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Am reading this wrong or did i get fucked? "Acutropin Results)

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With the concerns I've seen lately I decided to send in a sample. This is from my recent order from H&B. I posted a touch down and have always had a good interaction with them. I ordered this about three months ago FYI. At first glance, the report looked okay, but then I realized these are 12iu (4mg)/vial. So why does it come back 1.31 mg / 3.93 IU?
 

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Looks like you got fucked, those vials are barely 3.5iu ( think the actual conversion is 1mg = 2.7 iu although it's generally rounded up to 3).

I've also had good experience with H&B, from one order about 1.5 years ago - only oils, some tabs, and some test suspension (which was great btw). Seems like they desperately need to find a new manufacturer though..
 
Is this from the sale like a month ago? I think I got the same batch lol


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I was just gonna buy 40iu vial for $95 shipped from H&B, guess I won’t now….damm
 
It sucks man lol. Eventually I'll send my Primo in for testing so I can find out what the hell it is. At least I'll know if I can use it. It blows me up in 2 weeks with water and will cause aggression and boils. I stopped after four weeks since I had no clue what I was taking.

This shit isn't rocket science. Test your raws before cooking it and selling. It's pretty easy not to fuck over the customers.
 
Jw3man said:
It sucks man lol. Eventually I'll send my Primo in for testing so I can find out what the hell it is. At least I'll know if I can use it. It blows me up in 2 weeks with water and will cause aggression and boils. I stopped after four weeks since I had no clue what I was taking.

This shit isn't rocket science. Test your raws before cooking it and selling. It's pretty easy not to fuck over the customers.
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120mg Primo and 65mg of Test Cyp
 
Snakedaddy said:
Someone tested their primo? I used 3-4 bottles over the last 6 months and have 1 left…. Probably tossing it
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Yeah. Their primo was the 1st of a few bad tests. Came back dosed with Test Cyp. Was like 120/60 or something along those lines. They refunded everyone and blamed it on a rouge employee stealing it and it was just 1 batch. Then others were tested and the same. Then the left.

Or it was @SB Labs and @Nood working together to scam them and @Fletcher uncovered the truth
 
man, guess that’s the risk. Glad we have a forum like this to regulate ourselves. When I started using non pharma gear 2.5 years ago, I found this forum, found SB labs, found jano, sent in the primo for testing and …. Came back exactly as labeled. When their primo ran out, HB slid in the dms and told me they have some…. And that my friends, is how I got got 🫡
 
Believe one test had Test C with the Primo and the other test had Test E and Primo. Those cats had been cutting the Primo for a while and got caught. Bottom line, it's not the first time and it's definitely not the last time. But with all the testing going on these days, it's going to weed out the bullshit labs and put the Solid labs upfront. Definitely going to keep some Honest.
 
JB4976 said:
Those cats had been cutting the Primo for a while and got caught.
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Exactly! Like any company in any business. You pull in your customer base, get their trust, and then you begin increasing the rates, etc.

I true sponsor will test their raws before baking and selling. Do that and be honest with they customer base and you will never have a shortage of customers!
 
Jw3man said:
Exactly! Like any company in any business. You pull in your customer base, get their trust, and then you begin increasing the rates, etc.

I true sponsor will test their raws before baking and selling. Do that and be honest with they customer base and you will never have a shortage of customers!
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Tbf I don’t mind paying more for quality, reliability and security. What they did was charge more for what seemed like quality (all the flash aside) and then sent bunk or underdosed or adulterated product. Different than just raising prices. At least I’m learning about how to vet black market sources better

Seems some long timers here knew H&B wasn’t a quality shop, but it was hard to find that just reading around the forums/reviews and such - and it’s not something people are gonna just randomly shit post about without a precipitating incident (like all the Jano results here). Putting more effort into talking with people who actually have used a given source for a looong time (as H&B even had some good reviews from people using them for while, but not years…) and then trying them out hopefully works better. But always caveat emptor

Like calvin (of same and Hobbs) said, character building experiences tend to suck lol


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JB4976 said:
Believe one test had Test C with the Primo and the other test had Test E and Primo. Those cats had been cutting the Primo for a while and got caught. Bottom line, it's not the first time and it's definitely not the last time. But with all the testing going on these days, it's going to weed out the bullshit labs and put the Solid labs upfront. Definitely going to keep some Honest.
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Can you give me some recommendations on some solid labs? I've been fucked before on gear from sponsors and am always leary.
 
McPriimate said:
Tbf I don’t mind paying more for quality, reliability and security. What they did was charge more for what seemed like quality (all the flash aside) and then sent bunk or underdosed or adulterated product. Different than just raising prices. At least I’m learning about how to vet black market sources better

Seems some long timers here knew H&B wasn’t a quality shop, but it was hard to find that just reading around the forums/reviews and such - and it’s not something people are gonna just randomly shit post about without a precipitating incident (like all the Jano results here). Putting more effort into talking with people who actually have used a given source for a looong time (as H&B even had some good reviews from people using them for while, but not years…) and then trying them out hopefully works better. But always caveat emptor

Like calvin (of same and Hobbs) said, character building experiences tend to suck lol


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Same here, I don't mind paying extra for reliability, honesty and integrity and properly dosed compounds from a Legit Lab.
 
I had several message me over the last year about HB. I was up front with them and told him which products I felt were underdosed were garbage and which ones kicked ass. They're sust 250 and their Masteron prop were good.

Ive received legit gear from psl and SB. Looking forward to trying Azteca and USP. Due to some sources being out of the gear I want I'm trying those two. Based on posts I'm not concerned. I'm sure all legitimate sponsors know the importance of sending quality gear
 
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Jw3man said:
I had several message me over the last year about HB. I was up front with them and told him which products I felt were underdosed were garbage and which ones kicked ass. They're sust 250 and their Masteron prop were good.

Ive received legit gear from psl and SB. Looking forward to trying Azteca and USP. Due to some sources being out of the gear I want I'm trying those two. Based on posts I'm not concerned. I'm sure all legitimate sponsors know the importance of sending quality gear
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Their Sustanon just came back as Test C and NPP half dosed.
 
But always remember good ones can go bad! When they do it happens fast and usually comes to fruition within 6 months
 
Jw3man said:
Lol well shit what the fuck was I taking?! Damnit lol. Now I'm not sure what products to buy because that's sus kicked ass LOL
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Just means your body likes NPP. See, they did you a solid!

Just like the folks who found out they liked test c and e from running their other “blends”

No wonder they sent me a free couple vials of sustanon as a “parting gift.” Luckily I don’t use sust

Wtaf with these guys. Hole just gets deeper lol


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