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hello , searching online coach in bodybuilding under 1000-1500 $ a year
in this price I only know Dave Palumbo and as I searched most of them didn't like his communication and prep .
any suggestions ? please
 
I’ll caution that coaching is like many other things, you get what you pay for. Good coaches cost $$. There are some decent coaches here for sure
 
Do extensive research when hiring a coach. Talk to a bunch of them, understand their process, see how extensive their process is on the following: initial intake questions, their check-in process, opinions on diet, training, gear, if they can be reached during the week and most importantly, they understand YOUR goals. This will weed out the cookie cutter (I don't give af) coaches off the bat.

Do not use celebrity YouTube coaches.

Unless you are planning to get a pro card you do not need to spend more than $300 at MOST for coach. Plenty of awesome one's way under that.
 
Meetketchup said:
Do extensive research when hiring a coach. Talk to a bunch of them, understand their process, see how extensive their process is on the following: initial intake questions, their check-in process, opinions on diet, training, gear, if they can be reached during the week and most importantly, they understand YOUR goals. This will weed out the cookie cutter (I don't give af) coaches off the bat.

Do not use celebrity YouTube coaches.

Unless you are planning to get a pro card you do not need to spend more than $300 at MOST for coach. Plenty of awesome one's way under that.
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Are u still coaching?
 
Meetketchup said:
He can certainly DM me for info and strongly suggest he contact other great coaching options above, such as @CoachCabo @Wardamn @Montego, other son here and also people outside the board. It's all about fit not only for the client, but for the coach.
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This is the sign of a stand up coach, encouraging him to check others out to make sure it’s a good fit. Very stand up in my opinion
 
JackedCarpenter33 said:
@CoachCabo @Wardamn Not sure about yearly pricing, but these guys are top tier.
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Man I wish I could be an online coach for BJJ or Judo or even boxing. I wouldn’t have to rent a building. Wouldn’t have to pay insurance and because of recent legal restrictions I wouldn’t have to leave the house. I guess I picked the wrong sport again. Story of my life. Well that and always being an inch too short. lol
 
I have had two coaches. I have learned from both of them, but not in a way you’d expect.

One was initially what appears as “cookie cutter”, which is also what my programs might appear. But understand that a coach needs to start somewhere with what he knows and known results of that program. He doesn’t know you, so this is the only logical place to start.
Also, it gives a coach (me at least) and idea of what the new clients is doing. It won’t do any good to keep modifying a plan if the clients is only doing some of it. (This is 50% or more of clients from my experience. And I’m being generous.)

The best thing about this first coach is he would respond to any communication fairly quickly. I paid extra for “unlimited communication” and it was well worth it.
This is why unlimited communication is a part of my package. No extra charge. I have a new client that in his first month, I have probably spent four or five hours total just answering his texts. But I LOVE it. As someone who constantly seeks knowledge myself, I appreciate his desire to learn.

The first coach was an East Coast USA guy and we definitely didn’t see the world in the same way. But since I already know what I am doing and hired him as an “overwatch” only, I made my own adjustment. Most clients won’t have the capabilities of doing this.
(I described this before; where he wanted me to eat tilapia, but I have fresh fish available as I live in the #1 fishing place in the world.)

I wasn’t a fan of his one line responses either. Constantly asking for elaboration was a bit tedious. My goal for my clients is self efficacy. They can’t learn if things aren’t explained. If anything, I am long winded in my responses. (Surprise, surprise.)

That first coach took me to incredible shape at my first National show. No complaints. We still communicate, but mostly about our other passion; reptiles.

So when I hired my second coach, I knew what to ask. I pay him double what the first coach cost. After interviewing him, I hired him for several reasons that really aren’t worth getting into. But it badically comes down to the facts that he is old (my age of 60), he has a track record of many pro cards and he has a posing studio where he works with his clients closely concerning posing, which is my greatest weak spot.

I didn’t ask him about his thoughts on drugs, because I knew I would be making the final decision on them anyway. I am a very low drug guy, (only what is absolutely necessary) so I was going to keep with that concept regardless if he suggests grams.

Again, like the East Coaster, this guy seems to have little idea what the rest of the world is like. “Order this from Amazon…”, totally not understanding living in a 3rd world country, we can’t just get something instantly, on demand. We need lead time, if we can get it at all.

I have had mostly non-USA clients and one of the first thing I ask is, availability of food and supplements. Even now, for my American clients, I ask where they live and research what and where they can get items prescribed on my programs.

This brings up my second complaint; he doesn’t lay out anything for the future. I think some guys do this so you don’t abandon them. Sort of “hold their cards close”.
I know the concern, having laid out a program with a three month committment, only to never see payment for the second month. Too bad that people don’t understand that any of the info a coach can give is readily available everywhere on the internet. You pay the coach for adjustments and helping you sift through the internet garbage.

No matter who you choose, understand that you only get what you give. A coach should “vibe” with you in some way. You don’t have to be buddies, but you need to sort of “get” where each other is coming from.

Some guys want to be coddled. While I try to choose my words carefully, I have no tolerance for bullshit. I am as quick to fire a client as they are to fire me, if things aren’t working out.
As I mentioned, I (we) give out diets that produce known results. If you are eating exactly what we say, then we know what is going to happen. Lying is not lying to us. We know, trust me. You are only lying to yourself.

Lastly, no one seems to know the value of a qualified coach. But once they get one, they wonder why they waited so long. And they know exactly why they spent years accomplishing very little (if anything) before.

We coaches have coaches. What does that tell you?
 
That is a rough price range if you're competing to be completely honest man. I have a pretty diverse roster of clients at the moment... lifestyle clients of all ages, female competitors, male competitors, athletes, etc. IF non competitive, I have lifestyle plans in the 150-200 range, but a lot goes into prepping a bodybuilder and requires a lot of time and thought. That is because I am someone who won't risk my client stepping on stage looking 8 weeks out. Everything I do is as prompt as possible, and tailored to each person individually... with that being said, the rates need to be a touch higher.
 
Doing cardio and though I'd use this time for a quick back story and some coach talk...

I had ambitions to play pro ball (baseball) and was well on my way until blowing my arm out months before being drafted. This was right before Tommy John surgery was prominent and I never came back the same.

Immediately after the injury, I started a career in real estate and coaching sport specific athletes/gen pop/etc on the side…then found my way into bodybuilding. Competing and then coaching. I can't tell you how valuable going through contest prep is for all of you thinking of coaching, even if you only plan to coach gen pop. You can't learn the things that you go through in that time. I truly respect every single person that goes through a full prep and gets on that stage.

Over the last 2 decades I’ve been lucky to have a successful career in real estate, so coaching throughout that time through now is all about the love of training and nutrition, sharing my knowledge, meeting new people, helping people reach their goals, learning along the entire journey. The money is an added bonus for doing what I love and I’m not sure what I would do without it honestly. That’s why I charge a lot less than most coaches and will never pimp myself for clients. Don't need to and it's fucking annoying when people do.

I’m super precise with my programs, 100% dependent on the individual from nutrition, training, supplementation, medical history, blood work etc. I am intense and pick my clients wisely. I tell this to everyone up front as I'm not for everyone. lol Because money isn't an issue for me, I keep my stable small, pick my clients wisely and devote all of my attention to those people. I compete every year and have a coach who I trust and is my second pair of eyes. He is priceless to me.

So, as I said in a post above. If you are thinking of hiring a coach...do your due diligence. It's a big investment of your time and money. Reach out to a bunch of coaches, talk to them, pick their brain and see if you click. After all it's your body! Never hire a coach without seeing other options. My belief is that an honest coach will turn away a large number of people that apply for fit and a bunch of other reasons.

I just fucking love this lifestyle. Coaching or not, it's all about helping one another, being humble and guiding people in the best way possible. Many of you DM me with questions and I love it.
 
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9 out of 10 inquiries never get back to me after my initial response.

Usually within the first paragraph I put in this sentence: “I am not a drug coach.”
I say that I have experience and that drugs are an option, but hard work comes first.

I’ll let you guess why people don’t get back to me.

Just like when people come up to me here in Cabo, saying they want to lose xx kilos. I tell them “Quit drinking.” That look on their face says it all. Even if I follow up with “Only drink on Saturday.” they melt before my eyes.
 
CoachCabo said:
We coaches have coaches. What does that tell you?
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I had a coach for all of my shows.
I didnt want to think about anything while starving.
As the years went on I learned my body, through coaching and trial and error on my part.
BUT still listened to my coach... Unless he wanted me to take 1mg arimidex ED ,,,,LMAO! :)
@CoachCabo
Man I hope you kickass at this show.... I'm pulling for ya!!! (y)(y)(y)(y)
 
Meetketchup said:
He can certainly DM me for info and strongly suggest he contact other great coaching options above, such as @CoachCabo @Wardamn @Montego, other son here and also people outside the board. It's all about fit not only for the client, but for the coach.
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Well said..I have worked with 2 of those guys,u definitely need to do what they say and trust the process
 
AR-15 said:
Man I wish I could be an online coach for BJJ or Judo or even boxing. I wouldn’t have to rent a building. Wouldn’t have to pay insurance and because of recent legal restrictions I wouldn’t have to leave the house. I guess I picked the wrong sport again. Story of my life. Well that and always being an inch too short. lol
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Rent a spot at a park district and buy some mats. My buddy did that after getting his BB in BJJ. He didn’t have money for a store front gym at first but did this to build his student base
 
Sort of seconding what Señor Ketchup said, if you are going to hire a coach to compete, hire one that is or was a successful competitor.
One of the most annoying things I hear is the old “I don’t compete, but I could if I wanted to.” That is one of the most ridiculous things anyone can say.
Pro’s quit three days out. What kind of superpower lets you see the future or tells you you can overcome adversity you have never experienced? It’s just ignorant.

Like “I wasn’t a SEAL, but I could have been if I wanted to.” Boy, how many times I have heard that…
My SpecWar buddies have said to me “You could have made it man. We know what kind of fucker you are.”
I am quick to correct them. I can’t stand the cold and even in my tenacious, take on anything youth, I know I would have tapped out at the first sign of shivering.
A slight tangent, I know, but this is what I hear every time someone say “I don’t but could if I wanted to…”

If you haven’t been there, you’ll never know.
 
CoachCabo said:
Sort of seconding what Señor Ketchup said, if you are going to hire a coach to compete, hire one that is or was a successful competitor.
One of the most annoying things I hear is the old “I don’t compete, but I could if I wanted to.” That is one of the most ridiculous things anyone can say.
Pro’s quit three days out. What kind of superpower lets you see the future or tells you you can overcome adversity you have never experienced? It’s just ignorant.

Like “I wasn’t a SEAL, but I could have been if I wanted to.” Boy, how many times I have heard that…
My SpecWar buddies have said to me “You could have made it man. We know what kind of fucker you are.”
I am quick to correct them. I can’t stand the cold and even in my tenacious, take on anything youth, I know I would have tapped out at the first sign of shivering.
A slight tangent, I know, but this is what I hear every time someone say “I don’t but could if I wanted to…”

If you haven’t been there, you’ll never know.
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People underestimate themselves so often now days,also stop before they even start..gotta overcome adversity, if it's easy I don't want it..I love the work,and know things come in due time
 
Broserker said:
That is a rough price range if you're competing to be completely honest man. I have a pretty diverse roster of clients at the moment... lifestyle clients of all ages, female competitors, male competitors, athletes, etc. IF non competitive, I have lifestyle plans in the 150-200 range, but a lot goes into prepping a bodybuilder and requires a lot of time and thought. That is because I am someone who won't risk my client stepping on stage looking 8 weeks out. Everything I do is as prompt as possible, and tailored to each person individually... with that being said, the rates need to be a touch higher.
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Do you still compete? Just curious.
 
Decacloud said:
hello , searching online coach in bodybuilding under 1000-1500 $ a year in this price I only know Dave Palumbo and as I searched most of them didn't like his communication and prep .
any suggestions ? please
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Looking into a local coach is never a bad idea either.

Ask around your local bodybuilding community and see who you can find, too.
 

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