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Nood said:
I member just pointed out which I over looked. My Primo 200 tested at 120primo 60 test E.. the Primo that was recalled was 120 Primo 60 Test Cyp.. fuckers have been cutting it the entire time.. Such a pos Frank Bell
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That's what I got from it when you posted everything, they've been cutting it for a while to make the raws stretch further getting all the money they could and fuckin everyone in the process. It's not the first time it's happened and it's not the last, believe that.
 
So is anyone still using the primo and just taking note it’s a test primo mix? Or are we all just tossing everything?
 
JB4976 said:
That's what I got from it when you posted everything, they've been cutting it for a while to make the raws stretch further getting all the money they could and fuckin everyone in the process. It's not the first time it's happened and it's not the last, believe that.
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Yeah I had a feeling but didn’t notice the different test ester for the primo, just the Masteron. Atleast I know 100% all of mine our trt blends and none are 100% Primo.
 
Nood said:
I know what’s in it so I’m gonna save it for a rainy day. Incase primo takes forever to return I’ll have an option
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Sometimes you gotta adjust and adapt, you know what's in it and adjust accordingly. Fuckin bullshit still, but it's definitely available for a rainy day.
 
@Nood

well that made me feel better I might keep it too LOL I hate to just toss a few thousand dollars lol

its just wild with how cheap raws are that anyone would not value a good customer over cutting a product that is already way in the green for profit.
 
Maxwell said:
@Nood

well that made me feel better I might keep it too LOL I hate to just toss a few thousand dollars lol

its just wild with how cheap raws are that anyone would not value a good customer over cutting a product that is already way in the green for profit.
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It's got something in it and you know what it probably is.

Just treat it like a blend and be thankful to H&B for the new option.
 
Hammer&Bell said:
If and when it becomes the last option.

We are attempting to leave peacefully and would prefer to avoid any further damage to this forum, this community, individual members, and other sponsors businesses and reputation.



No one wins a war sir.



Despite being attacked for years in many ways you are not aware of, and the latest open bashing, in the interest of peace and mutual prosperity, we are choosing to refrain from a destructive response.



We understand that this month has been dramatic and filled with twists and turns. We understand that for most viewers, this is all unconsequential, and theatrically appealing.



However, the words, actions and accusations towards us, as well as the information we are choosing to not to disclose at this time, WILL HAVE lasting counter-productive consequences for many, this is not a movie.


We have reached out in attempt to establish peace and part ways in a mutually beneficial way with the person(s) that it will affect most.



Rsspectfully, we ask that you be patient and allow cooler heads to prevail.



This months activity has brought a great deal of attention to many sponsors here, and in a greater degree, this forum and the AAS community.



That is bad for EVERYONE.



We tried to leave without the drama, we have been forced to remain on this forum.

The result of that is way too much attention to what we ALL are here for. Again, this is bad for everyone.



We remained silent for many days while the sponsor bashing and other implements of deception were weilded against us in a selfless attempt to take the spotlight off of the AAS community in general.



Many here have been swept up in the drama, wanting to be "part of the hot topic", forgetting that what we ALL do HERE, being a "hot topic" is again, BAD FOR US ALL.



Conflict only brings damage to everyone involved.



We are awaiting the replies from the person(s) we reached out to.



The BEST outcome for EVERYONE, would be for this to end quickly and peacefully.



There is nearly a month of content on this subject, every member has more than enough content to form an opinion on.



Its far past time for this to end for everyone's benefit.
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If you had any proof it would be the first fucking option not the "last". You keep talking about it, you claim to have receipts. Post it or shut the fuck up

You have no defense, all youre doing is railing against everybody else. If you had any proof Fletcher's look-at-me-I-know-everything ass woulda been all up in these threads with it

Stop acting like a bitch. Fucking people is one thing but you still gotta sleep at night knowing what a bitch you sound like. Good luck with that. I couldnt do it

I say all this as a loyal customer for 2 years. At least now I know why I thought auctus' test hit so hard, because the mast I run with it 365 is half fucking test

Thanks for that I guess lol

Auctus Bullshit.jpg
 
Anybody else getting promo emails all of a sudden from "hb_ronnie" talking about big sales and all the new jano tests they have?? Lol

Must be feeling the squeeze from this already, and still up in here screaming for their board to be deleted. H&B is toast. It was over for them 2 days ago. Theres no coming back from this
 
I have a few mast e’s left and a bunch of primo 200’s. Problem is they’re from different orders and I don’t trust that they’re all cut with the same stuff, or that some aren’t maybe even from before they started adulterating them.

But I’m Scots-Irish so I hate to waste money lol

Plan is that I’m going to combine all my mast e and all my primo 200’s (and might do the same with the half dozen mast p’s I have as who the fuck knows…) into one vial for each then send a ml of each to Jano. Then I’ll know exactly what my “rainy day blends” have in them and can plan cycles accordingly.

At least test cyp is my preferred ester 🫠


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Farmerdan said:
H&B is literally just trying to get their sub forum deleted so they can erase the history of what happened with their primo and masteron?

They’re trying to erase history so they can move their grift to the next forum and leave no trace behind….

I’d like to propose a vote that we ban all accounts and board rep accounts that are associated with H&B and Fletcher. But LEAVE the H&B sub forum and their profiles in tact. Leave the evidence.


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Agreed. It should be left up to serve as a reminder, and so the next board can have a reference of how shitty this source actually is
 
I just realized the Hammer and Bell main account does the thing where he’ll say something contentious and then punctuate it with a smiley face. Fletcher is the only other person on this board I’ve seen do that I think. So, that’s suspicious.
 
Androgenocide said:
I just realized the Hammer and Bell main account does the thing where he’ll say something contentious and then punctuate it with a smiley face. Fletcher is the only other person on this board I’ve seen do that I think. So, that’s suspicious.
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wheres detective gorden on this
 
I enjoy H&B somehow being forced to post because their account hasn’t been removed yet. “I want to stop posting here but I can’t because they haven’t removed my account yet”


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Nood said:
I member just pointed out which I over looked. My Primo 200 tested at 120primo 60 test E.. the Primo that was recalled was 120 Primo 60 Test Cyp.. fuckers have been cutting it the entire time.. Such a pos Frank Bell
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I think what’s really jacked up is it went on this long without it getting caught sooner.
 
None of these companies are any different. The have all been thru different names, different boards, different reps, over and over for years. They are the belle of the ball when they show up and are greasing the right people. Next thing you know, people dont get greased, tests show up bad, companies get bashed, disappear. Different names, different chronological order, same result. Over, and over
 
Chevymuscle515 said:
None of these companies are any different. The have all been thru different names, different boards, different reps, over and over for years. They are the belle of the ball when they show up and are greasing the right people. Next thing you know, people dont get greased, tests show up bad, companies get bashed, disappear. Different names, different chronological order, same result. Over, and over
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This is what is concerning to me. I haven’t been in the game near as long as others but it worries me that what is considered a solid, reputable source today, might actually be in the process of becoming the next H&B. That’s where I’m really trying to read a lot and rely on what the long time guys are saying. You can’t be around forever selling bad shit…..RIGHT???


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H&B can stop emailing me, pretty sure im not gonna be placing another order lol.
 
The truth is...
Without these types of situations. Asf wouldnt be asf. This is our version of tlc housewives n whatnot.
Members calling out vendors is healthy to an extent. Because we need to stay safe and they also need to stay in business.

I have no dog in this fight. Just like to be part of the community. But if there's truth n proof. Lets get actual eyes on rather than drip feed arguments. I say this from what I've initially saw a few days ago admitting I'm not fully caught up.
Hugs n kisses ya juicey sluts

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Jk4eva12 said:
So is gh real? Lol
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Looks like it depends on when you got it. Couple guys here are getting good results @Vee and @Startingover . But haven't had any serum or igf tests to my knowledge.



And another pulled serum and had nothing but his natty levels @Machforce1



And @Gibbs sent it to jano and it showed the worst results I've ever seen
 
zwhit said:
Looks like it depends on when you got it. Couple guys here are getting good results @Vee and @Startingover . But haven't had any serum or igf tests to my knowledge.



And another pulled serum and had nothing but his natty levels @Machforce1



And @Gibbs sent it to jano and it showed the worst results I've ever seen
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There was someone else who pulled IGF-1 and his numbers were lower than when he started taking it.

Can't remember who. It was in the Sub forum that's since been deleted.

So based off all recent HPLC and bloodwork its 0-3.
 
I just got a TD from H&B today. They've always done good by me. I'm not sure what's going on but I like H&B alot. I will say the cut 300 blend is crippling.. but everything else has been great. With great support. Arrives fast and packaged very well.
 
Wardamn said:
There was someone else who pulled IGF-1 and his numbers were lower than when he started taking it.

Can't remember who. It was in the Sub forum that's since been deleted.

So based off all recent HPLC and bloodwork its 0-3.
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Forgot about that one. That's the one I saw and asked about in their subforum and my post was immediately deleted. The deleted posts should've been a dead giveaway
 

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