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More Gains 4 Less (K4L Reta and GH Log)

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So after my touchdown of Dragon GH from Kits 4 Less I decided to start a new log to give some in depth reviews of their Reta 60mg and their Dragon GH. They have some posts in their forums with people saying they like it but I figure I’ll go a step further.

I do have experience with IL GH in the past so I know what to expect sides wise (if any) and results wise. Also been running an off board brand of Reta for the last 10 or 11 weeks) so I’ll have something to compare K4Ls to.

Currently at 2.5mg of Reta. Trying to decide if I want to go up to 3, stay at 2.5 or go down to 2. Started the dragon GH Saturday night (starting with 2ius but intend to push the dosage as time goes on). Sleep has been great in terms of feeling rested when I get up in the AM. Unfortunately I’ve had a sore throat the last 3 days so I’ve been waking up a ton throughout the night. If it wasn’t for the GH I’d 100% be a zombie right now.


I’m only on a TRT dose of test (150mg EW) so nothing else going on drug wise that could impact the results from the Reta and GH.


I’ll post my stats tomorrow morning but for now a quick progress photo from the last 14 months. I was 240 in the first pic (having just been released to workout after having my hamstring reattached) and 180 in the 2nd. Obviously different lighting and pose but it’s pretty clear how much of a fat shit i was.

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Goal is to see what happens with the GH in the mix, my caloric intake staying at 2300 on days I don’t workout and 25-2600 on the days I do. Once I get a good baseline for the GH and the Reta combo I’ll be increasing my food and trying to add size.

Training split is basically Push/Pull/Off/Legs/Push/Pull/Off

Mondays off and sometimes a shoulder day thrown in before leg day just for some extra volume. The order is kind of odd but I hit legs on Friday since it’s my “weekend” and this way I can recover before starting my week on Sunday.

I got 3 kits of GH and will order another 2-3 depending on my experience with what I have. So I plan on a nice long growth phase without letting myself become a fat slob again.
 
Woke up with a low grade fever. Throat is still kinda fucked up and having an all around bad time.

Push day today.

Incline Leverage Press: 2x190x10 140x8
Dips: 2x35x12 1xBWx12
Pushups: 22, 20, 15
Superset
Incline Cable Fly: 3x10x12
Supinated DB Front Raise: 3x10x12
Lateral Raise: 3x30x20
Tricep Rope Pushdown: 3x38x12
DB Kickback: 3x15x12
Cable Crunch: 3x55x20
Side Crunch: 3x33x12
Knee Raise: 3x20


Came home to a nice big bowl of PB Cookie Cream of Rice and a shake. Then 7oz of top sirloin and 400g of basmati rice.

Just finished a 30 minute ride on my peloton. Nothing too crazy HR stayed around 120 the entire ride.

Might do another 30 before bed but it felt good to get some blood flowing.

Thank god for the GH cuz my sleep was shit last night and I know id 100% feel even worse had the little sleep I got not been super refreshing.
 
Sleep sucked last night. Fever broke around 3am so I woke up drenched in sweat.

Not sure if I’m just going to bed too early been falling asleep around 830 and waking up at midnight then getting lots of broken up sleep til 4 before I’m wide awake…I feel well rested at least but I’m going to wait till 10 to pin my GH and go to bed.


Scale weight is 178 this morning. Gut motility seems to have sped up.

Was pull day today. Sticking to a similar program I was doing the last few months but shifted rest periods, tempos and total sets. 90 second rest for compounds, 60 seconds for isolation and abs. Drop set is notated with a “>”

Wide Grip Pulldown: 143x12 143x10 > 121x8
DB Row: 110x8, 110x 10, 75x12
Cable Shoulder Extensions: 49x12, 2x55x12
Yates Row: 3x135x12
Smith Machine Upright Row (close grip) superset with Plate Overhead raise: 3x102x12 & 3x2x15
Preacher Curl Machine: 3x60x12
Hammer Curls: 3x27.5x12
Hanging Leg Raise: 3x15
Pallof Press: 3x10x12


Also hit an hour long ride on my bike. Took some “endurance class” on the peloton app it has. Stayed in between zone 2 and 3. Had some crazy quad vascularity going on.

Diet was “on point”. MFP automatically adds carbs and protein based on my expended calories from my lifting app and peloton app. I don’t plan on eating to the exact amount they indicate but definitely gives me an idea of how much I’ve done for the day and the wiggle room I have. I do find that when MFP shows a consistent 1k deficit I tend to lean out very quickly (2lbs a week) so it works well enough for me for now.

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Back to work tomorrow after taking the last two days off. Then I’ll be off Friday and Saturday. So that means legs and another push day.

I felt a bit bloated today but that’s most likely from being sick. Could possibly be the GH but we’ll see over the next few days as I feel better.
 
weight: 178.8

No lifting today. Was a planned off day. Slept better last night, only woke up twice and both times to pee before knocking back out. Was wide awake about 630.

Did a 30 minute ride on the bike. Took some “beginner endurance” class. Seemed a lot harder than a beginner class but then again I usually run so it’s a new modality. Really gets my VMOs pumped lol.

Wound up keeping calories pretty low until dinner. Then had a biggish meal. 10oz top sirloin and 300g jasmine rice.

Tomorrow is shot day. I’m still waffling between going to 3 or staying at 2.5 for the Reta. I’m 5 days into the GH and I’m noticing I seem to be taking some pretty monstrous dumps lol. Like Stan when he took the record shit on South Park lol. Not sure if it’s just because I’m close to shot day and the Reta half life is here or if it’s the HGH speeding up motility. Buddy said he is eating a ton and shitting a ton so maybe it’s a combo of both? Didn’t realize how much I had siting inside me though because I never look bloated or anything but if it means things are moving along better than I’ll take it.

Might add a CGM to the mix since I’m going to be increasing my carb intake but not sure if I wanna drop $50 for one.

Legs tomorrow. Anyone wanna drop some of their favorite exercises/intensity boosters to give me some ideas? I already have my leg day planned out but I’m always thinking of new ways to hit my hamstrings and quads. My new favorite is smith machine RDLs. Really lets me get a good stretch and feel the contraction through my hamstrings and glutes more.IMG_1111.jpeg
 
Morning weight: 180

Was really puffy this morning. Actually woke up with my hands hurting. Just kind of a swollen tight feeling but they didn’t look swollen. Obliques are definitely squishy/jiggly though. Could be the GH or could be that I bumped my HCG dosages to 750 IUs yesterday alongside my test shot instead of my normal 500 (was going to try 750 2x weekly instead of 500 3x weekly)


Legs and abs today. Decided to break leg training up into 2 days with one focusing on quads and the other on hamstrings.

Kneeling leg curl: 3x20x12
Belt Squat: 3x208x12
Leg Press (close stance, toes out): 3x310x20
Single Leg Extensions: 3x40x15
Prone Machine Curls: 3x70x12
Hip Abduction: 3x100x15
Hip Adduction: 3x80x15
Calf Raise Machine: 3x40x12
Seated Calf Raise: 3x110x12
Ab Coaster: 3x80x20
Side Cable Crunch: 3x35x12

Had an insane pump. Legs looked like sausages 🤣.

Skipped the bike cuz I don’t think I could handle the extra burn.

Calories were a little short today but it is what it is.

I did open up the Reta from kits today. 60mg. Took 3mg. Didn’t feel anything different from 2.5. Not sure if I’ll notice but but if I remain sides free I’ll probably see if I can push to 4mg which is supposedly the glycogen saturation point.


If the GH works as synergistically with the Reta as it is for my buddy (and from what a few members have said) then I maybe not much of an appetite suppression going further. But I’m excited to see what happens
 
180 again today.

Hit a wall during dinner. Food just absolutely stopped looking good and I was flat out nauseous. The 3mg Reta is definitely legit from what I can tell.

Pissed my brains out all day.

Push day today. Chest delts and triceps.

Leverage Incline press: 2x200x12, 150x12
Dumbbell Cross Body Raise: 3x27.5x12
Dips: BWx20
Machine Fly: 3x110x12
Shoulder Press (Neutral): 3x40x15
Lateral: 30x20, 27.5x25 25x30 (45 second rest between sets)
Tricep Rope Pushdowns: 3x44x12
Overhead Rope Extensions: 2x38x12 25x12
Rope Crunches: 3x80x12
Cable Bell Crunch: 3x50x15

Feeling a little off today. Not sure if it’s the Reta or what.

Pull day tomorrow and work. We will see what this week brings.
 
179 when I woke up. Bloating was down and I looked like my midsection was tightening up a bit.

Pull day. I tried some new exercises for back but not really happy with them so I’ll be tweaking the routine as time goes on.

Lat Pulldown Mag Grip: 2x-153x12, 131x12
Cable Row Mag Grip: 2x121x10
Shoulder Extensions: 3x55x12
Leverage Chest Supported Row: 2x126x8
Smith Machine Shrug: 3x152x12
Superset Plate OH Raise: 3x25x15
Seated Bent Over Rear Delt Fly: 3x15x30
Preacher Curl Machine: 3x60x12
DB Hammer Curl: 3x30x12
Hanging Leg Raise: 3x20
Pallof Pres: 3x17.5x12

Calories about where I wanted. 2600 for the day. Might go a little higher with some protein before bed depending on how I’m feeling.

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