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man i wish you were right.
All civilizations die as they get more liberal. Every one of them. They all fall when they start the massive sexualization of children, including gender mutilation. We are past that point. God will continue to take away our freedoms as we fall into sexual sin
Lol you're retarded, like half the big rock songs of the 70s and 80s were about fucking kids and it was seen as kind of normal, nobody raised an eyebrow at it. Shit, conservative icon Ted Nugent could hardly write a song about anything besides fucking kids lol. If anything it's way less acceptable now, and someone is way more likely to actually be prosecuted for it.
 
And truly nobody has sexualized kids more than Christianity has. Between the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Church alone there are countless thousands of child sexual abuse victims, and that's just what we know about.
 
And truly nobody has sexualized kids more than Christianity has. Between the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Church alone there are countless thousands of child sexual abuse victims, and that's just what we know about.
At the risk of sounding like a Catholic apologist, the truth is that many large institutions that work with children have the exact same problem: predators realize they can have access to prey and exploit the institution’s weaknesses, then the institution freaks out and would rather protect itself and cover up the crime rather than hold the guilty accountable.

It’s hardly unique to Catholics or Southern Baptists. Boy Scouts, major university gymnastics programs, hospital gynecology departments, juvenile detention facilities, media organizations like BBC with Jimmy Savile. The list goes on and on, unfortunately.

The common denominator isn’t religion but access to potential victims and an institution that wants to cover its ass.

That is not at all to minimize the sex abuse in the Catholic Church or other religious organizations — the religious aspect makes the cover-ups especially heinous and hypocritical. But ultimately it’s not really about beliefs or religious but a combination of opportunity and CYA…
 
At the risk of sounding like a Catholic apologist, the truth is that many large institutions that work with children have the exact same problem: predators realize they can have access to prey and exploit the institution’s weaknesses, then the institution freaks out and would rather protect itself and cover up the crime rather than hold the guilty accountable.

It’s hardly unique to Catholics or Southern Baptists. Boy Scouts, major university gymnastics programs, hospital gynecology departments, juvenile detention facilities, media organizations like BBC with Jimmy Savile. The list goes on and on, unfortunately.

The common denominator isn’t religion but access to potential victims and an institution that wants to cover its ass.

That is not at all to minimize the sex abuse in the Catholic Church or other religious organizations — the religious aspect makes the cover-ups especially heinous and hypocritical. But ultimately it’s not really about beliefs or religious but a combination of opportunity and CYA…
Oh for sure, that's definitely true. Predators tend to go where they have opportunities. But like you said it's especially heinous when it's coming from the Church and kids are being told they're being controlled by the devil for accusing a priest. Plus the sheer size of the institutions and the scale of the cover-up. It wasn't a couple kids, it was thousands over a period of decades, and no doubt it's still happening.
 
Oh for sure, that's definitely true. Predators tend to go where they have opportunities. But like you said it's especially heinous when it's coming from the Church and kids are being told they're being controlled by the devil for accusing a priest. Plus the sheer size of the institutions and the scale of the cover-up. It wasn't a couple kids, it was thousands over a period of decades, and no doubt it's still happening.

And you were mainly focused on rape, add in the amount of grooming and those numbers explode even more. Stories of the 35 year old marrying the18 year he taught in children’s Bible study are absolutely rampant


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Oh for sure, that's definitely true. Predators tend to go where they have opportunities. But like you said it's especially heinous when it's coming from the Church and kids are being told they're being controlled by the devil for accusing a priest. Plus the sheer size of the institutions and the scale of the cover-up. It wasn't a couple kids, it was thousands over a period of decades, and no doubt it's still happening.
It is especially heinous, yet I would argue it does not actually emanate from the religious precepts themselves. The problem is with how the religion is practiced as opposed to the religion itself.

Child sex abuse is not considered a means to an end to further the religion’s aims. It is an aberration and a deviation from the precepts of Catholicism, hence the secrecy and cover-up. It is a symptom of defects in how the church is structured, not of defects in the religious belief.

That is distinguishable from Islam, in which oppression and domination are considered means to end among the religion’s adherents themselves. If it isn’t done under the cover of secrecy — openly and proudly — it springs from the religious belief itself.

Arguably, the Crusades and the Inquisition sprang from Catholic dogma and theology itself as it was practiced at the time. Many people consider the Inquisition and Crusades as great crimes, but I’d argue it’s more complicated than that.

The inquisition sprang from a need to establish what the religion itself was supposed to represent — an attempt to enforce uniformity. The crusades were an attempt to keep a civilization enemy of the religion in check.

Obviously, we view killing tons of people as immoral nowadays — but that’s because we have evolved away from that kind of response. Furthermore, Catholic theology and dogma have also evolved since then, so the inquisition and crusades don’t necessarily represent what the religion itself stands for anymore.

Can Islam change to become less repressive? Possibly, though it would require a rethinking of its precepts, as the Catholic Church had done. That does not appear likely based on everything we now see going on in Islam…
 
Everything Starts With Us

Nobody is coming.

Way too many people complaining about America while living a shit example of what it means to be an American.

You're not expected to be perfect.

You are however expected to at least pursue a great life that honors those that came before you and inspires those behind you.

Are you actually doing this?

Are you even trying?

How does your life look?

How's your health?

How's your fitness?

How many books have you read this year?

How's your family doing?

How's your financial health?

Where can you improve? What can you do better?

What example are you setting?

It starts with us.

It starts with you.

You must examine yourself and face the answers even if it hurts.

Stop drowning yourself in easy & convenient.

Stop numbing yourself with distractions.

The only way to truly restore what America is supposed to be is by us living the best we can individually, teaching it the best we can and standing for it the best we can…

...And all of that starts with us as individuals.

It's impossible to have a great country without great individuals.

Until we all get on that page, nothing changes.

Personal excellence is the ultimate rebellion.

Andy Frisella
 
Arguably though we are sexualizing children less than in the past. Seems like that has really gotten on people’s radar and there’s basically no tolerance for it anymore.

Based on genetic tests, it appears incest was far more common in the past within nuclear families, typically father/daughter. The issue was just swept under the rug, whereas now it is more openly acknowledged, so it may seem like the problem has gotten worse.

The weird transsexual stuff is obviously an exception to that. But I’d argue that it largely afflicts a small minority of misguided liberals in big cities. It’s not a mainstream problem, at least out here in the sticks.

Guys used to basically brag about banging underage girls. I seem to recall the guy from Aerosmith admitting to having a 13 year old girlfriend on the road in his autobiography. It wasn’t considered as unspeakable then as it is now, which would indicate we may have improved in that sense.

I’m not trying to be pollyannaish, but civilizational collapse tends to be a confluence of multiple interrelated factors. Yes, increasingly liberal societies tend to degenerate.

Similar things have happened to hypermasculine societies that have qualities we would consider right wing nowadays, such as valuing conquest. Look at what happened to Genghis Khan’s empire. It basically just petered out despite one of the largest military conquests in history.

Again, not saying I am actually optimistic about the future of Western society. But we’ve built up such a globally dominant and sophisticated economy that it isn’t likely to just fall apart overnight.

Of course it COULD, and if it does, it’s more likely to be caused by our stratospheric levels of debt rather than any cultural issues…
Yes, things get reported more because we have the internet, but man, i don't know of a time in history (and no, i'm not a history buff) where we have been openly teaching kids to question their gender, nevertheless having the ability to give them transitioning drugs and surgery. That's what i'm speaking about. The people involved in this should be drug down the street by their genitals and publicly executed. That will bring down western society
 
And truly nobody has sexualized kids more than Christianity has. Between the Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Church alone there are countless thousands of child sexual abuse victims, and that's just what we know about.
Suck a donkey dick faggot.
You support gender transitions of children. End of story.
 
It is especially heinous, yet I would argue it does not actually emanate from the religious precepts themselves. The problem is with how the religion is practiced as opposed to the religion itself.

Child sex abuse is not considered a means to an end to further the religion’s aims. It is an aberration and a deviation from the precepts of Catholicism, hence the secrecy and cover-up. It is a symptom of defects in how the church is structured, not of defects in the religious belief.

That is distinguishable from Islam, in which oppression and domination are considered means to end among the religion’s adherents themselves. If it isn’t done under the cover of secrecy — openly and proudly — it springs from the religious belief itself.

Arguably, the Crusades and the Inquisition sprang from Catholic dogma and theology itself as it was practiced at the time. Many people consider the Inquisition and Crusades as great crimes, but I’d argue it’s more complicated than that.

The inquisition sprang from a need to establish what the religion itself was supposed to represent — an attempt to enforce uniformity. The crusades were an attempt to keep a civilization enemy of the religion in check.

Obviously, we view killing tons of people as immoral nowadays — but that’s because we have evolved away from that kind of response. Furthermore, Catholic theology and dogma have also evolved since then, so the inquisition and crusades don’t necessarily represent what the religion itself stands for anymore.

Can Islam change to become less repressive? Possibly, though it would require a rethinking of its precepts, as the Catholic Church had done. That does not appear likely based on everything we now see going on in Islam…

White Christians are not vilified merely for being white or Christian. The late Dolly Parton was openly Christian and adored across political and cultural lines. What draws criticism is a particular brand of Christianity that seeks political power and authority over others, the very thing you condemn when you attribute it to Islam.

And there is a clear double standard in your reasoning, when Christians commit oppression, you separate their behavior from Christianity and allow that the religion can evolve. When Muslims commit oppression, you treat it as the unavoidable essence of Islam and dismiss its capacity for reform. That isn’t a consistent analysis, it’s special pleading for your own religion.


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At the risk of sounding like a Catholic apologist, the truth is that many large institutions that work with children have the exact same problem: predators realize they can have access to prey and exploit the institution’s weaknesses, then the institution freaks out and would rather protect itself and cover up the crime rather than hold the guilty accountable.

It’s hardly unique to Catholics or Southern Baptists. Boy Scouts, major university gymnastics programs, hospital gynecology departments, juvenile detention facilities, media organizations like BBC with Jimmy Savile. The list goes on and on, unfortunately.

The common denominator isn’t religion but access to potential victims and an institution that wants to cover its ass.

That is not at all to minimize the sex abuse in the Catholic Church or other religious organizations — the religious aspect makes the cover-ups especially heinous and hypocritical. But ultimately it’s not really about beliefs or religious but a combination of opportunity and CYA…
exactly. Show me a true conservative or Christian that defends this behavior.
 
White Christians are not vilified merely for being white or Christian. The late Dolly Parton was openly Christian and adored across political and cultural lines. What draws criticism is a particular brand of Christianity that seeks political power and authority over others, the very thing you condemn when you attribute it to Islam.

And there is a clear double standard in your reasoning, when Christians commit oppression, you separate their behavior from Christianity and allow that the religion can evolve. When Muslims commit oppression, you treat it as the unavoidable essence of Islam and dismiss its capacity for reform. That isn’t a consistent analysis, it’s special pleading for your own religion.


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I literally said the opposite of what you are saying. I said the oppression represented by the Inquisition and Crusades could be attributed to the religious precepts of Catholicism at the time — unlike sexual abuse, which is an aberrant activity that is covered up rather than expounded publicly.

Maybe I didn’t make myself clear or you misunderstood. I don’t believe the sex abuse scandal has much to do with the fundamental religion of Catholicism itself, understood on a theoretical level. It is due to common human corruption and poor structural systems for the church.

BUT I am willing to admit that the Inquisition and Crusades DO derive from the fundamental precepts of the religion, at least as it was practiced at the time. When something is espoused openly in that way, it does represent a manifestation of the religion.

And I believe that it is possible for Muslim dogma to change in the same way that Catholic dogma has changed since the Inquisition and Crusades.

My point was I don’t see any actual EVIDENCE that Muslims WANT their dogma to change, or that the dogma is actually changing.

I’m not saying change isn’t possible for Islam, just that I don’t believe there’s any movement to enact such change.

Meanwhile, Catholic dogma has pretty evidently changed, as evidenced by the church no longer promoting inquisitions or crusades.
 
Yes, things get reported more because we have the internet, but man, i don't know of a time in history (and no, i'm not a history buff) where we have been openly teaching kids to question their gender, nevertheless having the ability to give them transitioning drugs and surgery. That's what i'm speaking about. The people involved in this should be drug down the street by their genitals and publicly executed. That will bring down western society
The trans thing is a form of mass hysteria among liberals, I believe.

Of course, I have no doubt there are people who legitimately think they are the opposite sex. It’s called mental illness.

But instead of recognizing it as such, we have decided that the person’s body — and the entire surrounding society — has to conform to match their mental illness.

Regarding the trans children, they are probably picking up cues from their parents and society. Nobody is going to tell me kids don’t do stupid shit and act in stupid ways to feel special and get attention. That’s part of childhood.

But because we have already sanctified this mental illness, the urban left leaning section of society feels it can’t just stop at adults - the theory must be applied to children as well.

Like most other forms of mass hysteria, this will blow over. There is no way the actual prevalence of transgender has legitimacy skyrocketed — it’s a response among children to societal suggestion.

Unfortunately, before all this blows over, we will be left with a lot of gay guys and lesbians whose parents allowed them to horribly mutilate their genitals and never have a normal sex life.

Or at the very least, they will fuck up their hormones and bone structure and such. Better that than cutting off your cock and balls, I suppose…
 
I literally said the opposite of what you are saying. I said the oppression represented by the Inquisition and Crusades could be attributed to the religious precepts of Catholicism at the time — unlike sexual abuse, which is an aberrant activity that is covered up rather than expounded publicly.

Maybe I didn’t make myself clear or you misunderstood. I don’t believe the sex abuse scandal has much to do with the fundamental religion of Catholicism itself, understood on a theoretical level. It is due to common human corruption and poor structural systems for the church.

BUT I am willing to admit that the Inquisition and Crusades DO derive from the fundamental precepts of the religion, at least as it was practiced at the time. When something is espoused openly in that way, it does represent a manifestation of the religion.

And I believe that it is possible for Muslim dogma to change in the same way that Catholic dogma has changed since the Inquisition and Crusades.

My point was I don’t see any actual EVIDENCE that Muslims WANT their dogma to change, or that the dogma is actually changing.

I’m not saying change isn’t possible for Islam, just that I don’t believe there’s any movement to enact such change.

Meanwhile, Catholic dogma has pretty evidently changed, as evidenced by the church no longer promoting inquisitions or crusades.

Fair correction: you did say reform within Islam is possible, so I overstated that part. But saying there is no evidence that Muslims want reform or that no reform movement exists is simply false.

Islam has no pope, Vatican, or single governing body capable of announcing a universal doctrinal change. Reform therefore happens through scholars, activists, communities, and national legal systems. Musawah is a global Muslim movement working to reform discriminatory Islamic family laws from within the Islamic tradition. Muslims for Progressive Values openly advocates gender equality, LGBTQ rights, freedom of conscience, and the separation of religion and government. Muslim family law reforms have also occurred across multiple countries.

You can argue that these movements are not yet powerful enough, but you cannot reasonably claim they do not exist. You are comparing the modern Catholic Church as one centralized institution with the most oppressive governments and factions found anywhere among two billion diverse Muslims. That is still a double standard.


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The trans thing is a form of mass hysteria among liberals, I believe.

Of course, I have no doubt there are people who legitimately think they are the opposite sex. It’s called mental illness.

But instead of recognizing it as such, we have decided that the person’s body — and the entire surrounding society — has to conform to match their mental illness.

Regarding the trans children, they are probably picking up cues from their parents and society. Nobody is going to tell me kids don’t do stupid shit and act in stupid ways to feel special and get attention. That’s part of childhood.

But because we have already sanctified this mental illness, the urban left leaning section of society feels it can’t just stop at adults - the theory must be applied to children as well.

Like most other forms of mass hysteria, this will blow over. There is no way the actual prevalence of transgender has legitimacy skyrocketed — it’s a response among children to societal suggestion.

Unfortunately, before all this blows over, we will be left with a lot of gay guys and lesbians whose parents allowed them to horribly mutilate their genitals and never have a normal sex life.

Or at the very least, they will fuck up their hormones and bone structure and such. Better that than cutting off your cock and balls, I suppose…

This actually proves my earlier point. You argued that oppression within Islam should be attributed to the religion when its adherents openly endorse it. Yet someone here just called for people involved in gender care to be tortured and publicly executed, and instead of condemning that, you joined in by portraying transgender people as mentally ill attention seekers destroying society.

Transgender people are not new. They are simply more visible and more willing to live openly as social acceptance has increased. Anyone familiar with David Bowie, the Velvet Underground, Lou Reed, or even Aerosmith knows that gender identity and gender nonconformity were already part of popular culture decades ago. Lou Reed was singing about actual transgender women in the early 1970s. Greater visibility does not prove that society suddenly created these people any more than increased left handedness after schools stopped punishing it proved that society created left handed people.

The prediction that large numbers will inevitably regret being “mutilated” is also contradicted by the available evidence. Gender affirming surgery has one of the lowest documented regret rates in surgery, generally around 1 to 2 percent. That does not mean every outcome is perfect, that every treatment is appropriate for every patient, or that careful evaluation is unnecessary. It does mean your claim of inevitable mass regret is based on assumption rather than evidence.

People can reasonably debate pediatric gender medicine, its risks, evidence, and appropriate limits. Calling for public executions is not a medical argument. It is eliminationist authoritarian rhetoric. This is not Christianity being vilified for existing. It is a particular political and religious culture being condemned because it seeks power over others while portraying itself as the persecuted party. You cannot apply one standard to Islam and ignore the same behavior when it appears on your own side.


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Fair correction: you did say reform within Islam is possible, so I overstated that part. But saying there is no evidence that Muslims want reform or that no reform movement exists is simply false.

Islam has no pope, Vatican, or single governing body capable of announcing a universal doctrinal change. Reform therefore happens through scholars, activists, communities, and national legal systems. Musawah is a global Muslim movement working to reform discriminatory Islamic family laws from within the Islamic tradition. Muslims for Progressive Values openly advocates gender equality, LGBTQ rights, freedom of conscience, and the separation of religion and government. Muslim family law reforms have also occurred across multiple countries.

You can argue that these movements are not yet powerful enough, but you cannot reasonably claim they do not exist. You are comparing the modern Catholic Church as one centralized institution with the most oppressive governments and factions found anywhere among two billion diverse Muslims. That is still a double standard.


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Sure, these movements might exist but I am not holding my breath they’ll much impact on Afganistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran…

As for the trans thing, I wasn’t so much acquiescing to any kind of violence but rather trying to inject some reality info the conversation.

My point was that the whole trans thing is bound to blow over. It’s a fad, basically. Maybe some people will regret their sex changes and others won’t.

Regarding your claim that they rarely involve regret, my recollection is that it depends on the study you choose to cite. But I’m not looking to debate that shit or bother looking up statistics.

As for treating „trans” children with hormones or operations, that has been drastically scaled back by the countries in Europe that originally pioneered the practice. You seem like a bright guy so you can look it up yourself, though I suspect you already know but choose to ignore that fact because it’s inconvenient.

Boys who supposedly think they’re girls and vice versa are usually just homosexual but they’re children so the „trans” label may be easier to underhand or just more fashionable.

My prognostication is we’re going to have a bunch of gay men who chopped off their cocks and balls — an epidemic of sexually frustrated homosexuals, if this trans thing keeps growing by leaps and bounds. When that happens, they’re not going to want to hear from their parents: „you were literally asking for it.”
 
Sure, these movements might exist but I am not holding my breath they’ll much impact on Afganistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran…

As for the trans thing, I wasn’t so much acquiescing to any kind of violence but rather trying to inject some reality info the conversation.

My point was that the whole trans thing is bound to blow over. It’s a fad, basically. Maybe some people will regret their sex changes and others won’t.

Regarding your claim that they rarely involve regret, my recollection is that it depends on the study you choose to cite. But I’m not looking to debate that shit or bother looking up statistics.

As for treating „trans” children with hormones or operations, that has been drastically scaled back by the countries in Europe that originally pioneered the practice. You seem like a bright guy so you can look it up yourself, though I suspect you already know but choose to ignore that fact because it’s inconvenient.

Boys who supposedly think they’re girls and vice versa are usually just homosexual but they’re children so the „trans” label may be easier to underhand or just more fashionable.

My prognostication is we’re going to have a bunch of gay men who chopped off their cocks and balls — an epidemic of sexually frustrated homosexuals, if this trans thing keeps growing by leaps and bounds. When that happens, they’re not going to want to hear from their parents: „you were literally asking for it.”

You have moved the goalposts twice. First, you said there was no evidence that Muslims wanted reform and no movement working toward it. Now you acknowledge those movements exist but say they probably will not transform three of the most authoritarian countries in the world. Their inability to overpower the Taliban or the governments of Iran and Saudi Arabia does not mean Muslims do not want reform. It means authoritarian governments suppress reformers.

You also say you are “injecting reality” into the transgender discussion, then immediately admit you will not examine the statistics. You cannot dismiss published evidence because your recollection feels different and then substitute your own prediction about what will happen. That is the opposite of evidence based reasoning.

You are correct that several European countries have restricted or more tightly controlled medical treatment for minors because the long term pediatric evidence remains limited. I do not ignore that, and I support careful evaluation and appropriate limits. But that does not establish that transgender identity is a fad, disprove adult treatment, or support your claim that transgender children are usually confused homosexuals. Sexual orientation and gender identity are not the same


Finally, I did not say you personally called for violence. I said someone openly called for people to be tortured and publicly executed, and your response was not to condemn it but to reinforce the dehumanizing premise behind it. Even if every medical question were unsettled, that rhetoric would still be indefensible.


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You have moved the goalposts twice. First, you said there was no evidence that Muslims wanted reform and no movement working toward it. Now you acknowledge those movements exist but say they probably will not transform three of the most authoritarian countries in the world. Their inability to overpower the Taliban or the governments of Iran and Saudi Arabia does not mean Muslims do not want reform. It means authoritarian governments suppress reformers.

You also say you are “injecting reality” into the transgender discussion, then immediately admit you will not examine the statistics. You cannot dismiss published evidence because your recollection feels different and then substitute your own prediction about what will happen. That is the opposite of evidence based reasoning.

You are correct that several European countries have restricted or more tightly controlled medical treatment for minors because the long term pediatric evidence remains limited. I do not ignore that, and I support careful evaluation and appropriate limits. But that does not establish that transgender identity is a fad, disprove adult treatment, or support your claim that transgender children are usually confused homosexuals. Sexual orientation and gender identity are not the same


Finally, I did not say you personally called for violence. I said someone openly called for people to be tortured and publicly executed, and your response was not to condemn it but to reinforce the dehumanizing premise behind it. Even if every medical question were unsettled, that rhetoric would still be indefensible.


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I don’t pay as much attention to the transgender stuff as most people so I am largely absorbing news through occasional articles appearing in the periodicals I read.

From my recollection, there is a big increase in transgenderism or whatever you want to call it, driven mostly by young people. I remember reading the majority of transgenders are under 30.

There was a study that pointed to “social contagion” being a major factor. Of course there are people who are going to dispute that because they buy into the whole premise.

Short of devoting myself to studying this shit, which I don’t have the time or inclination to do, I am pretty confident based on life experience that social contagion is a major if not the major factor.

Young people want to stand out and be special and unique and rebellious. When I was a teenager, it seemed like just about every other girl had declared herself bisexual. Within ten years most all of them were married to men, or divorced from men.

Commons sense tells me that their bisexuality was a way of getting attention and titillating the boys. Transgenderism is little different. Kids pick up on the social debate and see it as a way to stand out, especially if they are otherwise confused about their sexual orientation.

Does this mean there are zero “real” transgenders? Of course not. But realistically we would not be seeing transgenders so much more common among the youngest generation if it was a legitimate phenomenon.

The generational gap in willingness to announce it can’t explain the entire surge. It may have some effect, but it wouldn’t account for most transgenders being under 30.

I am not going to bother spending an hour on google to copy and paste links to the above statistics. You can just as easily summon studies sympathetic to your point of view and we are right back where we started.

I enjoy arguing but don’t need to bolster my arguments by invoking an endless battle of the experts.

Same with Islam. Plenty of polls reputable firms show how backwards most of the Muslim world is, and how hostile to the west. The fact that a handful of Muslims start a few organizations isn’t going to budge those views…
 
I don’t pay as much attention to the transgender stuff as most people so I am largely absorbing news through occasional articles appearing in the periodicals I read.

From my recollection, there is a big increase in transgenderism or whatever you want to call it, driven mostly by young people. I remember reading the majority of transgenders are under 30.

There was a study that pointed to “social contagion” being a major factor. Of course there are people who are going to dispute that because they buy into the whole premise.

Short of devoting myself to studying this shit, which I don’t have the time or inclination to do, I am pretty confident based on life experience that social contagion is a major if not the major factor.

Young people want to stand out and be special and unique and rebellious. When I was a teenager, it seemed like just about every other girl had declared herself bisexual. Within ten years most all of them were married to men, or divorced from men.

Commons sense tells me that their bisexuality was a way of getting attention and titillating the boys. Transgenderism is little different. Kids pick up on the social debate and see it as a way to stand out, especially if they are otherwise confused about their sexual orientation.

Does this mean there are zero “real” transgenders? Of course not. But realistically we would not be seeing transgenders so much more common among the youngest generation if it was a legitimate phenomenon.

The generational gap in willingness to announce it can’t explain the entire surge. It may have some effect, but it wouldn’t account for most transgenders being under 30.

I am not going to bother spending an hour on google to copy and paste links to the above statistics. You can just as easily summon studies sympathetic to your point of view and we are right back where we started.

I enjoy arguing but don’t need to bolster my arguments by invoking an endless battle of the experts.

Same with Islam. Plenty of polls reputable firms show how backwards most of the Muslim world is, and how hostile to the west. The fact that a handful of Muslims start a few organizations isn’t going to budge those views…

Your opening sentence tells the whole story. You admit that you do not pay much attention to this subject, do not intend to study it, and will not examine the statistics, yet you are “pretty confident” that your personal life experience explains millions of people. That is not common sense. It is confirmation bias.

If the “social contagion” study you remember is the 2018 Lisa Littman study, it did not establish social contagion. It surveyed parents recruited from three websites where parents were already discussing what they believed was sudden transgender identification. The young people themselves were never interviewed. The study was exploratory and intended to generate a hypothesis, not prove causation. After further review, the journal issued a correction clarifying that the proposed condition had not been clinically validated. Later research involving much larger samples did not find the pattern that the contagion theory predicted.

Social influence may affect how some young people describe or understand themselves, just as it can influence virtually every aspect of adolescence. That does not justify leaping to the conclusion that most transgender youth are seeking attention. Your bisexuality example does not establish that either. A bisexual woman marrying a man is still bisexual. Bisexuality does not require alternating partners by sex to remain legitimate, and assuming women claimed it merely to titillate boys is speculation about their motives, not evidence.

The existence of conflicting studies is not a reason to abandon evidence and substitute anecdotes. Experts and statistics are how we determine whether our intuition is accurate. Dismissing all contrary evidence as ideologically motivated makes your position impossible to test or disprove.

You are doing the same thing with Islam. You first claimed that no reform movement existed. Once examples were provided, you changed the claim to those movements being too small to transform authoritarian countries. Now you invoke unspecified polls while refusing to examine evidence. You are entitled to your impressions, but impressions are not established facts simply because you are confident in them.



For reference the prevalence of left-handiness went from 0 to 12% of the population in a generation.




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Trannies are mentally ill whack-jobs.
Top tier demturds too...

Left handed people were once thought to be possessed by the devil or evil spirits. Thankfully, thousands of years of intellectual and social evolution moved most of humanity beyond that kind of ignorant superstition. Apparently, it skipped you.


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"Same with Islam. Plenty of polls reputable firms show how backwards most of the Muslim world is, and how hostile to the west. The fact that a handful of Muslims start a few organizations isn’t going to budge those views…"

literally this.
 
"Same with Islam. Plenty of polls reputable firms show how backwards most of the Muslim world is, and how hostile to the west. The fact that a handful of Muslims start a few organizations isn’t going to budge those views…"

literally this.

The majority of Muslims live in the Asian pacific, you continue to focus on middle eastern states. You have to be pretending being this dumb.


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The majority of Muslims live in the Asian pacific, you continue to focus on middle eastern states. You have to be pretending being this dumb.


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And you think where their located on the map makes any difference, correct?
 
And you think where their located on the map makes any difference, correct?

I know that every country you dumb asses use as an example is in the Middle East, but honestly, you can’t find shit on a map anyways.


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