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Using tren(low)dose along with test for trt?

CLEMAR49 said:
Anyone ever run tren low dose at 50mg weekly along with their trt long term? Ive been hearing more & more about this & some potential benefits. If bloods are good what's everyone's opinion on this?
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I probably would do 12 weeks on and off and see how your bloodwork is. I wouldn’t do permanent trt with it
 
I did test/tren/mast at a low dose for 12 weeks until I got hiccups for a week. That was my que to pull back lol.


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CLEMAR49 said:
Anyone ever run tren low dose at 50mg weekly along with their trt long term? Ive been hearing more & more about this & some potential benefits. If bloods are good what's everyone's opinion on this?
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Get blood work and cycle off it. Can’t stay on it indefinitely.. eventually you’ll end up paying the piper
 
CLEMAR49 said:
Anyone ever run tren low dose at 50mg weekly along with their trt long term? Ive been hearing more & more about this & some potential benefits. If bloods are good what's everyone's opinion on this?
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I used Tren several time and its one of the best compounds in my opinion but sides are too much. I completely retired from taking tren and I never passed 300mg. Even at 200 cough and bad bad bad hiccups killed me. I had hiccups for a week and it is extremely uncomfortable. Now that doesn't mean its going to happen to you, just sharing my personal experience.
 
CLEMAR49 said:
Anyone ever run tren low dose at 50mg weekly along with their trt long term? Ive been hearing more & more about this & some potential benefits. If bloods are good what's everyone's opinion on this?
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I’m not saying it’s not a thing but you’ve got to look at this logically. Tren is one of the most toxic anabolics and was made for livestock to increase size and appetite. It’s been used for years in body building and powerlifting but as it’s already been said, some guys done even use it anymore due to the sides. You may be fine with a low dose for several weeks but I’m curious of what you’re looking to get out of it. There may be another compound to use instead of Tren. Even at a low dose, Over time it’s going to hammer your liver, lipids and BP.
 
So now testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is TRT&T?
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I know someone on here (I think) did this, TRT + 50mg a week of Tren (I think), had been on for a yr (or something) without any major issues. I don’t remember exactly but something like that, hopefully whoever it was can jump in and tell more about his TRT+Tren.
 
Nood said:
Get blood work and cycle off it. Can’t stay on it indefinitely.. eventually you’ll end up paying the piper
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I mean honestly? At 50mg I’d argue maybe you could… but it’s pointless lol

Likely not going to see anything good or bad from 50mg a week imo
 
SamPedd18 said:
I’m not saying it’s not a thing but you’ve got to look at this logically. Tren is one of the most toxic anabolics and was made for livestock to increase size and appetite. It’s been used for years in body building and powerlifting but as it’s already been said, some guys done even use it anymore due to the sides. You may be fine with a low dose for several weeks but I’m curious of what you’re looking to get out of it. There may be another compound to use instead of Tren. Even at a low dose, Over time it’s going to hammer your liver, lipids and BP.
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Where do people get these goofy pie in the sky ideas of the steroids? Tren is probably more deleterious to the lipids than other steroids. But its still 20x more sustainable and "safe" than any oral. What fucks people on tren is almost always insomnia or mood changes
 
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GonadalGooner88 said:
Where do people get these goofy pie in the sky ideas of the steroids? Tren is probably more deleterious to the lipids than other steroids. But its still 20x more sustainable and "safe" than any oral. What fucks people on tren is almost always insomnia or mood changes
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Are you saying what I stated is not true?
 
GonadalGooner88 said:
Where do people get these goofy pie in the sky ideas of the steroids? Tren is probably more deleterious to the lipids than other steroids. But its still 20x more sustainable and "safe" than any oral. What fucks people on tren is almost always insomnia or mood changes
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People generally exaggerate Tren in general imo. I’m all for responsible use but this new idea that anything over like 10mg a day is inherently dangerous and reckless is pretty laughable.
 
I did a six week run of starting at 75 mg and titrating up to 100mg (granted higher than you suggested) with 200 mg Test. I definitely noticed a difference on the strength side for sure. Still got night sweats and turned me into a chia pet. No other AAS I have taken gave me body hair.

Considering doing it again in a few months if blood work looks good.
 
I’ve heard of guys doing this with Parabolan but there are safer options out there to get more benefits with less consequences.

Personally I am happy with a TRT dose along with HGH. This works great for me. I can throw in some Mast E and that also works very well.
 
CLEMAR49 said:
Anyone ever run tren low dose at 50mg weekly along with their trt long term? Ive been hearing more & more about this & some potential benefits. If bloods are good what's everyone's opinion on this?
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One of the issues I see with running Tren in such a longer duration is the alteration/GR antagonism and shift in HPA axis (possible/potential)

Tren can also lower or blunt circulating IGF-1, mainly because it:
  • Increases physiological stress (HPA activation)
  • Can impair liver IGF-1 production.
  • Often suppresses insulin sensitivity, which indirectly affects IGF-1.
But Despite lower serum IGF-1, tren can increase local IGF-1 expression in muscle.

Tren can also lower DHT.

-Trenbolone is not 5-alpha reducible.
-It does not convert to DHT.
  • It strongly suppresses endogenous testosterone → less substrate to make DHT.
  • Tren itself binds the androgen receptor more strongly than DHT.
So Serum DHT often drops, but androgenic signaling does not—it usually increases.
 
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For what it’s worth, beta-amyloid (Aβ)–related issues linked to trenbolone can be squashed if you’re actually getting proper sleep.

Also, don’t trash your sleep or set yourself up for night sweats by tanking your estrogen.
 
If you like the content Vigorous Steve makes on youtube (some do some dont) he had a long video on this recently. He claimed to make great gains and conjectures that some of the effects that make Tren such a powerful drug like glucocorticoid receptor blocking and nutrient partioning still happen at low doses, making it effective.
 
Meetketchup said:
Seen plenty of BW that even 35mg/week ran over time will hit markers fairly hard. You will certainly get a partitioning effect though. :)
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I wouldn’t argue that 200 test vs 200 test plus say 70 tren wouldn’t have an effect on lipids, but hit hard?

I tried the 10mg Ed thing myself and the effects on mine certainly weren’t anything drastic but everyone is different 🤷‍♂️
 
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Meetketchup said:
Seen plenty of BW that even 35mg/week ran over time will hit markers fairly hard. You will certainly get a partitioning effect though. :)
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Also curious, do you know anything else about the protocol these people are doing? Any supplementation, cardio etc? 35mg is crazy low a dose, I’ve never heard of that being used ngl
 
FearsomeCOR said:
Also curious, do you know anything else about the protocol these people are doing? Any supplementation, cardio etc? 35mg is crazy low a dose, I’ve never heard of that being used ngl
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No of course not. Taking health supplements and drugs to counter side effects of drugs is just too extreme. Ezetimibe, telmisartan, baby aspirin, natto, fish oil, nebivolol, magnesium, d3? Forget about it, thats just overthinking. Cardio? I dont have time for that. Diet? I eat whatever I please.
 
celrin321 said:
If you like the content Vigorous Steve makes on youtube (some do some dont) he had a long video on this recently. He claimed to make great gains and conjectures that some of the effects that make Tren such a powerful drug like glucocorticoid receptor blocking and nutrient partioning still happen at low doses, making it effective.
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I think doses as low as 10 mg of tren daily may be sufficient to produce GRA effects and body composition/metabolic changes, without introducing beta-amyloid (Aβ)–related issues.
 
Cypher said:
One of the issues I see with running Tren in such a longer duration is the alteration/GR antagonism and shift in HPA axis (possible/potential)

Tren can also lower or blunt circulating IGF-1, mainly because it:
  • Increases physiological stress (HPA activation)
  • Can impair liver IGF-1 production.
  • Often suppresses insulin sensitivity, which indirectly affects IGF-1.
But Despite lower serum IGF-1, tren can increase local IGF-1 expression in muscle.

Tren can also lower DHT.

-Trenbolone is not 5-alpha reducible.
-It does not convert to DHT.
  • It strongly suppresses endogenous testosterone → less substrate to make DHT.
  • Tren itself binds the androgen receptor more strongly than DHT.
So Serum DHT often drops, but androgenic signaling does not—it usually increases.
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So what your saying is.....If you want to add tren to your trt regimen, raise the test dose to 500 and add primo and mast. Hell yeah i like that TRT.
 
CLEMAR49 said:
Anyone ever run tren low dose at 50mg weekly along with their trt long term? Ive been hearing more & more about this & some potential benefits. If bloods are good what's everyone's opinion on this?
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No opinions or advice is helpful without more information about your current age, height, weight, years training, etc.
 
krazyk said:
No opinions or advice is helpful without more information about your current age, height, weight, years training, etc.
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What does that matter to his question? First question was pretty simple yes/no question, second was what peoples opinion was. Can’t see any reason why you can’t answer this without more information about OP. 🤔
 

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