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I'm looking to make around 250-500ml of test enanthate but I keep seeing so many different recipes online and I'm starting to get confused in which one to use. I've seen one where you use 6g of the powder, 25grams of powder and 100g of powder. Can anyone point me in just one direction in which I should use please
 
I used 100g because it was easier.... for me, I'd rather prep all the materials and filter and bottle everything once, instead of several times. If you bottle everything aseptically, it's good for use for 4-5 years... also, it's not a specific temperature that you mix the gear with... just a little heat. The only time specific temperatures matter is for sterilization or melting point tests. When you're mixing, put your beaker into a pan with an inch or so of water, and put he burner on 2 or 3.


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Ignore the question above.
I meant this:
So say if you use 50g would you be able to lay it out for me as in how much oil, be and ba I need. I'm looking to make between 250-500 so would that mean if I made 250ml it would be more purer than a 500ml batch
 
It's percentage based. Go off your total volume (in this case, 250ml). 2% should be BA; 15% BB, then go to basskiller's website to see how many mL each gram of your powder will displace (I think Test is around 0.9 mL per gram, so 50g of test power will take up less than 50mL of your total volume). Take you BA + BB + volume displacement of powder and subtract from your total volume. The remaining number is how much oil to add. That's it!


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So if I have done it right I've come up with this:

Ba-5ml
Bb-37.5ml
Powder- 45ml
87.5
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250 = 162.5ml of oil

Am I correct?
 
But even doing that after it's made if I injected 500 a week, how much of that would be actually test because surely the more oil you add the more watered down the product is. So would you say the more powder and less oil you add it would make the final product more powerful or not?
 
You're over thinking this Drag.. go punch in your numbers in the basskiller calculater online. For test 250-300 you only need 2% ba.. and 5% BB you could get away with zero BB but it helps it hold better in cooler conditions and thins it a bit. For 300mg and above you'll want to bump it up to 15% BB. The best way to make it painless is to use EO if you get to 450mg and keep the BB around 10%. BB is what causes PIP.
 
Yeah I did and that's the numbers I got back from it using 2% ba and 15% BB. I'm from the U.K. And conditions are cold most of the time and I have my window open allot so I would be using BB. The problem is I already have all the equipment and if I buy EO the shipping is gonna kill me. I literally just need the powder,iso alcohol,surgical drapes/gloves.

But I've seen recipes that require 6g of your powder and that can make 100ml of test. So does that mean isn't a strong test and you'd have to jab more?
 
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This is the exact recipe I've used multiple times to make test cyp. I use MCT oil and my gear is smooth with no PIP. It occasionally crashes, but I'll put it in front of a space heater for a few minutes and it goes right back to clear-as-day and doesn't usually crash a second time.

Test Cyp 250mg/ml - 400mL
100g Test Cyp powder
8 mL BA (2%)
60 mL BB (15%)
241.10 mL MCT oil

If you want to use 50g of test, cut the other numbers in half.


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Btw... I just realized an error in your formula. If you want to make it 250mg/mL and use 50g of test, total volume will be 200mL, NOT 250mL


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I think we both just posted that conclusion at the same time, lol


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No, it would be 250mg/mL; 50g = 50,000mg - so you have 50,000mg in 200mL of solution. Divide 50,000 by 200 and you'll see that you have 250mg in each 1 mL. GO MATH!


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yall beat me to it, anyway:

The math is easy:
1g is 1000mg
Take desired concentration= (grams of powder needed x 1000)/total volume desired

Plug in values for any two of the three variables above, and solve:

Concentration = (g powder X 1000)/Total volume
g powder = (Concentration X Total volume)/1000
Total Volume = (g powder x 1000)/Concentration

So if you have 50g powder and want 250mg/ml
Total volume = (50x1000)/250
TV=200ml total volume

6 grams of powder at 100ml gives you 60mg/ml, too weak.
 
So that post by deuce which is top of the forums is pointless then ain't it since it's too weak like it seems like it was a waste of gear


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No, that recipe is for test prop at 100mg/ml. Test prop is much harder to get into solution compared to test E/C
 
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Or right I think it's cause I read the fact it says (makes E and C) and final thing to ask could I run say a 400ml batch through 1 250ml filter or would I need 2?


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50g powder. 200ml at 250mg/ml

50g power is 42.5ml converted
2ml ba 26ml bb 129.5ml of carrier i.e. Gso or Mct.


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Heat with a hot plate in a beaker. Use a thermometer and make sure to heat just above test e melting point. Stirring periodically. Cool and filter.


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I like to cover any issues with how pure powder is. As all providers are diff so I do it with 55g of test e. Or 46.75ml and lower the amount of carrier to adjust for that


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ILIFT2LIVE said:
Use a thermometer and make sure to heat just above test e melting point.
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It is typicaly better to dissolve something just under it's melting point to make sure that the compound is really in solution. If not, the compound may not really be in solution at the higher temperature, but just a mixture, and could crash back out upon cooling. Will this happen with testosterone, probably not, but it is a better practice to get into for general lab technique.
 
Phil6502 said:
It is typicaly better to dissolve something just under it's melting point to make sure that the compound is really in solution. If not, the compound may not really be in solution at the higher temperature, but just a mixture, and could crash back out upon cooling. Will this happen with testosterone, probably not, but it is a better practice to get into for general lab technique.
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That's true. I was speaking more test. Not the exotics. But yes I agree. Every product takes diff technique. But I find for me it holds better being just above to breakdown the hormone yet not damage it. But I could be wrong. I don't know it all obviously.


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ILIFT2LIVE said:
That's true. I was speaking more test. Not the exotics. But yes I agree. Every product takes diff technique. But I find for me it holds better being just above to breakdown the hormone yet not damage it.
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You are correct that it will go into solution quicker if it is brought above the melting point, but the risk for crystallization exists upon cooling, whereas if the temperature is below the melting point, there will be no opportunity for this to occur.

With something like tren, which is much more prone to high-temp decomposition, the lowest temperature capable of driving it into solution would be preferred.

I don't think this applies with any of the compounds we might use, but some things like sodium sulfate display a maximum solubility at 32C, at temperatures above and below this, the solubility is less. Gasses also show an inverse solubility as temperature increases. This is why warm sodas go flat quicker than cold ones, and why cool water streams are generally more healthy(they hold more oxygen, which is usually the limiting factor over NPK concentration(Nitrogen, Phosphorous, Potassium).
 
I read somewhere it's around 36celcius the melting point. I don't know if that's 100% true tho and am I doing it before or after melting point cause I have 2 different opinions here


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Draggster999 said:
I read somewhere it's around 36celcius the melting point. I don't know if that's 100% true tho and am I doing it before or after melting point cause I have 2 different opinions here


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It's true, melting point for Test Enanthate powder is around 37 celcius, that's why it sticky together in clumps in Summer when temperature is above its melting point. Sometimes looks like a stone. But it doesn't influence its function. Just beat it to powder before you are going to make.

When brewing it, you can heat a little bit, normally not more than 60 celcius. Actually, test e can dissolve in the solvents as time goes by. Heating is to help dissolve faster. Heating is not necessary for Test E, but most people will choose to heat it.
 
I use very little heat with test e, it dissolves quite a bit adding the ba and bb first. IMO the less heat you use the better, it just a good practice to have if you plan on working with more sensitive hormones.
 

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