I just switched over to this lab for testing, this past year Jano has made too many mistakes on raws.New testing for September 2025
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I just switched over to this lab for testing, this past year Jano has made too many mistakes on raws.
The last mistake really drove me away, it was 40% off!
We got some deca raws that was available the last 2 months, gone now though, all finished product with him tested to be above 90%.Tell me about these mistakes and are they posted here.
I don’t trust Jano at all based off when he was banned on 6 or so forums for evidence of tampering with samples that was passed around on all the forums.
We had a discussion and banned him here for years and then when he joined here as a member it was a close vote to not ban his account.
Got some EQ I now question getting a 2nd opinion on, I do still have the report on that but the sample won't arrive to AB until Monday.Tell me about these mistakes and are they posted here.
I don’t trust Jano at all based off when he was banned on 6 or so forums for evidence of tampering with samples that was passed around on all the forums.
We had a discussion and banned him here for years and then when he joined here as a member it was a close vote to not ban his account.
Got some EQ I now question getting a 2nd opinion on, I do still have the report on that but the sample won't arrive to AB until Monday.
How long have you been using AB?
Your welcome and I agree on hoping Jano gets the raws more dialed in, I like AB so far.Thanks for that info. I haven’t seen anything really the last 5yrs out Jano controversy wise. He slowly built his reputation back to where he’s been the number 1 testing lab for AAS for the last few years. All stuff where he was banned was 6-7yrs ago. I haven’t seen anything heard some mumbling a little from people thinking his testing might not always be accurate but can’t remember anyone testing the same batches with AB or another lab for verification. This is interesting. So everything you’ve seen indicates that only his raw powder testing is inconsistent but other testing has been good.
Well I hope they can get things cranked up again with production. Lion warned me of all this so stocked up on everything which will carry me thru 2025.
Not long with AB, two years, they’re more expensive but seem more professional. I don’t know enough about them to say their equipment is better or more up to date than Jano. Jano is a member here and he has been asked about certifications and calibrations on his equipment and he did show evidence that he was all up to date on everything but you know how that goes, people can lie and fake almost anything these days so no way to verify anything as facts
Sorry I mean IL Iron Lion not WL White Lion lol!Your welcome and I agree on hoping Jano gets the raws more dialed in, I like AB so far.
AB is cheaper on finished oils and raws, their tolerances are extremely smaller, mean more precise.
Jano has been extremely good to me and things happen, I can't have one as big as the deca though, I was going to toss a out a lot of raw deca because of it. But some of us came together and noticed an issue.
Jano has better communication but AB seem much more professional.
I'll be poking my nose around waiting for you guys to recover in raws.
Someone I highly respect and trust told me about WL.
Sorry I mean IL Iron Lion not WL White Lion lol!
Your welcome and I agree on hoping Jano gets the raws more dialed in, I like AB so far.
AB is cheaper on finished oils and raws, their tolerances are extremely smaller, mean more precise.
Jano has been extremely good to me and things happen, I can't have one as big as the deca though, I was going to toss a out a lot of raw deca because of it. But some of us came together and noticed an issue.
Jano has better communication but AB seem much more professional.
I'll be poking my nose around waiting for you guys to recover in raws.
Someone I highly respect and trust told me about WL.
White Lion is a rock band, that's were the confusion came.There was a RedLion source that used to be here as a sponsor. They were operating in 2024 before the shutdown
I is a PDF file. probably need to download, I'll covert to photo and upload.Thanks for posting but I don’t see the other test
thanks for testing us , just as follows we offer you 75$ as credit store, you can use it at any time, thanks again ,
This was tested on a different supplier, I just wanted to show the 2 different results of 2 different labs as an example.thanks for testing us , just as follows we offer you 75$ as credit store, you can use it at any time, thanks again ,
welcome, thanksThis was tested on a different supplier, I just wanted to show the 2 different results of 2 different labs as an example.
I will be testing the Tren A raws after it arrives and all raw I purchase from you!
Thanks you for working with me and showing me the telegram channel.
This was tested on a different supplier, I just wanted to show the 2 different results of 2 different labs as an example.
I will be testing the Tren A raws after it arrives and all raw I purchase from you!
Thanks you for working with me and showing me the telegram channel.
Yes, after that deca bs, having them mix up var and mast e twice and then mistake purity on tren e, I had to question the eq that had been testing 94% to 98% prior.Thanks for posting, so those are two tests of the same batch of EQ? Just wanting to be clear in that.
Yes, after that deca bs, having them mix up var and mast e twice and then mistake purity on tren e, I had to question the eq that had been testing 94% to 98% prior.
To be clear, I'm not trying to stir up anything about Jano, I'm just concerned this last year how raws have been very off. The proof comes when the finished product doesn't match up. An example. being told tren e is 88% so you adjust and the finished ends up 220mg, then others post the same batch of raws at 98%
We are seeing this as of late with some deca, tests not matching up.
As I told @ironlion in an email, get a 2nd opinion on raw tests if they seem off.
In reality, raw tests like this is messing up the whole game.
This is actually the only place I have opened up about this, started by seeing you using the same lab as I do.
We have seen raws off on the low side, I have seen plenty oils I felt were too high. I can't speak for caps, pills, peptides or gh.I really appreciate the info because your not the first person that I’ve seen say this, just in the past year this has come up a few times, not only that Lion has brought to my attention a couple of tests that he didn’t think were right on the peptides but I can’t say for certain that any of them were retested out of the same batch with a different lab to prove it. I’ll have to ask him. I can’t speak for him but dont think he wants to use Jano anymore because of the inconsistency he’s seen. We were already talking about this before you posted any of this.
So you’ve seen this problem mainly in the powder tests so I’d assume tablets also? But in oils he’s been ok?
We have seen raws off on the low side, I have seen plenty oils I felt were too high. I can't speak for caps, pills, peptides or gh.
I glad to be having this conversation, @ironlion is not the only supplier to not trust Jano labs anymore.
We were really blown away by deca being 54% with Jano but 94% with AB, while the finished products were matching 94%. Same batch 2 weeks prior tested 78%. This is when we decided to try AB.
Just imagine how this can bring down as lab in an instant!