Primo or Mast Next - Help please!

[King_Nothing]

Noob here. I am finishing a cycle of 400mgs Sustanon (weekly) + 20mgs Dbol (daily). I am on TRT so I normally take 200mgs T per week. I just doubled it for this cycle with the Dbol. I have enjoyed this cycle but still in the learning phase. Looking for the next cycle to be either Primo or Mast. I am thinking 500mgs T plus Primo or Mast. Please coach me on where I may be off here. Goal=gain and keep mass. Not interested in being lean, currently.

1) How much PCT between Dbol cycle and new Primo/Mast cycle.
2) Primo or Mast? What starting dose for each?

Note: I run high E. On 200 mgs T I have to take AI or my E goes up to 150+. On 1 mg of AI per week, I am around 70.

Also - I have no idea what I am doing - just trying to learn and get better.

 

[aimanabolic]

I would say the choice between the 2 depends on your wallet.

You get more Mast for less. I chose Masteron because I'm poor.

 

[aimanabolic]

1) How much PCT between Dbol cycle and new Primo/Mast cycle.

Depends on bloodwork, if good you don't really need to IMO

2) Primo or Mast? What starting dose for each?

Primo same amount as Test gets close to 40 Estradiol (still check bloodwork to confirm)

Mast, more is better?

 

[Nobodyishere]

Mast > everything.

You’re high if you think breast cancer injections won’t fucking blow u up.

 

[aimanabolic]

Mast > everything.

You’re high if you think breast cancer injections won’t fucking blow u up.

Bumped to 60mg ED and had a fkn boner that wouldn't go away this morning. Was about to go into the gym pitching a tent. Glad I'm off Cialis right now or it probably wouldn't have

 

[Nobodyishere]

Bumped to 60mg ED and had a fkn boner that wouldn't go away this morning. Was about to go into the gym pitching a tent. Glad I'm off Cialis right now or it probably wouldn't have

Cialis is daily supp in my book. Don’t play urself

 

[aimanabolic]

Cialis is daily supp in my book. Don’t play urself

I'm playing with my blood pressure right now, had it drop too low a couple of times. Dialing it in and then bringing it back at 5mg again. 10mg+ ED was giving me annoying lower back pumps.

 

[JC33]

Mast > everything.

You’re high if you think breast cancer injections won’t fucking blow u up.

Frontline treatment for gains and titty cancer. A “jack of all trades”

 

[Curlieque]

If you have no idea what you're doing, search search search! You'll stay busy for weeks or months learning.

How much did you gain with this current cycle?
No experience with either, but I'd want to try primo between the 2. Try 1 then next cycle try the next.

 

[Nobodyishere]

I'm playing with my blood pressure right now, had it drop too low a couple of times. Dialing it in and then bringing it back at 5mg again. 10mg+ ED was giving me annoying lower back pumps.

Buddy you gotta just take 1200mg of caffeine for the blood pressure and the back pumps u need to love. This is a beautiful pain we’re all experiencing what the fuck are we doing???!!!!

 

[aimanabolic]

Note: I run high E. On 200 mgs T I have to take AI or my E goes up to 150+. On 1 mg of AI per week, I am around 70.

What's your BF%?

Pinning more often helps with E2. If you're pinning only once, try swapping to MWF or ED.

 

[JC33]

What's your BF%?

Pinning more often helps with E2. If you're pinning only once, try swapping to MWF or ED.

I would pin test Ed but I’m at like 6 daily pins with insulin and gh and I can’t keep ordering 100 count boxes of slin pins

 

[aimanabolic]

Buddy you gotta just take 1200mg of caffeine for the blood pressure and the back pumps u need to love. This is a beautiful pain we’re all experiencing what the fuck are we doing???!!!!

Lol lower back pumps confuse me at work because I move a lot of heavy awkwardly shaped shit. I need to know it's just a pump and not fkd

Day after chest day always fks me up, it starts on the left pec every time. Feeling it right now, later (hopefully) the right pec will start feeling it.

 

[aimanabolic]

I would pin test Ed but I’m at like 6 daily pins with insulin and gh and I can’t keep ordering 100 count boxes of slin pins

Can't or won't?

 

[Nobodyishere]

Lol lower back pumps confuse me at work because I move a lot of heavy awkwardly shaped shit. I need to know it's just a pump and not fkd

If u can walk ur good

Day after chest day always fks me up, it starts on the left pec every time. Feeling it right now, later (hopefully) the right pec will start feeling it.

GOOOOD!

 

[King_Nothing]

Mast > everything.

You’re high if you think breast cancer injections won’t fucking blow u up.

Hey man - can you help me understand this? I am still very new and trying to learn. You all are great but I dont have a foundation of knowledge to pull form yet.

 

[JC33]

Hey man - can you help me understand this? I am still very new and trying to learn. You all are great but I dont have a foundation of knowledge to pull form yet.

Just think of everything’s. Thats a lot. Masteron is greater than that.

 

[dcdogz]

I would pin test Ed but I’m at like 6 daily pins with insulin and gh and I can’t keep ordering 100 count boxes of slin pins

i know what you mean, feel like a fucking pin cushion. I try to pick androgens that allow me to do mwf at the most. everyday with gh/bpc/tne is already super annoying.

 

[mae_geri]

Noob here. I am finishing a cycle of 400mgs Sustanon (weekly) + 20mgs Dbol (daily). I am on TRT so I normally take 200mgs T per week. I just doubled it for this cycle with the Dbol. I have enjoyed this cycle but still in the learning phase. Looking for the next cycle to be either Primo or Mast. I am thinking 500mgs T plus Primo or Mast. Please coach me on where I may be off here. Goal=gain and keep mass. Not interested in being lean, currently.

1) How much PCT between Dbol cycle and new Primo/Mast cycle.
2) Primo or Mast? What starting dose for each?

Note: I run high E. On 200 mgs T I have to take AI or my E goes up to 150+. On 1 mg of AI per week, I am around 70.

Also - I have no idea what I am doing - just trying to learn and get better.

You're asking for PCT (and how long between cycles) and in the same post you write "I am on TRT so I normally take 200mgs T per week"...you should stay on TRT after this cycle.....because you already know you go for another one.

I tried Primo and I tried Mast.......if you go for ratio 1:1 primo will be the bether AI than mast...that was my experience...but there are people running even less mast (or primo) to test and don't need any AI.

I think mast is a little better for strength while primo gave that hard looking veiny effect in a calorie deficit, it's perfect for the summer. You have to try both in different cycle of course.

 

[King_Nothing]

You're asking for PCT (and how long between cycles) and in the same post you write "I am on TRT so I normally take 200mgs T per week"...you should stay on TRT after this cycle.....because you already know you go for another one.

I tried Primo and I tried Mast.......if you go for ratio 1:1 primo will be the bether AI than mast...that was my experience...but there are people running even less mast (or primo) to test and don't need any AI.

I think mast is a little better for strength while primo gave that hard looking veiny effect in a calorie deficit, it's perfect for the summer. You have to try both in different cycle of course.

I appreciate you!

 

[qwik]

primo is 20% more anabolic then masteron, but double or triple the price. pick whatever you can

 

[TXlifter89]

Similar look between the two compounds but Primo really reduces my need for any AI. Last run off 600/400 Test and Primo had my Estro in the 20’s with no AI. Primo really doesn’t shine IMO until 12-20 weeks….not that it isn’t working before hand it’s just much more noticeable the longer the run.