H&B Blind Test Results Take 2

[Nood]

Since H&B said my results where not REAL I sent out 3 unopened vials of there Gear to get test.. 2 where from Oct 2024 which consisted of 1 Masteron E and 1 Primo 200.. Now I purchased 4 primo 200 in oct and 3 early July 2025. 4 of them have a yellow tint and 3 are crystal clear. According to H&B the yellow tint ones are not the bad batch and should be good so that’s what I sent. I also sent 1 Masteron E from early Aug 2025.
All of these are unopened with documentation of it. Received the results today. Now this was not cheap, totaled 500 in testing and 300 in unopened gear. I mainly did this for the community or I would have sent samples and instead of flushing money down the toilet!

 

[Nood]

 

[Halfi]

U should get half there rent from Arnold if they pay this month that shit is crazy.

 

[Halfi]

Whatcha got to say about this one u slimey piece of shit? @Hammer&Bell

 

[ERock5]

Bro I hate you even spent your money to prove what we already knew. We never thought you was a liar. We knew where the problem was!

 

[AR-15]

So the one that tested over. Is that an older Mast?

 

[Nood]

Whatcha got to say about this one u slimey piece of shit? @Hammer&Bell

They said if documentation showed it’s not opened They will give refunds? But hey they did block me from there website so we will see

 

[Nood]

So the one that tested over. Is that an older Mast?

Yes that was from oct last year

 

[Nood]

Bro I hate you even spent your money to prove what we already knew. We never thought you was a liar. We knew where the problem was!

I needed to know what I had also. I still have more at home, so I sacrificed these 3.

 

[HFO4]

@Fletcher @Hammer&Bell & Frank Bell its dinner time...

 

[BC22]

I needed to know what I had also. I still have more at home, so I sacrificed these 3.

So wait is that an old primo from last year that tested shitty?

 

[FearsomeCOR]

I mainly did this for the community or I would have sent samples and instead of flushing money down the toilet!

Even though I don’t have any of these products, I appreciate what you’re doing for the community brotha

 

[FearsomeCOR]

@Fletcher @Hammer&Bell & Frank Bell its dinner time...

Last seen one min ago no excuses

 

[AR-15]

Yes that was from oct last year

Ok so it could be isolated to the new Primo and Mast. Hopefully anyway so the guys sitting on older or different gear are ok.

 

[Nood]

So wait is that an old primo from last year that tested shitty?

I mixed them up with my new ones. That’s why I contacted H&B and asked them since 3 where clear and 4 where yellow which is usually test cyp. They said the clear ones where the Bad batch, which made sense since 3 where recently purchased

 

[BC22]

Ok so it could be isolated to the new Primo and Mast. Hopefully anyway so the guys sitting on older or different gear are ok.

No I believe the primo he sent is from Oct 24. So the thief they caught on camera has been sneaking around for at least 10 months. Gonna have a lot of security footage to go through….will take at least 30 minutes this time around.

 

[Nood]

No I believe the primo he sent is from Oct 24. So the thief they caught on camera has been sneaking around for at least 10 months.

Hard to believe the thief story at this point bro!

 

[BC22]

Hard to believe the thief story at this point bro!

Haha tell me about it. Hopefully the sarcasm came through.

 

[REHH]

U should get half there rent from Arnold if they pay this month that shit is crazy.

You have my vote, we don’t get paid anymore to moderate or I’d give you my mod money 100%
i would be for any donation for your costs. You did the community a big favor and we owe you

 

[BC22]

You have my vote, we don’t get paid anymore to moderate or I’d give you my mod money 100%
i would be for any donation for your costs. You did the community a big favor and we owe you

I’m with you. I would 100% donate to help make @Nood whole.

 

[Nood]

You have my vote, we don’t get paid anymore to moderate or I’d give you my mod money 100%
i would be for any donation for your costs. You did the community a big favor and we owe you

Appreciate that man! I don’t like being called a liar then being blocked from accessing my acct history on there website. Hey atleast I took screen shots before they did it

 

[Lustyscripps]

Since H&B said my results where not REAL I sent out 3 unopened vials of there Gear to get test.. 2 where from Oct 2024 which consisted of 1 Masteron E and 1 Primo 200.. Now I purchased 4 primo 200 in oct and 3 early July 2025. 4 of them have a yellow tint and 3 are crystal clear. According to H&B the yellow tint ones are not the bad batch and should be good so that’s what I sent. I also sent 1 Masteron E from early Aug 2025.
All of these are unopened with documentation of it. Received the results today. Now this was not cheap, totaled 500 in testing and 300 in unopened gear. I mainly did this for the community or I would have sent samples and instead of flushing money

Since H&B said my results where not REAL I sent out 3 unopened vials of there Gear to get test.. 2 where from Oct 2024 which consisted of 1 Masteron E and 1 Primo 200.. Now I purchased 4 primo 200 in oct and 3 early July 2025. 4 of them have a yellow tint and 3 are crystal clear. According to H&B the yellow tint ones are not the bad batch and should be good so that’s what I sent. I also sent 1 Masteron E from early Aug 2025.
All of these are unopened with documentation of it. Received the results today. Now this was not cheap, totaled 500 in testing and 300 in unopened gear. I mainly did this for the community or I would have sent samples and instead of flushing money down the toilet!
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Fucking real one brother. Thank you for doing this for the community. I’m beyond livid. I’ve so far gone through 2 blasts (only time ever trying primo) with this bunk ass gear. Looks like I’ve never tried Primo! Haha! Fuck you H&B and fuck you even more Fletcher you bunch of conniving fucking CUNTS

 

[Astro95]

There was only 1 isolated incident, APG brews single vial batches what are y’all talking about? Definitely rigged.

 

[yinjuju]

I’m confused please forgive me for some context.

So primo vial you got tested - that’s from their “bad” batch of primo that whole ordeal was about, or was the primo ordered a while back?

The good MASTERON, that’s old MASTERON from 6+ months ago? And the bad MASTERON, that’s the same one from the previously reported test in your other thread, the most recent MASTERON purchased?

 

[REHH]

Appreciate that man! I don’t like being called a liar then being blocked from accessing my acct history on there website. Hey atleast I took screen shots before they did it

You did good,
I’ll work on something for you, I might send you some of my primo or something. , but you have to promise not to test it …..lol
Just kidding

 

[FearsomeCOR]

You did good,
I’ll work on something for you, I might send you some of my primo or something. , but you have to promise not to test it …..lol
Just kidding

Mod doin some dope mod shit. Love to see it.

We should all honestly also thank HB for bringing the community together like this. I’ll toss in a vial of mast for @Nood if he wants it, dm me homie.

 

[Nood]

I’m confused please forgive me for some context.

So primo vial you got tested - that’s from their “bad” batch of primo that whole ordeal was about, or was the primo ordered a while back?

The good MASTERON, that’s old MASTERON from 6+ months ago? And the bad MASTERON, that’s the same one from the previously reported test in your other thread, the most recent MASTERON purchased?

One Masteron was from 6months ago after there initial testing. Then a new one from a few weeks ago.. I wrote earlier the Primo I mixed up so contacted H&B since I had 4 that had a yellow tint and 3 where clear.. now I bought 4 in Oct and 3 this July, H& B said and I quote”The Clear ones are the current Batch and the ones with yellow tint are good” I’ll find the message and post it. Anyway that made sense to me since 4 where older and 3 where not.

 

[yinjuju]

One Masteron was from 6months ago after there initial testing. Then a new one from a few weeks ago.. I wrote earlier the Primo I mixed up so contacted H&B since I had 4 that had a yellow tint and 3 where clear.. now I bought 4 in Oct and 3 this July, H& B said and I quote”The Clear ones are the current Batch and the ones with yellow tint are good” I’ll find the message and post it. Anyway that made sense to me since 4 where older and 3 where not.

So just so I know for my own personal stock because I did buy primo long before this issue, like back in march from them… the yellow one you tested is the one that had good results? PLEASE tell this is true lol. Thanks for the testing. If I had some extra stuff I’d give it to you as well.

 

[Nood]

So just so I know for my own personal stock because I did buy primo long before this issue, like back in march from them… the yellow one you tested is the one that had good results? PLEASE tell this is true lol. Thanks for the testing. If I had some extra stuff I’d give it to you as well.

Hope this helps clear it up.. I don’t trust any of there primo at this point

 

[McPriimate]

Thanks for this. Gut punch on top of gut punch for those of us who have a big H&B stash, but I’m thanking the messenger here!

If every bottle is potentially different and the batch numbers don’t help, I can’t even test my way into using the rather large stockpile of their gear that i have.

At least the test cyp has been giving me expected bloodwork results, but i can’t trust any of the other oils.

I had enough for many “old man” cycles stored up against the gear-pocalypse, but now I’m gonna trash the stash and buy it all again.

Off to search for great sponsor, having learned a noob lesson the hard way. Was a lot more fun buying all this shit and looking forward to using it than re-buying it…

Ok, time to start shopping en mass

Fuck (and thanks again brother)


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