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protocol my old man has been on, 52 y/o, month 6. Beast now, but question at bottom

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So my dad is a pretty energetic guy, pushes himself hard, but after high school athletics pretty much just worked (construction) full time. Had kids, then re-discovered backpacking and triathlons. One of the biggest roadblocks/mental challenges was that the guys he went with or competed against were all doctors, lawyers, etc, who went to these races or hikes after a long week of sitting around, standing occasionally, and generally only exerting themselves in sport-specific training. I remember we went to a big triathlon and the day before, no lie, we were hauling around block and mixing concrete for like 11 hours.

He's a mad dog, worked hard played hard, and is now pretty busted up. Let himself go over the last 3-4 years and started accumulating weight around the midsection (though peaked at 155 lbs, 5'8"). Still able to out-hike the average Joe, but diet wasn't any good and structured athletic exercise was non-existent.

Enter gear.

I made him lose 8 pounds first on his own. Mentally, I think he would've used gear as a crutch. But with the promise of feeling like a 30 year old again (and me busting on him for being fat) he tightened up his diet like crazy and started adding very modest amounts of exercise. Once I knew the 8 pounds was legit (not just water weight or less food in his gut), we started treatment.

**Cyp 250/Deca50, 1 cc a week
25mg Anavar, 1 pill a day
.25ml Arimidex a day

** This is what he is currently up to. We started with just the Cyp/Deca, then added Anavar week 6. Added Arimidex week 3 after his nipples started getting sensitive (did an aggressive 1ml for 4 days, .5ml for 3 days, then down to .25)

He maintained the diet, and then tightened it up even more. Started forcing himself to go through actual workouts after a long day of work, and gained confidence when he could wake up the next day and not be totally destroyed.

Note: Though his performance in a given session/day/hike has improved, he is still wrecked by the end. The difference is that he wakes up and is able to go back at it.

Question: I told him at the very start he would have an issue with his muscles getting stronger than his joints/ligaments/tendons could handle, and at month 6 this has really kicked in. He's got crazy pipes now, and is used to doing certain movements full force (like pressing against a sheet of drywall). It's leaving his shoulders/tendons all messed up, he is just too strong for the other parts of his body. Apart from HGH, is there anything users on here have tried to help alleviate this? Fish oil, another supp, etc?

Future: My plan is to start him on higher doses of Deca instead of the blend, I'm hoping this helps some of these pain-related issues.

Thank you in advance for your feedback
 
Man I'm gonna have to call age on this. I am in the same boat just a little younger. A life of manual labor has taken it's toll . Look for a guy here named Zglymal , I think I spelled it right , He knows a lot about supps and if anyone knows he will.
 
Great read. Great story! Your in the construction business so you know if your gonna build a brick shit house you're gonna need bricks. Proper nutrition and some joint supplements.


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Thanks guys, he definitely needs some joint supplements. It seems like fish oil and glucosamine are really the only tried/true options, so I'll go there (unless you have other suggestions). At the end of the month I'm upping his Test to 300/week, Deca 100/week (hopefully that'll be enough Test to stave off the Deca dick), and Anavar to 50mg/day.

Is there any health-related reason why this combination can't be sustained for months/years? As it relates to the need of "rotating steroidal hormones..." I've heard running the same gear over a long time is no good, but this isn't for elite performance or anything like that...
 
looking for help, father just got bloodwork back and his cholesterol has continued to rise.

So I don't have the exact #s right now but hopefully will by the end of the week. My dad has gone in periodically for bloodwork (not TRT related, his doc is pretty against it) and just before his first cycle the doc said his cholesterol levels were kind of high. His first cycle we used Arimidex as an AI. He then got more bloodwork done after the first cycle, just got the results back. They were even higher, and the doc is recommending medication, and cutting out all red meat and eggs.

I've read that Arimidex can have negative effects on cholesterol. However, he is now on 300mg Test C and 300 deca a week. 20mg/day Nolvadex.

I've read Nolvadex should help manage bad cholesterol. Also I believe he is prone to cholesterol problems, and does have a blood condition that caused some clotting in his legs a few years ago. I recognize that without the specific names of these conditions, or #s for the cholesterol levels, you might not be able to help. But I'm panicking a bit, my grandpa (other side of the family) passed away 2 weeks ago of a heart attack and now I'm just on edge. I will get these #s for y'all, but does anyone have any experience/words of wisdom?
 
I'm upping his Test to 300/week, Deca 100/week (hopefully that'll be enough Test to stave off the Deca dick), and Anavar to 50mg/day.

Is there any health-related reason why this combination can't be sustained for months/years?
Yes, high hematocrit, high hemoglobin, high blood pressure, did I miss anything?
 
drop the var and watch him start feeling better with a few weeks. Anavar can be brutal and HGH can make things alot worst.





salute,
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Awesome that he's getting back after it. That just seems like a shit ton of anavar to do for an extended period of time. It all seems like alot actully but I'm no expert
 

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