Bible Thread

[Sarumann]

It's such a profound passage with layers of meaning. The idea that Isaiah saw the glory of Jesus in that heavenly vision is indeed intriguing. It highlights the divinity of Christ, his preexistence, and the sacrifice he made for us.

 

[Sarumann]

Isaiah Called to Be a Prophet​

6 In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord (Adonai) sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the temple. 2 Above it stood seraphim; each one had six wings: with two he covered his face, with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. 3 And one cried to another and said:

“Holy, holy, holy is the LORD (YHWH) of hosts;
The whole earth is full of His glory!”
4 And the posts of the door were shaken by the voice of him who cried out, and the house was filled with smoke.

5 So I said:

“Woe is me, for I am [a]undone!
Because I am a man of unclean lips,
And I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips;
For my eyes have seen the King,
The LORD (YHWH) of hosts.”
6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me, having in his hand a live coal which he had taken with the tongs from the altar. 7 And he touched my mouth with it, and said:

“Behold, this has touched your lips;
Your iniquity is taken away,
And your sin [b]purged.”
8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying:

“Whom shall I send,
And who will go for Us?”
Then I said, “Here am I! Send me.”

9 And He said, “Go, and tell this people:

‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand;
Keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’
10 “Make the heart of this people dull,
And their ears heavy,
And shut their eyes;
Lest they see with their eyes,
And hear with their ears,
And understand with their heart,
And return and be healed.”

Isaiah 6 is probably my favorite OT passage. Isaiah is granted to see the throne room in heaven. In the original it calls the lord in verse one "Adonai" but in verses 3 and 5 the LORD in the original is "YHWH" I have always thought of the one on the throne to be the Father but I was reading an article on John 12 a few days ago and John makes the point that Isaiah was shown the glory of Jesus. Jesus had a preexistent form and that's one of the reasons many Christians see Him as God. Anyway, the new thought for me isn't that Jesus existed in eternity past but the new thought is this account in Isaiah 6 is of preexistent Jesus not the Father. In other words, Jesus is YHWH or Adonai. While on earth Jesus was the emptied God. He emptied Himself of certain attributes and He had limitations. The Infinite became finite. Amazing what He gave up to purchase us back.

Here's the article that made me look at Isaiah 6 differently

Jesus Is Jehovah, Part 3: “I Have Seen the LORD”

Part 1: Introduction | Part 2: “Prepare Ye the Way” The second example of this phenomenon in the Gospels is a little more complicated; it involves following a bit of a logical path, but the logic i…

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It's such a profound passage with layers of meaning. The idea that Isaiah saw the glory of Jesus in that heavenly vision is indeed intriguing. It highlights the divinity of Christ, his preexistence, and the sacrifice he made for us. It's incredible to reflect on how Jesus, the Infinite, became finite during his earthly life to redeem us. Sacrificing certain attributes to purchase our redemption shows the depth of his love.
If you're still exploring this topic, I came across a resource that might provide more insights when you need God.

 

[Thechemicals]

I just finished audio book The first 5 bibles.

 

[heavyiron]

It's such a profound passage with layers of meaning. The idea that Isaiah saw the glory of Jesus in that heavenly vision is indeed intriguing. It highlights the divinity of Christ, his preexistence, and the sacrifice he made for us. It's incredible to reflect on how Jesus, the Infinite, became finite during his earthly life to redeem us. Sacrificing certain attributes to purchase our redemption shows the depth of his love.
If you're still exploring this topic, I came across a resource that might provide more insights when you need God.

I'm constantly researching scripture so feel free to post your resource.

Jesus (Yeshua) is YHWH in my opinion.

 

[Nobodyishere]

Was listening to the Christian radio station and…..,

I’m so sick of hearing about people talking about “getting ready for the rapture“.
Number one: you don’t know when it’s coming. How are you getting ready for it?

Number two: what the actual F am I supposed to be getting ready for? I’m leaving I’m going to heaven.

Stop with this BS fear crap that these Christian circles keep trying to monger on people.

 

[Thechemicals]

My helper at work and almost every Christian I've encountered believes something like a rapture or bi lical event will happen in their lifetime. The self absorbed self centered attitude is just further proof that God is not what anyone believes it is, especially not the devout.

 

[Nobodyishere]

My helper at work and almost every Christian I've encountered believes something like a rapture or bi lical event will happen in their lifetime. The self absorbed self centered attitude is just further proof that God is not what anyone believes it is, especially not the devout.

“The self absorbed self centered attitude” okay im following you here

“Just further proof that God is not what anyone believes it is, especially not the devout”
Although I’m picking up some of what ur saying, I don’t fully grasp your point? Would u be willing to elaborate some more? I’d enjoy understanding ur perspective more.

 

[Milford King]

“The self absorbed self centered attitude” okay im following you here

“Just further proof that God is not what anyone believes it is, especially not the devout”
Although I’m picking up some of what ur saying, I don’t fully grasp your point? Would u be willing to elaborate some more? I’d enjoy understanding ur perspective more.

I’m guessing he believes in God but thinks “religion” is all bullshit. I used to be of that mind too…. And although I understand man corrupts everything and we could not possibly see the world through Gods “eyes” I do think the Bible is a trustworthy interpretation of man’s history with God as well as human ethics.

I figured I’d answer for him cuz, you know, I’m self centered. Lol

 

[Milford King]

Was listening to the Christian radio station and…..,

I’m so sick of hearing about people talking about “getting ready for the rapture“.
Number one: you don’t know when it’s coming. How are you getting ready for it?

Number two: what the actual F am I supposed to be getting ready for? I’m leaving I’m going to heaven.

Stop with this BS fear crap that these Christian circles keep trying to monger on people.

I agree.

However I believe we fathers and husbands have an obligation to prepare, not for the rapture of God, but as a defensive position to the future evil of society.

 

[Multislacking]

I agree.

However I believe we fathers and husbands have an obligation to prepare, not for the rapture of God, but as a defensive position to the historical, current, and future evil of society.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[heavyiron]

I agree.

However I believe we fathers and husbands have an obligation to prepare, not for the rapture of God, but as a defensive position to the future evil of society.

Agreed,

We are literally warned to watch for His return. There are many other commands but that's why I watch. The present-day Holy Spirit filled Church is currently restraining evil. Thats one of our functions. In other words. Do good!

 

[Nobodyishere]

I’m guessing he believes in God but thinks “religion” is all bullshit. I used to be of that mind too…. And although I understand man corrupts everything and we could not possibly see the world through Gods “eyes” I do think the Bible is a trustworthy interpretation of man’s history with God as well as human ethics.

I figured I’d answer for him cuz, you know, I’m self centered. Lol

The Bible is inerrant - humans are not. Do research on the groups that do the Bible translations and commentary. - that’s where Satan is working his hardest.

Yes religion is 100% bs in everywhere. Jesus came to end the slavery of religion. I am not a “Christian” - I’m a man who gave his heart to Christ and I try my hardest to walk with him.

 

[Milford King]

The Bible is inerrant - humans are not. Do research on the groups that do the Bible translations and commentary. - that’s where Satan is working his hardest.

Yes religion is 100% bs in everywhere. Jesus came to end the slavery of religion. I am not a “Christian” - I’m a man who gave his heart to Christ and I try my hardest to walk with him.

That means your a Christian bro. Don’t get hung up on semantics. I’m right there with ya. We are the church.

Just remember to spread the gospel. For if you do the Lords work, you are a catcher of souls.

 

[Nobodyishere]

We are the church.

 

[Nobodyishere]

Run up on a demon Yeah I get my stuff back
Click clack bang I don't talk cuz I does that
Script in the clip When I bust it don't bust back
Demons in endzone
Nah that's a touch back rush that
Sack on the play I'ma crush that

 

[Nobodyishere]

Immanuel, catch you when you fall
He the hand you held
Like even if you went and
Made your bed in hell
He'd be knocking at the
Door like "Housekeeping!"
Let Him in, kick out demons
Treat that evil like a cancer cell
Radiation from this salvation and he
Done paid your medical bill

 

[Nobodyishere]

Will I pay the price for rejectin' everything You gave?
How much does Your grace cost when I face off with my past
And I lose the game?
Build a sand castle outta fear and
Now I pray that You'll send a wave
Will You renovate? Will You terminate?
If You're even there, You just probably hate me
Grab me by my hand and I felt the spirit movin' my heart
Said I'll live again and that all I did is nailed to the cross
I could never estimate the price you pay to forgive my fault then
I said, "Lord, I could not repay this"
He said, "Boy, you gon' have to face it"

 

[Thechemicals]

I’m guessing he believes in God but thinks “religion” is all bullshit. I used to be of that mind too…. And although I understand man corrupts everything and we could not possibly see the world through Gods “eyes” I do think the Bible is a trustworthy interpretation of man’s history with God as well as human ethics.

I figured I’d answer for him cuz, you know, I’m self centered. Lol

I did not respond because, I dont believe in religion or God's, and this thread is filled with believers, so who am I to start a discussion that I already know all the responses to.

 

[Milford King]

There are two races that exist in the spiritual world.
Those that lust after the treasures of this world, knowingly or unknowingly waging war on behalf of death. And those that fight for life under the authority of the light, the truth.

May the new revolution bring peace and enlightenment for everyone who seeks it and those who do not.

Happy new year!

 

[Nobodyishere]

There are two races that exist in the spiritual world.
Those that lust after the treasures of this world, knowingly or unknowingly waging war on behalf of death. And those that fight for life under the authority of the light, the truth.

May the new revolution bring peace and enlightenment for everyone who seeks it and those who do not.

Happy new year!

I needed to read this just now. Thanks, you’re doing the Lords work my anonymous acquaintance on the internet.

 

[heavyiron]

The deity of Christ is a subject that is sometimes hard to understand but its embedded all over the Bible. From a friend of mine.

TWO JEHOVAHS? (part 1 - Old Testament)
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Genesis 19:24-29 Then the LORD (Jehovah) rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD (Jehovah) out of the heavens. 25 So He overthrew those cities, all the plain, all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground. 26 But his wife looked back behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. 27 And Abraham went early in the morning to the place where he had stood before the Lord (Jehovah). 28 Then he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain; and he saw, and behold, the smoke of the land which went up like the smoke of a furnace. 29 And it came to pass, when God (Elohim) destroyed the cities of the plain, that God (Elohim) remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when He overthrew the cities in which Lot had dwelt.
This is amazing! The text says in verse 24 that the LORD on the earth (Jehovah who was visiting Abraham) called down destruction from the LORD (Jehovah) in the heavens! We have already seen that God the Son appeared in a pre-incarnate form many times in the Old Testament. Here, in Genesis 19:24, Jehovah (God the Son) called down brimstone and fire from Jehovah (God the Father). We see this duality expressed further in the passage above in verse 29. it says that Elohim – a plural! – destroyed the cities, whereas verse 25 says Jehovah (Father and Son in unison) overthrew them.
Some Bible versions omit the second Jehovah in verse 19. I’m not sure why. Maybe they don’t understand the implication; or they do, but don’t like what the verse is saying. The word-for-word Bible translations are faithful to the Hebrew text, which has Jehovah (יְהוָ֖ה YHWH) twice. This includes the KJV, NKJV, NASB, NIV, ASV, ESV, RSV, NRSV, Amplified, Geneva, CSB, Emphasized, Young’s and Darby’s translations.
We see this duality of God as far back as Genesis 1:1 - "In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heavens and the earth." Elohim in the Hebrew is a plural. That’s why it says in Genesis 1:26a - Then God (Elohim) said, “Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness;” God used plural personal pronouns to refer to Himself!
This duality is also present in the Hebrew Shema of Deuteronomy 6:4-5 - “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one! 5 You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.”
Verse 4 is literally, “Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our Elohim is one Jehovah!” In Hebrew, there is a word for “one” which denotes a singularity, e.g., the earth has one (1) moon. There is another word for “one” in the Hebrew that denotes a plurality, a compound unity. A good example of this is in Genesis 2:24, speaking of the union of a husband and wife: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become ONE flesh.” The word “one” here is the same as we find in the Shema. Adam and Eve were co-equals; they were of the same essence (human); yet, they were separate, distinct beings. So it is with God the Father and God the Son. They are co-equal, and of the same essence (God), but yet separate and distinct Persons. Jesus Christ - God the Son - is indeed God!

 

[Tinypeter]

NLT version here.

 

[E.J.D]

A Long video but quite the interesting watch

 

[JC33]

Romans 12:2 NIV​

Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

This has always stuck with me.

 

[GiantSlayer3]

The beginning will be like the end. With massive depopulation caused by covid 19 shots along with the date on enochs calendar the end is closer than you can imagine. ( 5988 is the actual year )
In the books of Adam and Eve , God tells Adam the earth will last 6000 years and those remaining on earth after the anti christ and rapture will live 1000 years. So technically if you survive the next 12 years you'll live 1000 years . I go by KJV and I listen to the removed books on YouTube.
ENOCH was my 111th great grandfather, Noah 108 , Barnabas/zeus 99th , Aeneas 92nd .

The rapture already started . You can't prepare . You can only hope your name is written in the book of life or else you'll be thrown in to the lake of fire immediately when Jesus arrives

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[heavyiron]

The beginning will be like the end. With massive depopulation caused by covid 19 shots along with the date on enochs calendar the end is closer than you can imagine. ( 5988 is the actual year )
In the books of Adam and Eve , God tells Adam the earth will last 6000 years and those remaining on earth after the anti christ and rapture will live 1000 years. So technically if you survive the next 12 years you'll live 1000 years . I go by KJV and I listen to the removed books on YouTube.
ENOCH was my 111th great grandfather, Noah 108 , Barnabas/zeus 99th , Aeneas 92nd .

The rapture already started . You can't prepare . You can only hope your name is written in the book of life or else you'll be thrown in to the lake of fire immediately when Jesus arrives

Sent from my SM-A526U1 using Tapatalk

5990 or 5991

 

[JC33]

The beginning will be like the end. With massive depopulation caused by covid 19 shots along with the date on enochs calendar the end is closer than you can imagine. ( 5988 is the actual year )
In the books of Adam and Eve , God tells Adam the earth will last 6000 years and those remaining on earth after the anti christ and rapture will live 1000 years. So technically if you survive the next 12 years you'll live 1000 years . I go by KJV and I listen to the removed books on YouTube.
ENOCH was my 111th great grandfather, Noah 108 , Barnabas/zeus 99th , Aeneas 92nd .

The rapture already started . You can't prepare . You can only hope your name is written in the book of life or else you'll be thrown in to the lake of fire immediately when Jesus arrives

Sent from my SM-A526U1 using Tapatalk

Can you explain this to me in easier terms to understand. How does your name get in the book? Solely by accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior?

 

[OlePhart]

Romans 10:9-10
King James Version
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation

 

[OlePhart]

John 1
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not



He is God become man. His deity is undeniable. A man has to know this and believe or He's just a man. That's not the case.

 

[heckler7]

only 144,000 souls will be raptured, and that is from all that ever existed, so do you think you even have a chance? keep in mind there are 8 billion people on earth right now, and 117 billion existed on earth