t happening which is why we’re here now

And no one’s debating that but demanding an answering like a child when you already know not to shop with a sponsor using common sense is assinine

 

[Maxwell]

I don’t even want answers from this specific source but you guys sucking him off and saying “it is what it is” is why we’re seeing this shit.

The bare minimum a source can do is test raws then finished oils for EVERY batch they make. Obviously the first isn’t happening which is why we’re here now

so you didn't read the thread either...

 

[eazy_]

so you didn't read the thread either...

freezing cold take

 

[SB Labs]

We've seen this time and time again from guys buying finished oils or drop shippers. Never knew what the attraction is to members buying from these companies. They fuck up and a simple "hey I'm sorry" and guys seem to forget everything....until the next time. It's obvious the USP is a drop shipper because no home brewer has an international line and domestic too. Maybe I'm mistaken but I believe he has both?
How about the serious bodybuilder running his prep and is all fucked up a few weeks before going on stage? There's a bigger picture here that most are overlooking because in their eyes it's a forgivable offense. Any sponsor that was on a private board and did this would be removed in a heartbeat.
Any sponsor that this is happening to should make a thread asking members that have purchased withinh the last 30 days to send their products out for testing and flip the ENTIRE cost to show integrity and transparency. Im not saying that the same product should be tested twice but he could most likely get 80% of his line tested by his customers.

 

[thebiggestdumbass]

And no one’s debating that but demanding an answering like a child when you already know not to shop with a sponsor using common sense is assinine

so you didn't read the thread either...

My post weren’t about this thread in particular but how sources should be handled in general.

USP isn’t going to explain that’s his choice but you guys jumping to defend his honor is the issue that my prior messages are addressing. Let the source defend himself.

At the end of the day it’s us users against the sources. As we’ve seen, if we don’t advocate for ourselves through testing, they’ll send us whatever the fuck makes them more money

 

[Syntha Claus]

We've seen this time and time again from guys buying finished oils or drop shippers. Never knew what the attraction is to members buying from these companies. They fuck up and a simple "hey I'm sorry" and guys seem to forget everything....until the next time. It's obvious the USP is a drop shipper because no home brewer has an international line and domestic too. Maybe I'm mistaken but I believe he has both?
How about the serious bodybuilder running his prep and is all fucked up a few weeks before going on stage? There's a bigger picture here that most are overlooking because in their eyes it's a forgivable offense. Any sponsor that was on a private board and did this would be removed in a heartbeat.
Any sponsor that this is happening to should make a thread asking members that have purchased withinh the last 30 days to send their products out for testing and flip the ENTIRE cost to show integrity and transparency. Im not saying that the same product should be tested twice but he could most likely get 80% of his line tested by his customers.

I could see that the other two sponsors I got stuff from was re-labeled gear. Most likely Chinese. Because of my poor planning, misfortunate last raw order and logistics, I just had to go with it. That, and I made a commitment to run a log for them.
Aside from our recently departed and long trusted sponsor, the only other stuff I have ever gotten from this forum was yours. And it was obvious that it was "in house". I was unaware before of all this re-labeling shit.
Now that I have become aware of these wholesalers and seen their lists, I get why they do it. Profit without any hassle or dedication to brewing and the expense required to do it properly.
I would just prefer to buy from someone who has sat in front of the beaker and been part of the process. Of course, those guys have fucked us too, but less it seems.

 

[Sector.]

The people in here defending the source are the problem.

No one knows how long this has been going on, and if Astro didn’t do his testing, it probably would have continued on. We also don’t know what other product lines may have been affected by this poor oversight.

Then people are acting like it’s fine or viciously defending the source in every post because they said “sorry”? So basically any source here can mislabel or sell whatever they want as something else, as long as they follow it up with a sorry when they do get caught—and it all just goes away?

 

[Nood]

Any sponsor that this is happening to should make a thread asking members that have purchased withinh the last 30 days to send their products out for testing and flip the ENTIRE cost to show integrity and transparency. Im not saying that the same product should be tested twice but he could most likely get 80% of his line tested by his customers.

I agree with everything you said. Especially this Still waiting to see what announcement they will be making to see if they can make this right.

 

[Nobodyishere]

We've seen this time and time again from guys buying finished oils or drop shippers. Never knew what the attraction is to members buying from these companies. They fuck up and a simple "hey I'm sorry" and guys seem to forget everything....until the next time. It's obvious the USP is a drop shipper because no home brewer has an international line and domestic too. Maybe I'm mistaken but I believe he has both?
How about the serious bodybuilder running his prep and is all fucked up a few weeks before going on stage? There's a bigger picture here that most are overlooking because in their eyes it's a forgivable offense. Any sponsor that was on a private board and did this would be removed in a heartbeat.
Any sponsor that this is happening to should make a thread asking members that have purchased withinh the last 30 days to send their products out for testing and flip the ENTIRE cost to show integrity and transparency. Im not saying that the same product should be tested twice but he could most likely get 80% of his line tested by his customers.

Just don’t bro, all these women in here don’t understand logic

 

[Nood]

Just don’t bro, all these women in here don’t understand logic

How about your kind, the Shims?

 

[Nobodyishere]

How about your kind, the Shims?

I’m a gay guy pretending to be a women whose pretending to be a straight man

 

[SB Labs]

I could see that the other two sponsors I got stuff from was re-labeled gear. Most likely Chinese. Because of my poor planning, misfortunate last raw order and logistics, I just had to go with it. That, and I made a commitment to run a log for them.
Aside from our recently departed and long trusted sponsor, the only other stuff I have ever gotten from this forum was yours. And it was obvious that it was "in house". I was unaware before of all this re-labeling shit.
Now that I have become aware of these wholesalers and seen their lists, I get why they do it. Profit without any hassle or dedication to brewing and the expense required to do it properly.
I would just prefer to buy from someone who has sat in front of the beaker and been part of the process. Of course, those guys have fucked us too, but less it seems.

Gentleman a word from the wise listed above. He's been in the game longer than most and probably brewed just as much. His words mean BUYER BEWARE

 

[Sector.]

Unfortunately with the China situation and the continued raids this is only going to get worse and become more frequent.

Even the most well connected sources are having issues getting certain compounds

 

[Lustyscripps]

Unfortunately with the China situation and the continued raids this is only going to get worse and become more frequent.

Even the most well connected sources are having issues getting certain compounds

Do you think sources switching over to Indian raws could potentially be the answer?

 

[Sector.]

Do you think sources switching over to Indian raws could potentially be the answer?

It would be a long time to get that supply chain in place. Possible? Sure.

Don’t see it happening in the immediate or near future though. I know India has some pharma test that tests well, not sure about much of their other stuff though. If the situation in China doesn’t improve though someone somewhere will have to step up, it just won’t be a quick process

 

[SB Labs]

Do you think sources switching over to Indian raws could potentially be the answer?

No. Because nobody produced raws in the amount that China did. The newer countries that you could get raws from do not even know how to ship the material so even if they do ship it is still has to get by customs which a lot do not.

 

[GrindingGrey]

I am not insinuating that anyone is lying and I have no dog in this fight, but I do find it odd that whenever there’s an issue with a source and they finally address the issue the apology/explanation starts out with 1) they’re having Internet issues and 2) they’re currently traveling. What the hell? Is there some week-long underground steroid convention in Croatia?

 

[Lustyscripps]

It would be a long time to get that supply chain in place. Possible? Sure.

Don’t see it happening in the immediate or near future though. I know India has some pharma test that tests well, not sure about much of their other stuff though. If the situation in China doesn’t improve though someone somewhere will have to step up, it just won’t be a quick process

Definitely- if that were the case the amount of time making that transition would be exhaustingly time consuming.

No. Because nobody produced raws in the amount that China did. The newer countries that you could get raws from do not even know how to ship the material so even if they do ship it is still has to get by customs which a lot do not.

Trump really cracking down on customs. Indian sources don’t strike me as the “ we’ll try our best effort to get through customs” type. Real shitty time to get into this game.

 

[PRorER]

It would be a long time to get that supply chain in place. Possible? Sure.

Don’t see it happening in the immediate or near future though. I know India has some pharma test that tests well, not sure about much of their other stuff though. If the situation in China doesn’t improve though someone somewhere will have to step up, it just won’t be a quick process

Only positive coming out of this is hopefully we’ll see less people using gear/peptides due to less availability. I can only imagine that would limit the exposure of the AAS industry and also create less supply chain issues. Go on any social media page and tons of people are openly advertising, it’s like they want to get busted lol

 

[Vee]

Trusting India as a source for raws is worse than trusting China. Shifty, shady, unscrupulous, backstabbing, cut-throat, cunty “business-men”, if thats what you wanna call them. They’ll kiss your baby on the cheek, while sticking a knife in your back…. If India is the last resort, we’re all in trouble

Also, Dhalsim was the WORST fucking character from Street Fighter. From India, of course.

 

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[Durro NoHurtNoBigShirt]

Trusting India as a source for raws is worse than trusting China. Shifty, shady, unscrupulous, backstabbing, cut-throat, cunty “business-men”, if thats what you wanna call them. They’ll kiss your baby on the cheek, while sticking a knife in your back…. If India is the last resort, we’re all in trouble

Also, Dhalsim was the WORST fucking character from Street Fighter. From India, of course.

People who have been to India say if you are going there to take some Vicks vapor rub with you to put on your upper lip because the smell of urine and feces is everywhere. It smells like a giant Porta Potty.

 

[Skylerjohnson1996]

People who have been to India say if you are going there to take some Vicks vapor rub with you to put on your upper lip because the smell of urine and feces is everywhere. It smells like a giant Porta Potty.

Lmao I wouldn't be worried about a porta potty more like a porta potty that will give you food poisoning while scamming all your money

 

[LukeOvEarth]

The idea of using Indian gear is literally terrifying to me. Not a chance in hell y’all.

 

[Skylerjohnson1996]

The idea of using Indian gear is literally terrifying to me. Not a chance in hell y’all.

I've said it before at this point hamas can produce the raws as long as it's 99 percent real I would be excited

 

[KellogCrush]

@KellogCrush have you read this entire thread? the issue was discussed just not by the owner who's on vacation and has bad internet service. if you did not catch the reason I'd suggest rereading this thread.

Yes, I did. Honestly I’ll just leave it at what I said. If you guys think I’m insane for literally simply requesting he does go into detail on WHY two drugs labels were swapped, then it’s best I just sit back and let the defenders defend.

If everyone seriously thinks I was too harsh, need to ease back or however you want to word it for asking a simple question, I don’t even see a point to the thread beyond shit getting exposed followed by a sorry and reship.

 

[Adi77x1]

Trusting India as a source for raws is worse than trusting China. Shifty, shady, unscrupulous, backstabbing, cut-throat, cunty “business-men”, if thats what you wanna call them. They’ll kiss your baby on the cheek, while sticking a knife in your back…. If India is the last resort, we’re all in trouble

Also, Dhalsim was the WORST fucking character from Street Fighter. From India, of course.

 

[Skylerjohnson1996]

 

[Christoph3Robin]

Hey brotha, if they cut their meat with their sharp toenails what they gonna cut the raws with

 

[Skylerjohnson1996]

Hey brotha, if they cut their meat with their sharp toenails what they gonna cut the raws with

I'll tell you right now the tren gold color will be tumeric