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Has anyone ever dosed their Tren Ace subq daily or any other injectables besides testosterone?

Curious about 70mg a day split into 10mg each day.


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I wouldn't subq tren ace, it doesn't feel good.

If you're only doing 10mg/day just IM with slin pins into your calves, rotate inner left, inner right, outer left, outer right, by the time you get back to inner left, the soreness is gone.
 
Has anyone ever dosed their Tren Ace subq daily or any other injectables besides testosterone?

Curious about 70mg a day split into 10mg each day.


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Some people do daily subq Tren Ace, but dosing and safety vary 70mg/day split is aggressive and should be done only under medical supervision.
 
I used SUBQ everything. Don’t do it. Stupid. Just pin it in the muscle like a real man lol
 
It’s actually crazy how much of a difference BPC works when you really get it in the nitty and gritty and inject it deep versus on the surface subQ. Game changer for my injuries.
I know Right.
 
I don’t even pin my hgh sub q anymore. Hell i jam my BPC 157 and TB 500 so far into my ligaments, it’s unreal.

Wow - for real on the bpc/tb? Like into the ligament and not just the space around it (even deeper than shallow sub-q but not into the ligament)? I haven’t seen great results from BPC. I’ve tried several sources, with and without TB and as KLOW, several doses, and abdominal sub-q vs right next to the joint - but not into the ligament. Too much of a puss to just jam it in I guess Just concerned about further injury or precipitating rupture, so really curious about how you do it and how the results differed. I need me some magic healing potion lol

Sorry for the derailing but this is super interesting


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Some people do daily subq Tren Ace, but dosing and safety vary 70mg/day split is aggressive and should be done only under medical supervision.
.7 mL isn't aggressive when it comes to Tren Ace. He actually mean 10mgs per day, which is .1mL (1/10th) which is almost nothing.

Only problem is, Tren Ace is one of the few compound that doesn't feel great SubQ.

Can it be done? Sure. Does it have a little zip to it? Sure.

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Wow - for real on the bpc/tb? Like into the ligament and not just the space around it (even deeper than shallow sub-q but not into the ligament)? I haven’t seen great results from BPC. I’ve tried several sources, with and without TB and as KLOW, several doses, and abdominal sub-q vs right next to the joint - but not into the ligament. Too much of a puss to just jam it in I guess Just concerned about further injury or precipitating rupture, so really curious about how you do it and how the results differed. I need me some magic healing potion lol

Sorry for the derailing but this is super interesting


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Yeah buddy, once you do it once you get over that fear of jamming it into the ligament. Not saying it’s the smartest thing to do, but I think it’s better personally.
 
After going on 20 years of IM i switched to sub-q daily 8 years ago. I wont switch back to IM as i don't fun that king od load any more that can't be accomplished sib-q. Used T tren E, deca, primo sub-q with no real issues. Sub-q keeps things more stable with less side effects from the hormone swings. Many pro's say that is what they do too.
 
After going on 20 years of IM i switched to sub-q daily 8 years ago. I wont switch back to IM as i don't fun that king od load any more that can't be accomplished sib-q. Used T tren E, deca, primo sub-q with no real issues. Sub-q keeps things more stable with less side effects from the hormone swings. Many pro's say that is what they do too.
You subq tren? That does not feel good. I get a lump every time. I have slight pip for 1-2 days doing it iIM
 
You subq tren? That does not feel good. I get a lump every time. I have slight pip for 1-2 days doing it iIM
I rarely get lumps i keep the dose down as well as the speed of injection which can irritate tissue. The tren was mixed with the TC. How much are you injecting?
 
I rarely get lumps i keep the dose down as well as the speed of injection which can irritate tissue. The tren was mixed with the TC. How much are you injecting?

30mg but it's 30% BB so there's a lot of solvent.
 
.7 mL isn't aggressive when it comes to Tren Ace. He actually mean 10mgs per day, which is .1mL (1/10th) which is almost nothing.

Only problem is, Tren Ace is one of the few compound that doesn't feel great SubQ.

Can it be done? Sure. Does it have a little zip to it? Sure.

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Yeah, exactly 10mg a day is tiny. You can do Tren Ace SubQ, but it usually burns and doesn’t feel great.
 
Hey guys - sorry for digging up topic from 2 months ago but thought better to ask here vs start a new one.

Is there any evidence to subQ working worse than IM? My understanding is that both have 100% absorption and with subQ absorption take little longer (which should be a benefit as levels vary less). I can see how for BP-157 / TB-500 you may want to pin IM into / near injury - but anything other than BPC-157 / TB-500 - does it make any difference?

Here’s the context - been running 500 mg test prop 500 mg tren ace 500 mg master prop per week for last 6 weeks split into 3 injections per week (5 ml per injection) - alternating buttocks. Was going deep (1.5 inch needle inserted to the end) but still got really nasty lumps on my ass. Need to let my ass rest a bit - maybe will try the hot compresses to get rid of the lumps - but decided to switch to subQ - 2 ml per day in 2 x 1 ml injections in belly (yes, I know I am 1 ml short per week). Right now on day 3 (so did 6 x 1 ml gear injections in belly) and doing ok so far. Yes - there is a pinch from tren for 2 hours post injection or so - but then it goes away. Skin is bit irritated but that it.

But given how everyone here is shitting on subQ - wanted to see if there is any actual data / research on it not working as good as IM - or is it just urban legends.
 
Hey guys - sorry for digging up topic from 2 months ago but thought better to ask here vs start a new one.

Is there any evidence to subQ working worse than IM? My understanding is that both have 100% absorption and with subQ absorption take little longer (which should be a benefit as levels vary less). I can see how for BP-157 / TB-500 you may want to pin IM into / near injury - but anything other than BPC-157 / TB-500 - does it make any difference?

Here’s the context - been running 500 mg test prop 500 mg tren ace 500 mg master prop per week for last 6 weeks split into 3 injections per week (5 ml per injection) - alternating buttocks. Was going deep (1.5 inch needle inserted to the end) but still got really nasty lumps on my ass. Need to let my ass rest a bit - maybe will try the hot compresses to get rid of the lumps - but decided to switch to subQ - 2 ml per day in 2 x 1 ml injections in belly (yes, I know I am 1 ml short per week). Right now on day 3 (so did 6 x 1 ml gear injections in belly) and doing ok so far. Yes - there is a pinch from tren for 2 hours post injection or so - but then it goes away. Skin is bit irritated but that it.

But given how everyone here is shitting on subQ - wanted to see if there is any actual data / research on it not working as good as IM - or is it just urban legends.
I have done subq test with bloodwork and the two major differences, at least for me, were longer saturation time and lower e2. Just for shits and giggles, let’s say you’re shooting for a total test level of 1,500. Pinning IM will get you there much faster, whereas pinning subq will take several weeks to get there, if done reasonably (not trying to shoot large volumes in fat). My e2 was substantially lower pinning subq which is a huge benefit for me. I hate running all sorts of shit to mask or eliminate sides from running other shit. Ultimately you will achieve the same blood saturation level with subq, just takes longer. I pin mostly in the ass fat, not the midsection fwiw. Hardly ever get any lumps, redness or tenderness that way. Pin up to .5 ml at a time as well.
 
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I have done subq test with bloodwork and the two major differences, at least for me, were longer saturation time and lower e2. Just for shits and giggles, let’s say you’re shooting for a total test level of 1,500. Pinning IM will get you there much faster, whereas pinning subq will take several weeks to get there, if done reasonably (not trying to shoot large volumes in fat). My e2 was substantially lower pinning subq which is a huge benefit for me. I hate running all sorts of shit to mask or eliminate sides from running other shit. Ultimately you will achieve the same blood saturation level with subq, just takes longer. I pin mostly in the ass fat, not the midsection fwiw. Hardly ever get any lumps, redness or tenderness that way. Pin up to .5 ml at a time as well.
Longer saturation shouldn't be an issue since I have been running IM for 6 weeks already and am not increasing dose - so am probably already at steady saturation levels.

My primary concern / question is whether subQ has worse absorption / works not a good - and will the levels drop due to switching from IM to subQ - which based on what you are writing - they shouldn't. Thank you for the input !
 
what about pinning IM in your delts or quads @PeterSJSV ? is there a particular reason for just using glutes?

Well I could do quads / delts I guess but that would mean splitting dose into more injections even (I am pinning 5 ml per injection in glutes at the moment and can't pin that much in delts / quads - I pinned 3 ml in quads the most, and I never actually tried delts). Issue is that I never had any lumps after pinning in glutes - it's my 11th cycle, and also not first time doing tren.

So I am worried that if I pin in glutes / delts - I will also get lumps there - and that is more problematic than lumps in glutes - probably would prevent me from training quads / delts. Am on 4th day of subQ - and I will take 2 hrs of pinch in belly over the lumps in glutes / delts / quads. Not interested in this "real men pin deep" bs - and comfort / ability to train wise - subQ works for me better at the moment than IM.

My only question / concern is whether subQ works worse / has less absorption than IM - and is there any real data / research behind that.
 
Well I could do quads / delts I guess but that would mean splitting dose into more injections even (I am pinning 5 ml per injection in glutes at the moment and can't pin that much in delts / quads - I pinned 3 ml in quads the most, and I never actually tried delts). Issue is that I never had any lumps after pinning in glutes - it's my 11th cycle, and also not first time doing tren.

So I am worried that if I pin in glutes / delts - I will also get lumps there - and that is more problematic than lumps in glutes - probably would prevent me from training quads / delts. Am on 4th day of subQ - and I will take 2 hrs of pinch in belly over the lumps in glutes / delts / quads. Not interested in this "real men pin deep" bs - and comfort / ability to train wise - subQ works for me better at the moment than IM.

My only question / concern is whether subQ works worse / has less absorption than IM - and is there any real data / research behind that.
If you’re getting lumps in your ass , last thing I would ever consider is shooting quads . You won’t walk for a week !! I would probably switch up my gear if pip that bad ! Dilute it and see what happens .
 
If you’re getting lumps in your ass , last thing I would ever consider is shooting quads . You won’t walk for a week !! I would probably switch up my gear if pip that bad ! Dilute it and see what happens .
My thoughts exactly!

Interestingly I did 8 x 1 ml subQ injections in belly (0.33 ml test, 0.33 ml tren, 0.33 mast so tren which I expect is cause of lumps is only one third of the syringe) - and so far so good - no lumps on belly, 2-3 hours of discomfort post injection (it's a pinch but tolerable) - and then good. So thinking of sticking to subQ until end of this cycle and hopefully will get rid of lumps on my ass by the time I strat next cycle.

Gear is one of the top labs on this forum - definitely powerful - kicks hard. Just pip / lumps are brutal - never had anything like that but subQ working for me for now (it's day 4 of subQ).
 

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