Best tren guidance?

[Darkshadowlander]

Ill reread your posts man maybe im missing something im on my phone so i tend to miss shit.

 

[bulldogz]

I do realize test e or c takes longer to clear by the way. Test generally isnt something you here the average guy say he has neg sides from. Maybe im wrong here but testosterone is something your body normally produces on your own so adding extra wouldn't cause crazy sides. For example. I inject 1000mg of test e. No sides. Or I inject 1000mg of tren e. Which one generally produces the greater sides?

Again...this is why you would start at a low does with any compound you are not familiar even test for first cycle...

All all compounds are dose dependent and have side effects...1000mg of test may not have any sides for you, but for me my e2 would be thru the roof and/or (gyno) maybe some else will or may experience acne from that high dose..also high blood pressure or even lipid values out of whack

Of course tren will create greater sides but that is why we would start at a low dose...I would never tell some to do 500mg or even 1000mg of tren per wk if they never had any experience with it before and no one would in their right mind would start a high dose of any compound if they are not familiar with it since they do not know how it will react with their bodies.....that is why we advise for first cycle do 500mg of test e/c pinned twice per wk and bump up if you can handle any sides...shit even 250mg per wk will do something for some people...but the same should be true with any compound but at a lower dose...

Yes...tren is a beast...I would personally start at 100-150mg per wk since its first time around and bump up if you can tolerate the side...just my .02

Pin less and at a lower dose, don't be a human pin cushion.....unless you want to be

 

[oufinny]

You are trying to be stable on tren? Wheres the fun in that? not serious-
Will you run proviron the entire cycle? I want to try it, but that is serious cabbage!

SFY sells EuroPharma proviron in bulk; 500x25mg pills is $350 or something like that. You can get away with less I assume but do the math on this:
250-300mg Test E - 2 bottles for 12 weeks (still have 8ml left if its 300mg/ml)
Tren E - 2 bottles for 12 weeks, maybe a third tops
Letro - 2 bottles from purchase peptides to be safe
Caber - either AY Cabaser or EP from SFY, both legit

That's not a lot right there even if you are getting the best from my Secret Agent friend or say BluePrint, a like priced lab. So adding in the proviron, split it with a friend and save some money, you aren't out a crazy amount. $500 will give you some impressive changes where as the last few cycles I ran, high test, high mast E, orals, NPP, caber, AI... it was ridiculous and I got a lot of it on trade for some legit superdrol. I also did not get the radical changes I expected (the NPP and Mast E were suspect).

 

[oufinny]

Again...this is why you would start at a low does with any compound you are not familiar even test for first cycle...

All all compounds are dose dependent and have side effects...1000mg of test may not have any sides for you, but for me my e2 would be thru the roof and/or (gyno) maybe some else will or may experience acne from that high dose..also high blood pressure or even lipid values out of whack

Of course tren will create greater sides but that is why we would start at a low dose...I would never tell some to do 500mg or even 1000mg of tren per wk if they never had any experience with it before and no one would in their right mind would start a high dose of any compound if they are not familiar with it since they do not know how it will react with their bodies.....that is why we advise for first cycle do 500mg of test e/c pinned twice per wk and bump up if you can handle any sides...shit even 250mg per wk will do something for some people...but the same should be true with any compound but at a lower dose...

Yes...tren is a beast...I would personally start at 100-150mg per wk since its first time around and bump up if you can tolerate the side...just my .02

Pin less and at a lower dose, don't be a human pin cushion.....unless you want to be

This - just the fact I will be able to pin E4D is a huge relief for me, I like the fast acting esters like PP and Prop but pinning EOD or ED sucks ass. My body hates short ester test, even the best prop causes PIP and when it doesn't I question if it is legit; luckily mast prop and NPP I tolerate well though. That said, tren Ace I would pin ED and that's what 56 pins the first 8 weeks? Talk about some sore injection spots, I would need a schedule just to see where my next injection is going. This is a for fun, I don't compete like some of you guys, just like to look and feel my best, fuck that ED pinning.