Any aas users trying the peptides? Link possible death?

[Bigbadwolf04]

So currently only using trt and want to add something for the summer. Was looking at cjc and ipa. But researching I saw this study with a possible death being linked to it. Also see a lot of people having histamine reactions. What you guys think about this stuff?

Lipodystrophy study halted after patient death

A Phase II study of a lipodystrophy treatment developed by Canadian biotech company, ConjuChem, has been halted after the death of a study participant. The cause of death and its relationship to the study drug - CJC-1295, a chemically modified version of growth hormone releasing factor (GRF)...

www.aidsmap.com

 

[Meetketchup]

No need to get fancy with peptides or anything else. If you want to use a peptide that will actually yield results, it's GH. Save the money on all the other crap you were thinking of using and buy more GH.

 

[Startingover]

Hmmmm
Gh ya say?

 

[JB4976]

No need to get fancy with peptides or anything else. If you want to use a peptide that will actually yield results, it's GH. Save the money on all the other crap you were thinking of using and buy more GH.

I agree, GH is the King of Peptides

 

[Durro NoHurtNoBigShirt]

So currently only using trt and want to add something for the summer. Was looking at cjc and ipa. But researching I saw this study with a possible death being linked to it. Also see a lot of people having histamine reactions. What you guys think about this stuff?

Lipodystrophy study halted after patient death

A Phase II study of a lipodystrophy treatment developed by Canadian biotech company, ConjuChem, has been halted after the death of a study participant. The cause of death and its relationship to the study drug - CJC-1295, a chemically modified version of growth hormone releasing factor (GRF)...

www.aidsmap.com

Each peptide has its own function or purpose. Some aid in healing some in weight loss etc. I haven’t used any because I have no need, none of them grow muscle. Only one I’ve used is HGH. Peptides are the latest and greatest right now for specific purposes don’t use them unless you have a specific reason for them. Don’t be a “I’m using xxxx and xxxx because a commercial or an influencer or a youtuber told me to or is promoting it!

 

[Jbswole40]

I have heard from many paramedics, medical field people,some believe some just say the amount of $$ you have to spend on peptides to work,meaning proper protocols etc is ridiculous, thousands a month..i believe in hgh.i just started klow.
We will see.

 

[Bigdaddyjak]

I have heard from many paramedics, medical field people,some believe some just say the amount of $$ you have to spend on peptides to work,meaning proper protocols etc is ridiculous, thousands a month..i believe in hgh.i just started klow.
We will see.

Yes , peptides cost alot more and do less then gh !!!

 

[Bigdaddyjak]

Granted there are a few exceptions , such as glp and bpc/tb

 

[Bolan]

Copper peptide is nice

 

[Bigbadwolf04]

Copper peptide is nice

Yea currently on that and it's going good

 

[FearsomeCOR]

So currently only using trt and want to add something for the summer. Was looking at cjc and ipa. But researching I saw this study with a possible death being linked to it. Also see a lot of people having histamine reactions. What you guys think about this stuff?

Lipodystrophy study halted after patient death

A Phase II study of a lipodystrophy treatment developed by Canadian biotech company, ConjuChem, has been halted after the death of a study participant. The cause of death and its relationship to the study drug - CJC-1295, a chemically modified version of growth hormone releasing factor (GRF)...

www.aidsmap.com

There’s also lots of deaths being linked to AAS. I have personally never been concerned with any peptides I’ve used killing me, nor has the thought even entered my mind.

That said I do think the two you mentioned would be inferior to just taking GH.

 

[Razzle Dazzle]

I play. But I had some unusual moves in lab work. I have a hypothesis it’s from KPV as timing aligns. But need retests in a few weeks to prove out before I say more

 

[elit3keraed]

I messed with cjc no dac and ghrp 2 and ghrp 6. The 6 was nice cuz I was starving after each shot but other than that it was a waste.

Why spend a shit ton of money on something I have to dose multiple times a day to get the most benefits and even then I’m not going to get nearly the amount of benefits as I would on straight GH.

For the cost of a 6 month cycle of cjc and ipam I could run 6 months of HGH at over 6 IUs a day…

 

[Meetketchup]

The issue, if being honest, is we don't know yet. Many newer peptides (not the OG's) people are slamming at very high dosages have no human randomized control studies no less knowing what the long-term effects may be. Messing around with things like mitochondria, etc. isn't like taking creatine. They may be perfectly safe, but we don't know and anyone telling you so doesn't know either. Rat studies mean little and can vary greatly when translating to humans.

If people want to take every peptide on the planet, then go for it. Some would rather wait a bit until these things get more refined with at least a couple of years' worth of human trials. It's all about risk tolerance. No right or wrong.

 

[Hablooblah]

I play. But I had some unusual moves in lab work. I have a hypothesis it’s from KPV as timing aligns. But need retests in a few weeks to prove out before I say more

I ran KPV for 4 months, dropped it about 4 weeks before last bloodwork..also had some markers improve. I wont be running it again I didnt see much if anything from it.

 

[Bigbadwolf04]

The issue, if being honest, is we don't know yet. Many newer peptides (not the OG's) people are slamming at very high dosages have no human randomized control studies no less knowing what the long-term effects may be. Messing around with things like mitochondria, etc. isn't like taking creatine. They may be perfectly safe, but we don't know and anyone telling you so doesn't know either. Rat studies mean little and can vary greatly when translating to humans.

If people want to take every peptide on the planet, then go for it. Some would rather wait a bit until these things get more refined with at least a couple of years' worth of human trials. It's all about risk tolerance. No right or wrong.

Yea very true. So in that sense anavar might be the better route cause it's been studied so much, still used in the medical fields, and we know what the side effects are and how to mitigate them best as possible?

 

[Meetketchup]

Yea very true. So in that sense anavar might be the better route cause it's been studied so much, still used in the medical fields, and we know what the side effects are and how to mitigate them best as possible?

Anavar has been used as a treatment for a wide variety of conditions for decades, especially in children. FDA approved with tons of human studies. So, yes.

 

[SharpTack]

I love peptides personally. I’ve reframed my relationship with food and alcohol, im tan and I have healed injuries faster than expected. It’s good to know the symptoms of anaphylaxis and what to do if you have a reaction. I have an epipen at my house just in case. Id probably chew up several benedryls first tho if it wasn’t an extreme emergency.

Agree with others tho. GH is king compared to the secretagogues. But other peptides have their place for sure.

 

[Hablooblah]

I love peptides personally. I’ve reframed my relationship with food and alcohol, im tan and I have healed injuries faster than expected. It’s good to know the symptoms of anaphylaxis and what to do if you have a reaction. I have an epipen at my house just in case. Id probably chew up several benedryls first tho if it wasn’t an extreme emergency.

Agree with others tho. GH is king compared to the secretagogues. But other peptides have their place for sure.

GHK-CU, SS31, Nad+, Reta, MT1, TA-1, and MOTS-C all have a home in my fridge. And all have a good return for the money. I cant speak to the rest but those are what I run and like.

 

[SharpTack]

GHK-CU, SS31, Nad+, Reta, MT1, TA-1, and MOTS-C all have a home in my fridge. And all have a good return for the money. I cant speak to the rest but those are what I run and like.

I can’t say I noticed a difference running the mitochondrial peptides. TA1 isn’t talked about enough. I have allergies and used to always get sinus infections. TA1 has been a game changer for me.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

I use reta, sema, nad+, hcg, ghk-cu, ans I have used hgh extensively over the years, bpc157, tb500, glow, mt2, alpha thymosin -1.

Those are what I regularly use..BUT, in reality ive tried almost every peptide that exists and I am a huge fan of all of them. Ive only ever seen one allergic reaction in the last year and it was a female client on ghk-cu that broke out in full body hives for a day or two.

Sides can happen but are extremely rare in the experiences I have seen. Which number over 1,000 with ease.

The secretagogues have their value. Mk677 for instance can replace more dangerous orals and give a similar bulking style weight gain, water and muscle retention.

And GLPs. What can touch those?. Not much!

Imo they all have significant value but like anything should be used safely and in moderation after being educated upon them

 

[Cuddlesthesheep]

HGH, Reta, and GHK-cu

Seem to be the only worthwhile ones

 

[GYAT]

Anavar has been used as a treatment for a wide variety of conditions for decades, especially in children. FDA approved with tons of human studies. So, yes.

Burn victims primarily early on, young and old, and sometimes along with hgh as well. Sometimes in doses of 100mg a day with not much notation on and bad effects. It then rebuilt a reputation for healing and growth during the AIDS pandemic. It's still "prescribed" almost world wide for those very reason. Most awesome least dangerous oral of all time. Love it would eat em all day every day if I could, and some years I have (10mg pharma oxy good to go, blood work quarterly to prove it 360 days last year positive it put me over the edge of getting bigger stronger leaner overall healthier). Took a 2 month break and cruised all labs good to go, hit my cut 4 pounds past my goal cut weight, packs landing tomorrow with all sorts of new goodies, top of thast list more anavar, LFG.

 

[primalsource]

No need to get fancy with peptides or anything else. If you want to use a peptide that will actually yield results, it's GH. Save the money on all the other crap you were thinking of using and buy more GH.

Spot on. GH is the way to go.

Everyone should perform PLENTY of research before considering, please and thank you!

 

[Meetketchup]

Burn victims primarily early on, young and old, and sometimes along with hgh as well. Sometimes in doses of 100mg a day with not much notation on and bad effects. It then rebuilt a reputation for healing and growth during the AIDS pandemic. It's still "prescribed" almost world wide for those very reason. Most awesome least dangerous oral of all time. Love it would eat em all day every day if I could, and some years I have (10mg pharma oxy good to go, blood work quarterly to prove it 360 days last year positive it put me over the edge of getting bigger stronger leaner overall healthier). Took a 2 month break and cruised all labs good to go, hit my cut 4 pounds past my goal cut weight, packs landing tomorrow with all sorts of new goodies, top of thast list more anavar, LFG.

100% true! You ever see the Anadrol dosages given to kids and duration times? It's mind blowing considering the panic people have of it. lol

 

[Unclemoneybags]

That's a 20 year old news report, on test subjects with AIDS taking extremely large doses of CJC1295. The minimum dose, (excepting the placebo group), was 60mcg per Kg of bodyweight. Some were taking 3 times that amount. For a 60Kg person that would be 3600mcg per week. The max dose of CJC1295 I've seen is up to 300mcg per day. At that rate it's under 1/3 of the dose the lower dose patients were taking.
I can't find the article I saw about this, but I had read the patient had an undiagnosed cardiac issue.