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PERMANENT KIDNEY DAMAGE???

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Would these numbers go back to normal after blasting & back to trt? I was using around 4-500mgs tren ace-enanthate weekly along with 1gram cypionate & anadrol for last 2 months(100mgs) daily. I have recently(3 weeks now) dropped down to 500mgs of cyp only. This bloodwork was done on 2-9-26. Are my kidneys PERMANENTLY damaged?
Don't panic at all. According to the labs GFR my kidneys are in stage for failure. That test is outdated and needs to be compared with many other tests to get accurate results. The most accurate kidney test is the Cyastin C. My results come back perfect. My GP was freaking out and when I told him the GFR was not good he disagreed. I asked the specialist to do a Cyastin C test and he confirmed my kidneys were perfectly healthy and normal. Muscle mass does effect the GFR test. Anyway brother, do your research and do what's best for you. I am not a doctor but just sharing my personal experience.
 
What is you BUN/Creat. And what were prior values. GFR in isolation doesnt equate to renal disease. It is a calculated number based of creatinine. Things like age, muscle mass and protein intake call all throw this value. If it were anything it may be mild AKI which you should recover from if you give your body a rest, control your BP and back off the sauce a bit.
It indicates something acute since OP was on cycle but if it stays like this chronically then it’ll definitely be classified as disease
 
Last time I ran tren & anadrol was 20 yrs ago when I was 28.
Running Tren that high and Drol for 2 months @ 100mg.
Not at our age bud...
Test, Deca, Npp, Mast E/P are really the only things I could run
once I reached 50.
Keep hydrated, flush the kidneys.
Retest in a couple months.

Steroid sides--------> The price we pay to be famous.
 
Check cyastatin c. May want to make sure you have life insurance in order before getting that result on record.
LOL... Not that your gonna die, but most life ins companies look into
your medical history. some make you pee in a cup too!
Pre existing "disease" usually is an automatic life ins denial.
 
Running Tren that high and Drol for 2 months @ 100mg.
Not at our age bud...
Test, Deca, Npp, Mast E/P are really the only things I could run
once I reached 50.
Keep hydrated, flush the kidneys.
Retest in a couple months.

Steroid sides--------> The price we pay to be famous.
Couldn't agree more. If you have been running gear for 10, 15, 20+ years... IMHO you should really think twice about 500+ mg/week Tren (or even 250+ for that matter), 100mg/day Abombs, 1g Test, etc. etc. Those aren't 50 y/o numbers, unless you're trying to not make it to 65 lol.
 
They say kidney stones can throw off bloodwork too. How many people on dialysis cause they are full of stones and not what docs say? Just saying heard this awhile back
 
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If anyone is currently suffering from bad kidney blood markers, I have a protocol I received personally from Leo and Longevity the week he died. Happy to share it if needed.

Awhile back, I ran eq and had elevated creatinine (1.4). I reached out to Leo freaking out, and he encouraged cyastatin c test and a protocol to try to reduce inflammation and heal kidneys.

Thankfully, cyastatin c came back perfect. Elevated creatinine was likely due to local inflammation and burning large amounts of protein at that time. In our instance, the inflammation never turned into scarring or permanent damage.

I’ve never touched eq again and never had any bad kidney blood markers again (creatinine on last blood panel was .86 after pushing pretty decent doses for 10 months straight).

For me, eq was poison, mentally and physically. I believe the elevated creatinine was from high bp.

Please, control your BP and stay hydrated.
 
If anyone is currently suffering from bad kidney blood markers, I have a protocol I received personally from Leo and Longevity the week he died. Happy to share it if needed.

Awhile back, I ran eq and had elevated creatinine (1.4). I reached out to Leo freaking out, and he encouraged cyastatin c test and a protocol to try to reduce inflammation and heal kidneys.

Thankfully, cyastatin c came back perfect. Elevated creatinine was likely due to local inflammation and burning large amounts of protein at that time. In our instance, the inflammation never turned into scarring or permanent damage.

I’ve never touched eq again and never had any bad kidney blood markers again (creatinine on last blood panel was .86 after pushing pretty decent doses for 10 months straight).

For me, eq was poison, mentally and physically. I believe the elevated creatinine was from high bp.

Please, control your BP and stay hydrated.
The more I read into EQ seems like it’s affects the blood pressure and kidneys even at a lower dose. I planned it into my next cycle but now I may just stick to test Deca Hgh again since my goals is just to gain another 5 pounds.
 
The more I read into EQ seems like it’s affects the blood pressure and kidneys even at a lower dose. I planned it into my next cycle but now I may just stick to test Deca Hgh again since my goals is just to gain another 5 pounds.
I don't know how I ran that shit for years and years... Non stop
and at retarted dosages. Yeah at the time my Ex wife would drain a
pint for me every other month, that kept my bloodwork somewhat
normal.
If I could go back a decade or 2 ... I would definitely lowered my dose
and cycled EQ. I really did enjoy my time with EQ and it did increase muscle mass and vascularity to disgusting levels.
Also a bad side for me was Anxiety........Never knew this about EQ back then but the anxiety was so much I thought I had anxiety disorder and went to a shrink to get some Valium.
 
I don't know how I ran that shit for years and years... Non stop
and at retarted dosages. Yeah at the time my Ex wife would drain a
pint for me every other month, that kept my bloodwork somewhat
normal.
If I could go back a decade or 2 ... I would definitely lowered my dose
and cycled EQ. I really did enjoy my time with EQ and it did increase muscle mass and vascularity to disgusting levels.
Also a bad side for me was Anxiety........Never knew this about EQ back then but the anxiety was so much I thought I had anxiety disorder and went to a shrink to get some Valium.
I wonder what causes the anxiety. Is it because of the constant suppression of e2 by EQ. I want to run 300mg per week but I’m hesitant. I wonder if hydration, Telmisartan, and grapefruits will be enough to keep hematocrit down. I also have some nootropics to help combat anxiety to relax the nervous system.
 
I wonder what causes the anxiety. Is it because of the constant suppression of e2 by EQ. I want to run 300mg per week but I’m hesitant. I wonder if hydration, Telmisartan, and grapefruits will be enough to keep hematocrit down. I also have some nootropics to help combat anxiety to relax the nervous system.
Brother, run 300mg a week all day long. It may mess with your H+H
we're all built different. Just do bloodwork and if your RBC and H+H
are high..BP high........Come off.
I don't "think" you'll get the anxiety I did because of the dosage.

My guys I train use it at times and low dose and report no anxiety
or H+H issues.

I was doing 1.6g a week for a long, long time, on top of other shit.
young n dumb.
 
I don't know how I ran that shit for years and years... Non stop
and at retarted dosages. Yeah at the time my Ex wife would drain a
pint for me every other month, that kept my bloodwork somewhat
normal.
If I could go back a decade or 2 ... I would definitely lowered my dose
and cycled EQ. I really did enjoy my time with EQ and it did increase muscle mass and vascularity to disgusting levels.
Also a bad side for me was Anxiety........Never knew this about EQ back then but the anxiety was so much I thought I had anxiety disorder and went to a shrink to get some Valium.
Dude the anxiety was worse than anything I’ve ever taken before. People complain about tren sides…I can literally take tren all day and never have any mental side effects. Give me some eq, and I feel like it’s the end of the world with crippling, debilitating anxiety.
 
Dude the anxiety was worse than anything I’ve ever taken before. People complain about tren sides…I can literally take tren all day and never have any mental side effects. Give me some eq, and I feel like it’s the end of the world with crippling, debilitating anxiety.
It would hit me when I was trying to fall asleep..... Boom a massive panic attack, thought it was a heart attack... Then it started happening every night
so I went to the Dr and told him I think I had a heart attack. EKG said no.

I had to wear a heart monitor for 72 hrs and everytime I had an "attack"
Id write down the time so they could go back on the recorder and check my vitals... Test came back, no issues with the heart.

They then sent me to a neurologist tests, nothing.... Then the Dr said Im going to give you a script for Lorazapam and I knew nothing about the shit,
well that fixed the" anxiety" but got me hooked on Benzos.

Had 40k in medical bills .... hooked on Benzos...

All because of EQ. :ROFLMAO:
 
I’ve had this happen just from being careless with my cycle my egfr went down to 50s and my urine was getting pretty dark.. with a solid cruise/health phase it went back up to the 90s but never has recovered past that but yeah also check cystatin c and next time watch your vital signs and use ancillary as needed run some kidney/liver protection at all times also watch the cholesterol eeesh becareful.


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Ran tren ace or enanthate from september 20th 2025 & stopped Jan 30th of 2026
your a madman over 4 months on tren, you need to stay off for 4-6 months and get a another lab and also a piss test to determine if you have a decline in kidney function.
 
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Ive been running gear now since June of 2025 pretty heavy: 500-1000mg test weekly, some anavar at 20mgs daily for about month back in october '25. Then ran anadrol from Jan 14th to Jan 30th of this year. Now just running between 500mgs cyp weekly
Is your goal to get kidney disease or just wreck your body entirely?

You are all over the place. Top of the thread you said Adrol for 2 months. In this comment it's 2 weeks. Neither is good practice. If you felt you needed 100mg daily Adrol after 3 months on tren you need to look at your diet and training.

What is your hematocrit/hemoglobin/blood pressure at? Pushing that much gear for 4-5 months mine would be blown out. With those elevated you won't see any benefit of any gear.

I would suggest shutting down, setting goals and planning cycles to reach them, then run them when your healthy again. Just randomly pinning and popping is just gonna hurt you.
 

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