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What is YOUR Steroid Tier List?

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I would put Trestalone in the D tier. Coming from someone who loved it. I think it has some applications but it will bring in the estrogen, water, and aggression. It is a short duration compound, 2-3 weeks, and 10-25mg daily.

I would put DHB in A minus tier. It's fantastic compound, great muscle builder, strength builder, no added water, 75-150 is a great dose. Compared to test, 4-5 stronger, where tren is 6-8 stronger than a burger.

I put EQ on C - tier, due to the hematocrit issues, crashing e2, too long to reach peak concentration
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Methyl 1 Test, D/F tier.
 
Meetketchup said:
I'm obviously more focused on bodybuilding and aesthetics so a powerlifters opinion would most likely be different.
  • S-tier (Elite): Test E/C, Prop, Anavar
  • A-tier: Primo, Tren A, Anadrol, NPP
  • B-tier: Mast, Deca, EQ, Tren E, Winny (Borderline A)
  • C-tier: DHB, SD, Halo
  • D/F-tier: Ment, Proviron, DBol, TBol
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In your opinion, why do you think some people love Anavar and some people think it's "blah" ?

I've been doing this a long time and I've never tried it, but I was considering this go almost to just get an opinion of it.

Do people expect too much because of all the love it gets? Do you think some people react really well to it and some people don't?

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CompoundLifts31 said:
In your opinion, why do you think some people love Anavar and some people think it's "blah" ?

I've been doing this a long time and I've never tried it, but I was considering this go almost to just get an opinion of it.

Do people expect too much because of all the love it gets? Do you think some people react really well to it and some people don't?

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A couple reasons I believe there are wildly different opinions on Anavar.
1. People not actually getting Anavar, they are actually getting Winstrol or even I heard about Dbol getting passed off as var.
2. I know some guys who just get too ramped up from it. Too much of a CNS hit.


I personally love it. Pharma var is next level shit, and good UGL is also excellent.


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nm156 said:
I would put Trestalone in the D tier. Coming from someone who loved it. I think it has some applications but it will bring in the estrogen, water, and aggression. It is a short duration compound, 2-3 weeks, and 10-25mg daily.

I would put DHB in A minus tier. It's fantastic compound, great muscle builder, strength builder, no added water, 75-150 is a great dose. Compared to test, 4-5 stronger, where tren is 6-8 stronger than a burger.

I put EQ on C - tier, due to the hematocrit issues, crashing e2, too long to reach peak concentration
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Methyl 1 Test, D/F tier.
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Curious, did DHB cause hematocrit issues for you?
 
CompoundLifts31 said:
In your opinion, why do you think some people love Anavar and some people think it's "blah" ?

I've been doing this a long time and I've never tried it, but I was considering this go almost to just get an opinion of it.

Do people expect too much because of all the love it gets? Do you think some people react really well to it and some people don't?

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"Some" people have no idea what they are doing and don't understand how to use var. They are usually not lean and are of the mindset if I don't feel it (Meaning sides) it's not working. They also tend to take too much as a little goes a long way.

Introduce var while lean and in a caloric deficit with proper nitrution and training. That is where it shines and always as a pre workout boost in same situation.

Adding to a "bulking" stack with a shit ton of injectables is pointless IMO.
 
Meetketchup said:
"Some" people have no idea what they are doing and don't understand how to use var. They are usually not lean and are of the mindset if I don't feel it (Meaning sides) it's not working. They also tend to take too much as a little goes a long way.

Introduce var while lean and in a caloric deficit with proper nitrution and training. That is where it shines and always as a pre workout boost in same situation.

Adding to a "bulking" stack with a shit ton of injectables is pointless IMO.
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I agree and also have to say if you get your.hands on real legit VAR you will realize the effectiveness. I think there is still lots a fakes or underdosed var out there.
 
Meetketchup said:
"Some" people have no idea what they are doing and don't understand how to use var. They are usually not lean and are of the mindset if I don't feel it (Meaning sides) it's not working. They also tend to take too much as a little goes a long way.

Introduce var while lean and in a caloric deficit with proper nitrution and training. That is where it shines and always as a pre workout boost in same situation.

Adding to a "bulking" stack with a shit ton of injectables is pointless IMO.
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This is so well said…
 
nm156 said:
This is so well said…
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idk how many reddit posts and posts here I see of people wanting to take anavar at the start of cut being at 25% bodyfat.
I think thats where people get mostly dissapointed. they just use it wrong, and use it with crazy expectations.
most of the people that make these posts are generally on their first cycle as well from what ive seen and just kinda go with the dumb shit reddit/AI says.

They all want to recomp and dont want to lose too much muscle lol.
 
Recomp is dumb! Sorry… but it is.
Front loading a cycle with orals is also dumb. Add all these toxic orals out of the gate pound the liver. Then cut the cycle short because our organs have been damaged. Not a smart move. The hell with Reddit!
 
Ryandenzy said:
Curious, did DHB cause hematocrit issues for you?
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You don't need to worry too much about hematocrit on DHB. It's the making sure you aren't one of the people who react poorly with increased liver values (GGT) and kidney markers. It seems to be hit or miss with people. If you do run DHB make sure it's from a very trusted source. One of those compounds over the years masked with other crap.
 
nm156 said:
Recomp is basically like paddling a boat with one oar. What happens? You go round and round and round. No progress.
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I know you know this, just adding in for people following that for an intermediate to advanced lifter, with shit dialed in you are 100% on point, but up to that point which could mean many scenarios you can re-comp with success. I see it a lot with guys who have been training sub maximally and/or nutrition is lacking. Unfortunately, that is most people. :)
 
Meetketchup said:
"Some" people have no idea what they are doing and don't understand how to use var. They are usually not lean and are of the mindset if I don't feel it (Meaning sides) it's not working. They also tend to take too much as a little goes a long way.

Introduce var while lean and in a caloric deficit with proper nitrution and training. That is where it shines and always as a pre workout boost in same situation.

Adding to a "bulking" stack with a shit ton of injectables is pointless IMO.
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Ahhhh, so it has Masterone type characteristics and is better when sub 10% BF or as preshow drug.

Thank you bro. That makes perfect sense to me.

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dcdogz said:
idk how many reddit posts and posts here I see of people wanting to take anavar at the start of cut being at 25% bodyfat.
I think thats where people get mostly dissapointed. they just use it wrong, and use it with crazy expectations.
most of the people that make these posts are generally on their first cycle as well from what ive seen and just kinda go with the dumb shit reddit/AI says.

They all want to recomp and dont want to lose too much muscle lol.
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This is so true.
50mg of var to end a cut cycle. Now we are talking.
Var is also very underrated in my opinion when it comes to strength gains.
 
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I have pretty extensive cycle experience so I've tried pretty much everything, only two compounds I've never used are halo and primo. Current cycle is 900mg test e/wk, 700 mast e/wk, 140 tren hex/wk, 50mg anadrol/day, 6iu gh/day. Current physique attached.

S tier- test e, mast p, tbol, ment, tren hex
A tier- anadrol, tne, test p, test c, m1t, dhb
B tier- mast e, sus, anavar, winny, tren e
C tier- superdrol, tren a
D tier- eq, bold c
F tier- deca, npp

Hands down favorite cycle was test mast tbol, got a 660 squat, 540 bench, 730 dead on this cycle. Ment is great, feel great and strong and look good but a bit watery. Superdrol is fun but I almost immediately have digestion and lethargy issues and weirdly get edema in my legs, same with m1t, but m1t I get like 10× stronger. My first dhb cycle was s tier but every subsequent cycle has been underwhelming. Every time I use tren I end up getting injured but for some reason hex has been perfect. Eq crashes e2 hard and gives me bad panic attacks. And deca gave me almost irreparable anhedonia and depression for the better part of two years so fuck that.
 

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It's cool seeing everyone's individual tier list based on their preferences based on how they respond. It drives me nuts when newbies will run compounds based on these lists.

@DauntedRex Interesting. Your explanation at the bottom makes sense why you favor drier compounds.
 
Meetketchup said:
It's cool seeing everyone's individual tier list based on their preferences based on how they respond. It drives me nuts when newbies will run compounds based on these lists.

@DauntedRex Interesting. Your explanation at the bottom makes sense why you favor drier compounds.
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Yeah pretty much the only traditionally wet or water retentive compounds I enjoy are ment and anadrol. I feel like theres a lot of fear mongering on ment its what kept me from taking it for so long but I feel its a very good bang for your buck steroid I gain mass and strength very quickly and surprisingly able to run it for a long time and stay healthy on bloods and even blood pressure I guess it can be hit or miss though. Oh forgot dbol would be c tier for me pretty middle of the road don't get nearly as strong as I do with tbol but get a nice look pretty quickly just obliterates my blood pressure and its the only compound that still gives me gyno trouble even after surgery.
 
Meetketchup said:
Based on the ranking system below:
  • S-tier (Elite): Compounds that consistently deliver top-tier results
  • A-tier: Strong performers
  • B-tier: Effective but with some limitations
  • C-tier: Limited utility
  • D/F-tier: Very low utility or not worth it
What are your rankings for the following compounds: (If there is a compound not listed that you like too bad)

Injectables

Test E/C/Sus
Test Prop
Deca
NPP
EQ
Primabolin
Masteron
Tren E
Tren A
DHB
Ment

Orals

Anadrol
Winny
Anavar
Turnabol
DBol
Superdrol
Halo
Proviron

Copy and paste this template and fill in the compound where you believe it should be ranked.
  • S-tier (Elite):
  • A-tier:
  • B-tier:
  • C-tier:
  • D/F-tier:
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copy and paste?
Puts me right on the bench..lol
Curious to see how differant everyone's picks are
Carry on;
 
Startingover said:
copy and paste?
Puts me right on the bench..lol
Curious to see how differant everyone's picks are
Carry on;
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But inquiring minds want to know!
Just hold your finger on the screen on the original post and it’ll highlight everything and copy will pop up. Give a go.


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I really haven't ran many compounds but here it is

S-tier (Elite): Compounds that consistently deliver top-tier results
Cyp,Prop,Anavar and yk-11
had to throw it in lol
A-tier: Strong performers
Npp,tren hex,proviron,tbol,primo
B-tier: Effective but with some limitations
C-tier: Limited utility
D/F-tier: Very low utility or not worth it

I'm just super stoked I copied and pasted!!
LOL
 
Startingover said:
I really haven't ran many compounds but here it is

S-tier (Elite): Compounds that consistently deliver top-tier results
Cyp,Prop,Anavar and yk-11
had to throw it in lol
A-tier: Strong performers
Npp,tren hex,proviron,tbol,primo
B-tier: Effective but with some limitations
C-tier: Limited utility
D/F-tier: Very low utility or not worth it

I'm just super stoked I copied and pasted!!
LOL
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Hell brother! I’m super stoked you copied and pasted.


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Startingover said:
I really haven't ran many compounds but here it is

S-tier (Elite): Compounds that consistently deliver top-tier results
Cyp,Prop,Anavar and yk-11
had to throw it in lol
A-tier: Strong performers
Npp,tren hex,proviron,tbol,primo
B-tier: Effective but with some limitations
C-tier: Limited utility
D/F-tier: Very low utility or not worth it

I'm just super stoked I copied and pasted!!
LOL
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I knew you would put YK in S-Tier. I mean it turned you into granite! Glad you participated.
 
general purpose gym bro list
  • S-tier (Elite): test e, npp, primo, var, tren a
  • A-tier:tbol, winstrol,primo (due to price/purity/faking atm)
  • B-tier: mast, dbol, eq, deca, tren e
  • C-tier: dhb ment adrol super halo
  • D/F-tier: proviron

theres a few here that depending what youre doing would be bumped up to S tier

even tho wasnt on ketchups list, cardarine is s tier too.
 

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