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Annoying New Guy Questions(PIP)

Swollbroham-Jenkin

Swollbroham-Jenkin

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Looking for some guidance. I have done my due diligence and research. I am using 350mg of test a week, broke into two injections. 50PROP/150CYP/150ENAN. Beligas, and before that I tried another brand, Magnus. I do IM and have even tried SubQ. On the second day after IM my muscle tightens up painfully, small lump. SubQ leaves big lumps. I've tried 23-27g needles, warming the oil, massaging the site, slowing injection speed. I'm 4 weeks in and nothing works.

Is it okay to stretch my leg when my thigh gets really sore, tight and lumps up? I don't want to cause more damage, im already walking like I have a wooden leg. I've stretched a small amount, it feels very uncomfortable.

Please advise. Thank you.
 
Swollbroham-Jenkin said:
Looking for some guidance. I have done my due diligence and research. I am using 350mg of test a week, broke into two injections. 50PROP/150CYP/150ENAN. Beligas, and before that I tried another brand, Magnus. I do IM and have even tried SubQ. On the second day after IM my muscle tightens up painfully, small lump. SubQ leaves big lumps. I've tried 23-27g needles, warming the oil, massaging the site, slowing injection speed. I'm 4 weeks in and nothing works.

Is it okay to stretch my leg when my thigh gets really sore, tight and lumps up? I don't want to cause more damage, im already walking like I have a wooden leg. I've stretched a small amount, it feels very uncomfortable.

Please advise. Thank you.
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Yea so I pinned quads exclusively until about a month ago…..I don’t exactly kno what happened, but I pinned, everything thing fine until next day and absolutely insane pain. Day after that leg swells up, day after that big red spot, few days after that fever and trip to doc for antibiotics cus guess what, got infected. During the process I did a lot of reading and research and come to find out quads are a spot with frequent infections, for whatever reason. Again, I can’t exactly figure out why it happened, I can make some assumptions, but still washed hands, cleaned site with alcohol, safe common sense practices while drawing oil, etc. Still got fucked. Also it was actual pharma test straight from a local Walgreens.
 
I started getting swelling issues in my quads so lately I just inject my side of my legs in between the split of the quad and ham while seated on the toilet, and also my ventro glutes, and there’s no swelling. Heating the oil helped too.
 
I made the switch to Beligas a while back. It isn't the product. I used too short of a short needle - 5/8" I think and for me it was too short. I botched the injection, didn't get it into the glute muscle and had horrible PIP for about 2 weeks. I massaged it, applied heat, stretched to where I felt like it was ripping and backed off some. Then I used a massage gun.

As soon is it was gone, I hit that same ass cheek again. I was not going to give up. But I switched to a 25g needle that is 1.5 inches long and got the oil warm. Slowed down the injection to a 25 or 30 count, left the needle in for another 10 (Thanks Doug64) No issues since. I only hit the glutes, one side on Monday, the other on Thursday.
 
Swollbroham-Jenkin said:
Looking for some guidance. I have done my due diligence and research. I am using 350mg of test a week, broke into two injections. 50PROP/150CYP/150ENAN. Beligas, and before that I tried another brand, Magnus. I do IM and have even tried SubQ. On the second day after IM my muscle tightens up painfully, small lump. SubQ leaves big lumps. I've tried 23-27g needles, warming the oil, massaging the site, slowing injection speed. I'm 4 weeks in and nothing works.

Is it okay to stretch my leg when my thigh gets really sore, tight and lumps up? I don't want to cause more damage, im already walking like I have a wooden leg. I've stretched a small amount, it feels very uncomfortable.

Please advise. Thank you.
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New tissue is gonna react to pinning. The only way out, is through. High mg/ml stuff def causes a bigger reaction. Its just part of the game brother.
At 350mg/ml, Id be concerned if you didnt get pip. Go deep!
 
1) Drop the Test P. 2) Switch to a single long ester like Test C. 3 )Inject more frequently. 350 / 7 is only 50mg doses. 350 / 4 is 87.5mg dose. The smaller the dose the easier it is for you body to deal = lower probability for PIP
 
Lathe Crasher said:
It’s the prop. Switch to a single long ester is my suggestion.
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This ^

Your body may not like prop atm. Prop gives me some pip as well but nothing major. It is known to be a "pippy" ester. I would suggest trying just test Enth and see how you do with the single ester.

Also, Welcome to ASF! If I can be of any help to you please feel free to reach out to me :)
 
Astro95 said:
Are you pinning in the same spot?

I’m currently using beligas primo and Deca and it’s very smooth no issues, but not their test. I’ve seen feedback of beligas having some pip and advice to warm it up, but if you’ve already been doing that must be something else.
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Yes, I've been alternating legs and a few inches up or down from previous spot. Thank you for your reply. Much appreciated.
 
JJB1 said:
I started getting swelling issues in my quads so lately I just inject my side of my legs in between the split of the quad and ham while seated on the toilet, and also my ventro glutes, and there’s no swelling. Heating the oil helped too.
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Definitely trying that. Thanks!
 
Johnnyhartly said:
Yea so I pinned quads exclusively until about a month ago…..I don’t exactly kno what happened, but I pinned, everything thing fine until next day and absolutely insane pain. Day after that leg swells up, day after that big red spot, few days after that fever and trip to doc for antibiotics cus guess what, got infected. During the process I did a lot of reading and research and come to find out quads are a spot with frequent infections, for whatever reason. Again, I can’t exactly figure out why it happened, I can make some assumptions, but still washed hands, cleaned site with alcohol, safe common sense practices while drawing oil, etc. Still got fucked. Also it was actual pharma test straight from a local Walgreens.
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LOL...WES @GYMnTONIC just went off about quad injections the other day...the Guru says nothing good comes from quad injections!
 
Swollbroham-Jenkin said:
Looking for some guidance. I have done my due diligence and research. I am using 350mg of test a week, broke into two injections. 50PROP/150CYP/150ENAN. Beligas, and before that I tried another brand, Magnus. I do IM and have even tried SubQ. On the second day after IM my muscle tightens up painfully, small lump. SubQ leaves big lumps. I've tried 23-27g needles, warming the oil, massaging the site, slowing injection speed. I'm 4 weeks in and nothing works.

Is it okay to stretch my leg when my thigh gets really sore, tight and lumps up? I don't want to cause more damage, im already walking like I have a wooden leg. I've stretched a small amount, it feels very uncomfortable.

Please advise. Thank you.
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Definitely ok to stretch them, warm compresses and mind the site...if it gets red, angry, more swollen, or warm YOURE OFF TO THE DOC...cellulitis will ruin your day! Also...stop using your quads...go Delts, or lateral ass cheeks.
 
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CoffeeS said:
I made the switch to Beligas a while back. It isn't the product. I used too short of a short needle - 5/8" I think and for me it was too short. I botched the injection, didn't get it into the glute muscle and had horrible PIP for about 2 weeks. I massaged it, applied heat, stretched to where I felt like it was ripping and backed off some. Then I used a massage gun.

As soon is it was gone, I hit that same ass cheek again. I was not going to give up. But I switched to a 25g needle that is 1.5 inches long and got the oil warm. Slowed down the injection to a 25 or 30 count, left the needle in for another 10 (Thanks Doug64) No issues since. I only hit the glutes, one side on Monday, the other on Thursday.
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Thx for the props brother...you ever in the NY Tri state area hit me up...we'll do Coffee...or a beer. I was gonna say we'll do coffee but that sounds gay AF! LOFL.
 
Anything with a prop is going to hurt to some extent. Make sure you don't push it in too hard, either.
 
Doug 64 said:
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Thx for the props brother...you ever in the NY Tri state area hit me up...we'll do Coffee...or a beer. I was gonna say we'll do coffee but that sounds gay AF! LOFL.
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don't know how I missed this. I was very close in mid July. I had a 2 day meeting in Pottsville, PA. I'll PM you when I'm on way back east
 

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