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Valdosta Log

Valdosta said:
its 130 pages ?
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TomJoke can summarize it for you with an AI chat bot.
Its easy to tell when the words aren't his, lol.

When its his words, bad spelling, improper use of words and sounds like an 8th grader wrote it. When he uses AI chat bot it is actually readable. Sorry I couldn't help myself. The guy is more idiotic than a box of rocks. He does try his hardest to portray himself as something better than what he really is though.

Seriously though, you don't have to read much on DNP. Its turrible for you. You need to drop that shit like a TomJoke.
 
Valdosta said:
this has nothing to do with tom ? u gotta stop letting people haunt u like this
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I wouldn't call it haunting. I am also about harm reduction and I feel bad for any noobs that he scams. He is likely putting their health in danger as well if he indeed is 'coaching' any 'clients.'

I just cringe when I see some of his posts cuz I know how easily swayed noobs are. That's the main part that bothers me. If they are smart though they will figure it out on their own.

You are right though. I'll just let natural selection run its course with any unfortunate noobs and TomJoke. As much as it is cringe worthy, its not my problem.

I mean I don't give you too much shit for some of your choices. I totally disagree with your use of DNP and some of the dosages you claim but you do you and you can find out for yourself what works for you and what doesn't. We don't all respond the same to compounds, training, diet, etc...
 
KrossOut said:
Which page/section in the ATSDR Toxicological Profile does it present “symptoms”?

And which “symptoms” did @Valdosta experience?
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in not sure what the article says because itd take me a couple years to read it all. but all of my dnp related ailments:

raised body temp
sweating
elavated heart rate
severe hives (only first run)
yellowing of hands
reduced lung capacity (only on 750mg)
pins and needles
 
The ATSDR is tasked to produce profiles for chemicals that are frequently found at Superfund sites. As part of the profiles they develop MRLs (minimal risk levels) which is the general amount of the chemical that an average person can ingest, breathe, contact each day over their lifespan without ANY detectabl risk to health. This level is developed from levels 100x lower than the observed risk to lab animals. And then, to be protective, they add a 1,000x protective uncertainty.

It's not the best profile to reference for use of a compound but since it’s the one you provided, we can deep dive…

The MRL for DNP is 0.00007 mg/kg/day over your lifetime. Or 7 mg for the avg 100 kg adult once you remove the additional protective criteria (100x for lab animal transfer to human exposure and the 1000x uncertainty criteria).

So you can consume 7 mg each day over the long-term exposure without ANY detectable adverse health effects.

The profile references the lower fatal doses of 3 to 7 mg/kg/day (or 300 to 700 mg/day for 100 kg avg man) over a 14-day period. Most people start at less than 200 mg/day.

Lastly, the Caldeira mouse study presented at the end of Appendix A (page A-8) showed no difference in the organs between mice fed 0.03 mg/kg/day to 0.105 mg/kg/day up to 68 weeks of exposure and the control group of mice that did not ingest DNP. They commented “Mean lifespan was significantly higher in exposed mice than in controls.”
 
mass gain said:
I mean I don't give you too much shit for some of your choices. I totally disagree with your use of DNP and some of the dosages you claim but you do you and you can find out for yourself what works for you and what doesn't. We don't all respond the same to compounds, training, diet, etc...
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ik ig I'll let you attack them if it takes the heat of me ?
 
Valdosta said:
in not sure what the article says because itd take me a couple years to read it all. but all of my dnp related ailments:

raised body temp
sweating
elavated heart rate
severe hives (only first run)
yellowing of hands
reduced lung capacity (only on 750mg)
pins and needles
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Valdosta said:
in not sure what the article says because itd take me a couple years to read it all. but all of my dnp related ailments:

raised body temp
sweating
elavated heart rate
severe hives (only first run)
yellowing of hands
reduced lung capacity (only on 750mg)
pins and needles
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He didn’t read it either.
 
Valdosta said:
ik ig I'll let you attack them if it takes the heat of me ?
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You weren't wrong though, I did go out of my way to throw more shade at TomJoke and not really necessary I suppose. Plenty know what he is really about and for those that don't, they will find out with time.

I wasn't really putting heat on you. It can be interesting to see how other people do things and not just the assumption that one size fits all like we see so much. I still have yet to try some of your training techniques tho. ? Seems to work for you but I'd probably break my body. :oops:
 
@Valdosta is the yellowing of your hands from handling capsules? If not, that is not a good sign. When people start seeing yellowing it can mean you have way too much in your system.
 
mass gain said:
@Valdosta is the yellowing of your hands from handling capsules? If not, that is not a good sign. When people start seeing yellowing it can mean you have way too much in your system.
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i thought it was from touching them at first but it would pop up all over both hands. I'm not on it right now though. just taking things easy then going to really dial in when i move
 
JackedCarpenter33 said:
I know a guy that died on 500mg dnp. Coulda been overdosed. Body temp was like 109 laying dead in a cold bath. Be careful homie, but on the bright side it looks like it’s working
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damn crazy. i felt like the shortness of breath woulda been what did me in if i died. havent been on it in a lil bit but i was definitely worried if my lung capacity got any lower dont think i coulda breathed at all
 
JackedCarpenter33 said:
I know a guy that died on 500mg dnp. Coulda been overdosed. Body temp was like 109 laying dead in a cold bath. Be careful homie, but on the bright side it looks like it’s working
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How many days in a row was he taking? That shit just builds in the system. Don't remember the half life but its one of the main reasons when I did try DNP even at only 250 mg/day I had to tap out around d11 or d12.
No doubts it works but the sides were just too shitty for me to ever want to use it again.
 
KrossOut said:
Which page/section in the ATSDR Toxicological Profile does it present “symptoms”?

And which “symptoms” did @Valdosta experience?
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Symptoms preceding death consisted of fever progressing to hyperthermia, agitation or
restlessness, excessive sweating (diaphoresis), increased respiratory rate and gasping (dyspnea and
tachypnea), increased heart rate (tachycardia), extreme thirst, nausea, and vomiting. Renal failure was
reported in one instance (Bartlett et al. 2010). Muscle rigidity in some cases commenced before death,
inhibiting mechanical ventilation (Miranda et al. 2006; Tewari et al. 2009). In most cases, death resulted
from cardiac asystole. Autopsy findings typically included hyperemia, edema, and/or hemorrhage of
lungs and sometimes other organs (e.g., Hsiao et al. 2005; Poole and Haining 1934; Lattimore 1934; Zack
et al. 2016)


The rest of the effects seem par for the course but I remember a particularly large dose eliciting complaints of "being out of breath despite sucking in air".
 
Leanmeantinypeen said:
The rest of the effects seem par for the course but I remember a particularly large dose eliciting complaints of "being out of breath despite sucking in air".
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? ya i was def in the chatbox acting like i was about to die for a few days

i forgot about insomnia that was another one but usually the least of your concerns at the time
 
Valdosta said:
in not sure what the article says because itd take me a couple years to read it all. but all of my dnp related ailments:

raised body temp
sweating
elavated heart rate
severe hives (only first run)
yellowing of hands
reduced lung capacity (only on 750mg)
pins and needles
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Just go from the 40s to the 70s.
 
welp fellas ik i just said we're taking it easy but some 5 4 little man syndrome mfer (not that guy, @mass gain )keeps saying hes built better than me as a natty and that my physique is naturally attainable. like ya of course u can fill in a frame to this extent naturally when youre still wearing kids shoes... so anyway we're meal prepping and dialing back in regardless so we can continue to mog him.

gave a double red today. still sick, but got one of those profitable blood types so they didnt gaf. hit chest 2hrs later; definitely not getting enough oxygen. tried going lighter on bench to feel it better. meh. just going to switch to stupid dumbells next workout. managed to add 1 rep to both tricep movements though. reworking my spreadsheet so no screenshot.

the naturally attainable physique, dialing back in day 0:
 

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Valdosta said:
welp fellas ik i just said we're taking it easy but some 5 4 little man syndrome mfer (not that guy, @mass gain )keeps saying hes built better than me as a natty and that my physique is naturally attainable. like ya of course u can fill in a frame to this extent naturally when youre still wearing kids shoes... so anyway we're meal prepping and dialing back in regardless so we can continue to mog him.

gave a double red today. still sick, but got one of those profitable blood types so they didnt gaf. hit chest 2hrs later; definitely not getting enough oxygen. tried going lighter on bench to feel it better. meh. just going to switch to stupid dumbells next workout. managed to add 1 rep to both tricep movements though. reworking my spreadsheet so no screenshot.

the naturally attainable physique, dialing back in day 0:
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Lookin good bro. Damn another midget with a Napoleon complex mad at you? You seem to really make the midgets bitch and moan.

So its not Sperg0 but I do remember Sperg0 getting mad at your pics and saying he was just as big as you but you just looked bigger cuz you used filters, etc.. If I remember right, he even told you to stop posting pics. I never bought his bullshit. He was straight up jealous and upset that you never took his shit advice, you did it your way and you were vastly stronger and more muscular than that ADD freak POS.
 
mass gain said:
Lookin good bro. Damn another midget with a Napoleon complex mad at you? You seem to really make the midgets bitch and moan.

So its not Sperg0 but I do remember Sperg0 getting mad at your pics and saying he was just as big as you but you just looked bigger cuz you used filters, etc.. If I remember right, he even told you to stop posting pics. I never bought his bullshit. He was straight up jealous and upset that you never took his shit advice, you did it your way and you were vastly stronger and more muscular than that ADD freak POS.
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Sperg0 hated me lol he’s probably foaming at the mouth that I’m with YMS now ? It was cool to hate on them at UGBB but anyone that’s used them knows they’re solid lol

He must have some deep-rooted psychological issues. Maybe that one thanksgiving his uncle brought him in the closet and played the close your eyes game really fucked him up. Not sure.

Side note: Valdino is shredded to the gills with some big fuckin arms, looks great and has shown us how he grinds with this sick log so keep crushing it g
 
i gotta go to the doctor monday or somethin. whatever im sick withs got me george floydin out here. cant fukn breathe. having to take like 10 mins between my compounds. good workout though. i may start adding a little fluff in after my core movements. not sure

toured some apartments in the new city today. and checked out the gym ill be going to. theyve got a belt squat, but no tbar ? town seems like a lil step up from here though. we'll see
 

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mass gain said:
Lookin good bro. Damn another midget with a Napoleon complex mad at you? You seem to really make the midgets bitch and moan.

So its not Sperg0 but I do remember Sperg0 getting mad at your pics and saying he was just as big as you but you just looked bigger cuz you used filters, etc.. If I remember right, he even told you to stop posting pics. I never bought his bullshit. He was straight up jealous and upset that you never took his shit advice, you did it your way and you were vastly stronger and more muscular than that ADD freak POS.
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Sperg0 must have felt so insecure when @Valdosta posted his pics. Bet he's seen mine and even more jealous haha.
 
MindlessWork said:
Sperg0 must have felt so insecure when @Valdosta posted his pics. Bet he's seen mine and even more jealous haha.
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The ADD freak is essentially jealous of anyone that lifts and puts in any kind of effort. You both have made progress.
 
No dick riding, but Valdosta looks sick, envious ???. Dude has plenty potential. Thanks for bringing him over, he asks the right questions which is informative to all, not only himself...

"overnight gyno, I'm fucked" - ASF problem solved young grasshopper ?.
 
Deezo said:
No dick riding, but Valdosta looks sick, envious ???. Dude has plenty potential. Thanks for bringing him over, he asks the right questions which is informative to all, not only himself...

"overnight gyno, I'm fucked" - ASF problem solved young grasshopper ?.
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Agree. I don't support and probably wouldn't advise some of the stuff he does but he still gets results. Not everyone is the same. Like many, he will find out through trial and error if some of what he is doing is truly bad for him.
He's a good brah. I'm the type that doesn't necessarily like to see the same stuff preached over and over. Most of us already know this information. My curiosity lies in seeing differing perspectives. Sometimes they are ridiculous in my mind. Sometimes I pick up a good tip.
 
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