Questions about starting steroids

[Kent Davis]

First, as you can probably tell, I'm new to steroids. That's why I'm here asking questions.

I've been training for some time and am now getting older, so I want to keep and maintain what I've built. I understand that taking steroids isn't without risks. I'm interested in finding out a bit more about oral steroids as they seem less risky than injectables.
I've heard of sites like Pharmacom Labs and Purity Source Labs which sell steroids online, but as steroids are illegal, how safe is it to order from them? How can I prevent myself from getting into legal hot water from ordering from them and how do I know what I'm getting is what they advertise it is? It also seems like it's a real convoluted process to buy from these sites, as they require bitcoin.
As you can tell, I have a lot more questions than answers and again, that's why I'm asking. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Kent

 

[Farmerdan]

Welcome to the board. Your questions are super basic, like it’s pretty obvious you haven’t really done any research at all. For instance, oral steroids definitely are not inherently safer than injectables. I’d implore you to spend a significant time researching this in much more depth, if you have any concern at all for your health and well-being.

 

[Kent Davis]

Welcome to the board. Your questions are super basic, like it’s pretty obvious you haven’t really done any research at all. For instance, oral steroids definitely are not inherently safer than injectables. I’d implore you to spend a significant time researching this in much more depth, if you have any concern at all for your health and well-being.

That's why I'm asking. I am looking for whatever information I can get. Thanks.

 

[BulkHead]

Do the research brother. No one should do it for you. I'm certain these questions will spring up others because they are so basic. You have to learn to help yourself.

 

[celrin321]

1) Injectables aren't "less safe" than orals, most people here would argue the opposite. The injections themselves are a harmless procedure and it is exceedingly rare for something to go wrong (you are just pricking a muscle with a tiny needle and pushing in a little oil).

2) Starting steroids (orals, injectables, whatever the fuck you want) will shut down your natural testosterone production. You can bring this back with PCT, but the more cycles you run the harder arguably this becomes. Most guys here for this reason just cruise on a very low dose of testosterone when they aren't on cycle (TRT). So many people go into this thinking "I'll just do one cycle" but steroids are mentally addicting and once you realize how much more fun training on gear is, you will probably want to do more. The analogy I like is training on gear is like having sex without a condom: The first time you do you're never using a condom again.

3) Different steroids have different side effects and this is why you need to do your research. Hair loss, acne, bad blood pressure, heart problems, depression and anxiety can be non-existent to moderate to severe across compounds and users. That's why once you start there is some degree of experimentation so you can figure out what works best for you and what you are most comfortable with in terms of sides.

4) Ordering gear online seems to be incredibly safe. It always has shocked me how easy it is and I guess the reason is feds are worried about different classes of drugs. You aren't going to have Kash Patel with a SWAT team kicking down your door over a couple vials (or even a dozen) of testosterone and some anavar. A lot of the sponsors here its like Amazon prime. Put in an order and a few days letter my gear is on my doorstep.

5) Regarding the "how do I know what I'm getting" is important, especially recently where unfortunately there has been a lot of bunk shit. I would trust a sponsor most that provides (recent) testing of their products from Janoshik.

6) The consensus opinion on how you should start is i) make sure you know how to fucking train and diet ii) Get your bloodwork BEFORE YOU START so you know all your baseline levels of hormones and other biomarkers and if somethings if fucked FIX IT FIRST, then iii) Start either trt (200mg testosterone/week) and assess how you feel or just go straight to a light blast of testosterone (350-500mg/week) and assess how you feel. Testosterone needs to be the base of anything you do.

I would just do more research around here. Youtube has a lot of steroid "influencers" you can watch like Vigorous Steve that generally provide good information at a high level of detail but some people here will disagree with me about that.

When you have more specific questions feel free to ask, the posters are generally friendly, helpful, and a lot of the dudes have honestly incredible knowledge and such extensive experience. Some of this is just a science experiment so often there is no single "right" answer to a question, and if you get flamed for being a noob retard dont take it personally its all fun.

 

[Kent Davis]

1) Injectables aren't "less safe" than orals, most people here would argue the opposite. The injections themselves are a harmless procedure and it is exceedingly rare for something to go wrong (you are just pricking a muscle with a tiny needle and pushing in a little oil).

2) Starting steroids (orals, injectables, whatever the fuck you want) will shut down your natural testosterone production. You can bring this back with PCT, but the more cycles you run the harder arguably this becomes. Most guys here for this reason just cruise on a very low dose of testosterone when they aren't on cycle (TRT). So many people go into this thinking "I'll just do one cycle" but steroids are mentally addicting and once you realize how much more fun training on gear is, you will probably want to do more. The analogy I like is training on gear is like having sex without a condom: The first time you do you're never using a condom again.

3) Different steroids have different side effects and this is why you need to do your research. Hair loss, acne, bad blood pressure, heart problems, depression and anxiety can be non-existent to moderate to severe across compounds and users. That's why once you start there is some degree of experimentation so you can figure out what works best for you and what you are most comfortable with in terms of sides.

4) Ordering gear online seems to be incredibly safe. It always has shocked me how easy it is and I guess the reason is feds are worried about different classes of drugs. You aren't going to have Kash Patel with a SWAT team kicking down your door over a couple vials (or even a dozen) of testosterone and some anavar. A lot of the sponsors here its like Amazon prime. Put in an order and a few days letter my gear is on my doorstep.

5) Regarding the "how do I know what I'm getting" is important, especially recently where unfortunately there has been a lot of bunk shit. I would trust a sponsor most that provides (recent) testing of their products from Janoshik.

6) The consensus opinion on how you should start is i) make sure you know how to fucking train and diet ii) Get your bloodwork BEFORE YOU START so you know all your baseline levels of hormones and other biomarkers and if somethings if fucked FIX IT FIRST, then iii) Start either trt (200mg testosterone/week) and assess how you feel or just go straight to a light blast of testosterone (350-500mg/week) and assess how you feel. Testosterone needs to be the base of anything you do.

I would just do more research around here. Youtube has a lot of steroid "influencers" you can watch like Vigorous Steve that generally provide good information at a high level of detail but some people here will disagree with me about that.

When you have more specific questions feel free to ask, the posters are generally friendly, helpful, and a lot of the dudes have honestly incredible knowledge and such extensive experience. Some of this is just a science experiment so often there is no single "right" answer to a question, and if you get flamed for being a noob retard dont take it personally its all fun.

Thanks much for the help!

 

[Bolan]

4) Ordering gear online seems to be incredibly safe. It always has shocked me how easy it is and I guess the reason is feds are worried about different classes of drugs. You aren't going to have Kash Patel with a SWAT team kicking down your door over a couple vials (or even a dozen) of testosterone and some anavar. A lot of the sponsors here its like Amazon prime. Put in an order and a few days letter my gear is on my doorstep.

Don't even say this..... I known many many including myself through the years... SWAT WILL kick open your door. they will hold you and your family hostage... Even if nobody is wearing clothes. Ransack you home n shit.

You get popped with a dozen vials... your going to club fed. No get out of jail free card. Your gonna serve time.
AAS are in the same classification as all the hard drugs.
Hard truth.

 

[celrin321]

Don't even say this..... I known many many including myself through the years... SWAT WILL kick open your door. they will hold you and your family hostage... Even if nobody is wearing clothes. Ransack you home n shit.

You get popped with a dozen vials... your going to club fed. No get out of jail free card. Your gonna serve time.
AAS are in the same classification as all the hard drugs.
Hard truth.

And this is why I said trust the OGs around here like Bolan

Ty for the correction

 

[Lustyscripps]

but as steroids are illegal, how safe is it to order from them? How can I prevent myself from getting into legal hot water from ordering from them

For the love of all things fuck- you start by not using your actual name on a steroid forum. Am I seeing this correctly?

 

[Deepsea]

I always find it comical that the first response to “do more research, your asking basic obvious questions that can be answered by taking time to learn and research online” is for the OP to get defensive and say “well I want to learn that’s why I’m asking basic questions”

What about due diligence research don’t you understand? These are all basic topics answered and covered thousands of times here and online in forums/reddit/x/youtube etc. Your surface level understanding is not enough to justify jumping into something with risk and not taking proper time to learn further. Dig deeper and don’t rush into things, we all were in your position at the beginning. If you want it bad enough you’ll do the work.

It will all start to make sense once you become more well rounded in your knowledge. No one is going to spoon feed you, it would be a disservice and potentially aiding in a negative outcome.

 

[calf10]

First, as you can probably tell, I'm new to steroids. That's why I'm here asking questions.

I've been training for some time and am now getting older, so I want to keep and maintain what I've built. I understand that taking steroids isn't without risks. I'm interested in finding out a bit more about oral steroids as they seem less risky than injectables.
I've heard of sites like Pharmacom Labs and Purity Source Labs which sell steroids online, but as steroids are illegal, how safe is it to order from them? How can I prevent myself from getting into legal hot water from ordering from them and how do I know what I'm getting is what they advertise it is? It also seems like it's a real convoluted process to buy from these sites, as they require bitcoin.
As you can tell, I have a lot more questions than answers and again, that's why I'm asking. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Kent

You are not even new to steroids yet Your best bet will be to talk to a doctor, some steroids can be prescribed. Docs will guide you what is legal and what is not. This is the second best advise in an illegal industry for you, best advise is "do not use steroids"