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40 year old beginner, advise welcome

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I’m 40, active duty military. I’ve always been in kinda good shape. Last year finnaly addressed some medical issues through a wellness clinic. Was put on standard trt protocol. Numbers went up to good levels. Started hitting gym(never was a real gym guy before) saw decent progress, but due to genetics and lack of knowledge I never filled out.
Flash forward, I have stopped going to the clinic ( cost too damn much) began ordering from a source and after speaking with a PA friend of mine who owns a similar type clinic( in a different state) decided to take the step forward to non therapeutic uses.
My current weekly dosages are
400mg test cyp
250mg deca
50mg ai
5mg daily cialis
I’ve been running this cycle for 6 weeks with planning on continuing for another 10 weeks. I’ve run labs twice since start. Other than test numbers being high no other results were over the threshold. I have also had a fitness coach rework my workout plan. I have seen fairly major improvements in physic and I feel like I’m 20 years old.

I want to continue to progress. I know with deca and the water retention, when I come off cycle I will potentially lose some of the look, which doesn’t really concern me. What I’m after is a slightly more advanced cycle to continue the physic building. I’m glad I joined here because my initial thoughts were to do a full tren cycle. But I definitely don’t want to die. What suggestions do the over 40 seasoned pros have to offer?
 
If your still in the Military I wouldn't fuck it up because of gear. I know the VA is strict as hell on stuff and if your bloods comeback fucked up or you get an infection Etc Etc... you could lose your bennies!!
Thank god we saved another life
You wont die on Tren (Im sure it will cut a few years off your life, but so will Testosterone,), but just iisn't needed by your AVG gym rat.
 
MikeGold said:
I’m 40, active duty military. I’ve always been in kinda good shape. Last year finnaly addressed some medical issues through a wellness clinic. Was put on standard trt protocol. Numbers went up to good levels. Started hitting gym(never was a real gym guy before) saw decent progress, but due to genetics and lack of knowledge I never filled out.
Flash forward, I have stopped going to the clinic ( cost too damn much) began ordering from a source and after speaking with a PA friend of mine who owns a similar type clinic( in a different state) decided to take the step forward to non therapeutic uses.
My current weekly dosages are
400mg test cyp
250mg deca
50mg ai
5mg daily cialis
I’ve been running this cycle for 6 weeks with planning on continuing for another 10 weeks. I’ve run labs twice since start. Other than test numbers being high no other results were over the threshold. I have also had a fitness coach rework my workout plan. I have seen fairly major improvements in physic and I feel like I’m 20 years old.

I want to continue to progress. I know with deca and the water retention, when I come off cycle I will potentially lose some of the look, which doesn’t really concern me. What I’m after is a slightly more advanced cycle to continue the physic building. I’m glad I joined here because my initial thoughts were to do a full tren cycle. But I definitely don’t want to die. What suggestions do the over 40 seasoned pros have to offer?
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Cycle looks pretty good. That AI at 50mg looks a little suspect tho. Which AI are you taking and how many times per week?

I didn't choose the swolle life, the swolle life chose me ~ Wesley Swolle
 
wesley_swolle said:
Cycle looks pretty good. That AI at 50mg looks a little suspect tho. Which AI are you taking and how many times per week?

I didn't choose the swolle life, the swolle life chose me ~ Wesley Swolle
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Aromasim 25mg on injection days
 
Bolan said:
If your still in the Military I wouldn't fuck it up because of gear. I know the VA is strict as hell on stuff and if your bloods comeback fucked up or you get an infection Etc Etc... you could lose your bennies!!
Thank god we saved another life
You wont die on Tren (Im sure it will cut a few years off your life, but so will Testosterone,), but just iisn't needed by your AVG gym rat.
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Without disclosing too much, normal drug screening doesn’t detect most gear. Ped specific testing is expensive to the unit and requires cause. Plus I do have a current valid script for the test ( just in case)
 
MikeGold said:
Aromasim 25mg on injection days
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MikeGold said:
Without disclosing too much, normal drug screening doesn’t detect most gear. Ped specific testing is expensive to the unit and requires cause. Plus I do have a current valid script for the test ( just in case)
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Be safeman.. you have great bennies, would suck to get an awful infection , and if you look like a gorilla... well they will put 2+2 together.
A young fella I train had this happen to him....This is how I know... 12 tours and got a dishonorable discharge because he got a infection in his delt from water based Winstrol...... Then they tested him.
That AI dosage seems pretty high, do you have bloods to prove you need that much AI?
 
Bolan said:
Bolan said:
Be safeman.. you have great bennies, would suck to get an awful infection , and if you look like a gorilla... well they will put 2+2 together.
A young fella I train had this happen to him....This is how I know... 12 tours and got a dishonorable discharge because he got a infection in his delt from water based Winstrol...... Then they tested him.
That AI dosage seems pretty high, do you have bloods to prove you need that much AI?
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Yeah my E was a little high and I began to get seeing my ankles and feet
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You aromatize easily.. I can run a gram with nothing other than Nolvadex
Yes Aromasin is the much safer option over Arimidex... (y)
 
Half life of Exemastane is approximatley 24hrs. You'd be better served with a lower dose taken daily ie 5mg/ed.
 
MikeGold said:
I’m 40, active duty military. I’ve always been in kinda good shape. Last year finnaly addressed some medical issues through a wellness clinic. Was put on standard trt protocol. Numbers went up to good levels. Started hitting gym(never was a real gym guy before) saw decent progress, but due to genetics and lack of knowledge I never filled out.
Flash forward, I have stopped going to the clinic ( cost too damn much) began ordering from a source and after speaking with a PA friend of mine who owns a similar type clinic( in a different state) decided to take the step forward to non therapeutic uses.
My current weekly dosages are
400mg test cyp
250mg deca
50mg ai
5mg daily cialis
I’ve been running this cycle for 6 weeks with planning on continuing for another 10 weeks. I’ve run labs twice since start. Other than test numbers being high no other results were over the threshold. I have also had a fitness coach rework my workout plan. I have seen fairly major improvements in physic and I feel like I’m 20 years old.

I want to continue to progress. I know with deca and the water retention, when I come off cycle I will potentially lose some of the look, which doesn’t really concern me. What I’m after is a slightly more advanced cycle to continue the physic building. I’m glad I joined here because my initial thoughts were to do a full tren cycle. But I definitely don’t want to die. What suggestions do the over 40 seasoned pros have to offer?
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What ai compound are you using?
 
Fletcher said:
What ai compound are you using?
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I’m taking Aromasin (standard daily dose is 25mg) not ameridex (daily dosage 1mg)(ANASTROZOLE)

I think this has a lot of responders confused. I’ll add a reply to the last person too. I had a hard time breaking 1mg anastrozole pills in half equally, there is no way I’ll be able to break 1 25mg pill in 5 equal parts.
 
MikeGold said:
I’m taking Aromasin (standard daily dose is 25mg) not ameridex (daily dosage 1mg)(ANASTROZOLE)

I think this has a lot of responders confused. I’ll add a reply to the last person too. I had a hard time breaking 1mg anastrozole pills in half equally, there is no way I’ll be able to break 1 25mg pill in 5 equal parts.
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Stick with aromasin. Probably dont need 25mgs per day though.
Even at 600mgs/week of test, I use 25mgs per week tops. Split 12.5 e4d on pin days.
Anastrazole is nasty shit. Eats your bones.
 
i take half a squirt of research liquid on 250ish test a week. for me, keeps everything in ccheck
 
MikeGold said:
Without disclosing too much, normal drug screening doesn’t detect most gear. Ped specific testing is expensive to the unit and requires cause. Plus I do have a current valid script for the test ( just in case)
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Welcome!

You may want to grab a script for the Deca…just in case. This thread made me curious on detection time, and 18 months for Deca is a helluva gamble when your career (and future careers with a dishonorable discharge) is on the line.

Anyways, there are tons of great info and people here to help you out. Be safe and good luck!
 
Cycle looks good to me.
Ai is a bit high for me personally, but we all respond different.
I run a similar cycle regularly, even a bit more test and deca like 5 - 600 test, 400 deca.
Even at those doses I will run 12.5mg aromasin monday/wednesday/Friday and I'm good to go.
If you're looking to step things up a bit I would recommend something like this:
5 - 600 test/400 deca/400 masteron
50mg dbol/day
250 - 350 iu hcg / twice a week
Keep your 5mg cialis / day
If you retain water easily try 50mg turinabol instead of dianabol. It's an amazing compound and your endurance will go through the roof.
For me 12.5mg aromasin M/W/F would be fine. If you need more maybe 25mg M/W/F but I could not see anyone needing any more than that.
 
Bluntson said:
Cycle looks good to me.
Ai is a bit high for me personally, but we all respond different.
I run a similar cycle regularly, even a bit more test and deca like 5 - 600 test, 400 deca.
Even at those doses I will run 12.5mg aromasin monday/wednesday/Friday and I'm good to go.
If you're looking to step things up a bit I would recommend something like this:
5 - 600 test/400 deca/400 masteron
50mg dbol/day
250 - 350 iu hcg / twice a week
Keep your 5mg cialis / day
If you retain water easily try 50mg turinabol instead of dianabol. It's an amazing compound and your endurance will go through the roof.
For me 12.5mg aromasin M/W/F would be fine. If you need more maybe 25mg M/W/F but I could not see anyone needing any more than that.
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I really appreciate your advice. Thank you
 

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